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06-23-2012, 12:42 PM
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Would things be different if the Leafs were owned by a single owner?

Do you think the Leafs would have been more successful if they're weren't run by faceless owners or does it make no difference at all to you?

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06-23-2012, 12:44 PM
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Yes, because that owner would put everything aside, lace them up, and hit the ice himself.

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Done that already.

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I have two words for you:

Harold Ballard

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I think my brain is bruised from all the face palms I have done since reading a few threads this morning.

Thanks guys.

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06-23-2012, 01:00 PM
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A Mark Cuban type thats a fan of the team and not business only!

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06-23-2012, 01:01 PM
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A single owner is no less 'only in it for the money' than a corporation is.

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06-23-2012, 01:03 PM
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A Mark Cuban type thats a fan of the team and not business only!
Explain how the Leafs current ownership is impeding the Leafs in a way that such a single owner would not.

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06-23-2012, 02:10 PM
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If the Owner had passion for the game and wanted to win, then yeah it would be awesome. Every team MLSE had was crap. Speaks for itself.

Amazing fans in Toronto though.

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06-23-2012, 02:12 PM
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Someone is too young to know about Harrold Ballard.

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06-23-2012, 02:13 PM
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Someone is too young to know about Harrold Ballard.
Yeah, it could go either way.

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There aren't a ton of Canadians that could own the team by themselves if you include all of MLSE in the purchase.
Especially if you want them to do it without incurring major debt, which could effect business decisions.

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Yeah, it could go either way.
Stavro owned most of the team and he was in the middle ground for a owner.
Certainly much better than Ballard but he cared more about his race horses than he did about the Leafs. He wasn't always willing to spend money(Gretzky). And bad business decisions outside of hockey put the hockey team in some trouble.(knob hill farms)

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Burke has full control over Leafs moves. Ownership is letting him spend to the cap and hand out contracts to staff like candy. What more could we ask for?

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06-23-2012, 02:37 PM
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When Harold Ballard wasn't too busy in jail for defrauding investors in MLG stock, he did approve some great deals such as allowing Punch Imlach to trade Lanny Macdonald to Colorado with Joel Quenville for Wilf Paiement and Pat Hickey. He also found time to hire and fire a coach about every other year and build a team that Hall of Fame legend Harry Nielson could not succeed with, managing to insult the man in the process.

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When Harold Ballard wasn't too busy in jail for defrauding investors in MLG stock, he did approve some great deals such as allowing Punch Imlach to trade Lanny Macdonald to Colorado with Joel Quenville for Wilf Paiement and Pat Hickey. He also found time to hire and fire a coach about every other year and build a team that Hall of Fame legend Harry Nielson could not succeed with, managing to insult the man in the process.
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06-23-2012, 03:06 PM
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this is the DUMBEST argument I swear. what would possibly be different right now in the cap era.

we spend to the cap and we have a manager in Brian Burke who is insanely competitive and wants to win very very badly.

tell me what would be different right now I want to hear it.

If we lose it's on the players, the coach, and the GM. that's it!!!

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this is the DUMBEST argument I swear. what would possibly be different right now in the cap era.

we spend to the cap and we have a manager in Brian Burke who is insanely competitive and wants to win very very badly.

tell me what would be different right now I want to hear it.

If we lose it's on the players, the coach, and the GM. that's it!!!
Exactly.

I suspect that the "blame the ownership" meme in Toronto started in the Ballard days when there was some validity to it and just stuck around afterwards with people looking for (or making up) ways in which ownership was to blame.

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this is the DUMBEST argument I swear. what would possibly be different right now in the cap era.

we spend to the cap and we have a manager in Brian Burke who is insanely competitive and wants to win very very badly.

tell me what would be different right now I want to hear it.

If we lose it's on the players, the coach, and the GM. that's it!!!
Your right but there are other things owners can control..
If we had a different owner, they might hold the gm to a tighter leash.. Failure isn't an option.
Selecting the right management staff and knowing when to fire them.
But I knw what you mean. There's only so much that can be done

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06-23-2012, 03:43 PM
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Stavro owned most of the team and he was in the middle ground for a owner.
Certainly much better than Ballard but he cared more about his race horses than he did about the Leafs. He wasn't always willing to spend money(Gretzky). And bad business decisions outside of hockey put the hockey team in some trouble.(knob hill farms)
Yeah, ownership dropped the ball big time by not signing Gretzky that summer.
I think Burke can do a good job but its gonna take longer than w/e he thought but fans won't accept it.

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