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06-22-2012, 10:32 PM
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I for one was never that impressed with Z. So even if all this does is clear a spot for Despres, I'm fine with it.

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06-22-2012, 10:32 PM
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Pretty clear cap dump. We have too many young guys ready to step in & no one was going to move on Martin.

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06-22-2012, 10:34 PM
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Ruopp knows how to drop the gloves....

Ruopp is #2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3c0mre1Rj4

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06-22-2012, 10:34 PM
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k, the re-uniting theme continues.

Jordan Staal reunites with Eric Staal in Carolina
Derrick Pouliout reunites with Joe Morrow in the Pittsburgh System
Matta with Harrington (I think).
Michalek and Phoenix re-united

Next move? Martin re-united w/ New Jersey for Parise's rights, so Parise can sign and re-unite with Crosby?

And......Now, to find some past connection with Suter and Pittsburgh.


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06-22-2012, 10:35 PM
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I would have preferred to dump Martin, but you have to find a taker. Martin might not be tradeable until he improves his own value with stronger play, maybe mid-season. Michalek has a more favorable cap hit, had a better season (arguably), and Phoenix is familiar with him. It was an easier salary to dump.

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Martin seemed pretty motivated to redeem himself as well. I said that whatever team that he ends up on will consider him to be a bargain and be very happy with him next year. That team might be the Pens.

On the other hand would not be surprised to see Martin gone as well. But my God, what a roll of the dice completely changing a team fundimentally like that.

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06-22-2012, 10:35 PM
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This team just got so much younger in the past 6 hours.

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Remember Sid signs an extension that also eats into the cap.
Roughly the difference from Lovejoy to Despres, if the rumors are correct.

Ruopp is definitely sandpaper and nails...this board should love him, though he's obviously nothing more than a role player. Cheverie is nothing more than a replacement for Modig in the system. The third has...well...third round value.

Harsh reality on Michalek's value here.

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06-22-2012, 10:36 PM
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At least we drafted filip fors....o wait

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i firmly believe there is still a chance martin gets dumped... you might take back bad salary (overpriced winger) the other way or you may have to give a good asset along with him but I wouldn't be shocked. Just because Z moved doesn't mean Martin can't be. I for one like the moves today because it allows the pens to be more flexible to fill needs.

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Who on earth convinced you Michalek was a physical defenseman?!? That has never been his calling card. Never.
He may not be a hitter but he's certainly physical in the regard that he's supposed to be strong on the puck carrier and in front of/behind the net. He didn't do that at all this year.

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NJ has financial concerns, so Parise will not sign there. He wants to win and have contract stability. I think the two teams he would like to play for are Pens and Detroit as they meet his talent.
I think the Kings are in play as well.

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06-22-2012, 10:38 PM
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Pretty clear cap dump. We have too many young guys ready to step in & no one was going to move on Martin.
That's it in a nutshell, i agree. We need cap space for free agency and roster spots for defenseman in the A who are NHL-ready.

I love Z's game, but if it gets us a spot for Despres and a Parise signing, he won't be missed for a SECOND.

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06-22-2012, 10:39 PM
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This is pathetically awful for what has been the best D-man defensively on our team for both our last playoffs.

I almost don't have words for how much I hate this.

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Z was just average in my book and since we got him in FA i don't care. we can sign a gill or something in free agency if need be. no big loss here, but yeah i would prefer dumping martin. i am starting to think we are stuck with martin

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06-22-2012, 10:42 PM
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Oh man, will my stomach turn if I read the headlines "Parise re-signs with New Jersey" tomorrow, or before July 1.

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06-22-2012, 10:42 PM
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Next move? Martin re-united w/ New Jersey for Parise's rights, so Parise can sign and re-unite with Crosby?

And......Now, to find some past connection with Suter and Pittsburgh.
Shero was assistant gm in Nashville when they drafted Suter. BOOM

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06-22-2012, 10:43 PM
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I'm really disappointed Z was traded(especially for that return ugh) He took the place as my favorite Pen after Gonchar left.

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The return is horrible...

I would have rather have a 2nd and a 3rd than those scraps....

But remeber Visnovsky only netted a 2nd rounder for the Ducks... In addition he is a UFA....

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He may not be a hitter but he's certainly physical in the regard that he's supposed to be strong on the puck carrier and in front of/behind the net. He didn't do that at all this year.
Again, where did you get that? His entire career, Michalek was always much more likely to try and block a shot than knock a guy on his ass when he was in front of the net. He has the size that he shouldn't be manhandled one-on-one in thecrease, but that hardly classifies him as a "physical" defenseman.

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06-22-2012, 10:45 PM
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Oh god, July 1 (or in my case, July 2 is going to be very intersting). I think **** is going to get real.

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Ruopp looks like a goon defenseman. Probably hoping for too much when I say maybe the Pens saw a little Engelland in him?

And for what it's worth Cheverie must've grown up with Sid. Same birth year and place, both played midget hockey for Dartmouth/Nova Scotia.

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That's it in a nutshell, i agree. We need cap space for free agency and roster spots for defenseman in the A who are NHL-ready.

I love Z's game, but if it gets us a spot for Despres and a Parise signing, he won't be missed for a SECOND.
Agreed.

I'd rather move Martin than Michalek, obviously, but Michalek was almost just as bad as Martin was this past season...he just escaped much of the criticism because his contract didn't remind people quite so much of a gigantic white sea-bound bird.

This saves us from losing one of the kids to waivers and likely gets Despres into the line-up, while making Parise a very real possibility.

Now if we fail to sign Parise things become less awesome...but if we can get him then **** Zbynek and hello Zach and Simon.

Also it should be worth noting that trading Michalek doesn't count trading Martin out of the equation...it just means that Phoenix was willing to deal now, before free agency begins. My expectation for dealing Martin is a mid/late July deal that involves a 2013 2nd rounder coming back our way. I don't think there were many people here expecting him to be moved for a pick in this draft, and any deal involving Martin was almost guaranteed to be strictly for futures.


I can't state enough how weird it is that we're going to have 9 draft picks...7 of which are set to take place before our first pick in the 2008 Draft.


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This is pathetically awful for what has been the best D-man defensively on our team for both our last playoffs.

I almost don't have words for how much I hate this.
Z was just as horrible as Martin in the last playoffs.

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