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Collberg kinda reminds me of Kessel
Definitely some similarities there, especially that quick precise release.

Absolute steal at this position. Love the pick.

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Really? Link?
In one of the post draft scrums, TT was asked if there was talk of bringing Collberg to north America, and TT said hed let Collberg celebrate being drafted for now, but that they were going to talk.

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I do know Collberg was not pleased with his how he was handled last year, and I do know Timmins is going to try and get him to come to the CHL. We will see.
That's incorrect. When asked about the 0 points, Collby said that he had little ice time and it's a little sad but he hopes he can have a strong season. Timmins in turn said that CHL is an option but it's up to him what he wants. Basically he's staying with Frolunda which is a good org.

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That's incorrect. When asked about the 0 points, Collby said that he had little ice time and it's a little sad but he hopes he can have a strong season. Timmins in turn said that CHL is an option but it's up to him what he wants. Basically he's staying with Frolunda which is a good org.
Well I'm not at my computer, so I'm not going to go digging to find it, but I definitely got the impression that TT thought he would better develop here and that he would talk to Collberg about it, but yes the decision would be Collbergs ultimately. Bottom line is I don't think the CHL is completely out of the question since Collberg wasn't thrilled with how he was handled last year, even stating he would have preferred to have been moved down.

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What if.....Sarnia picks him tomorrow? Could it be enough to change his mind? Problem is that Sarnia has the 36th pick, though teams might not want to pick Collberg knowing that he's suppose to not be coming....But if Sarnia picks him, would the possibility of playing with Gally enough to change his mind....

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What if.....Sarnia picks him tomorrow? Could it be enough to change his mind? Problem is that Sarnia has the 36th pick, though teams might not want to pick Collberg knowing that he's suppose to not be coming....But if Sarnia picks him, would the possibility of playing with Gally enough to change his mind....
I'd **** a brick with excitement.

Imagine Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Collberg in 2-3 years.

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What if.....Sarnia picks him tomorrow? Could it be enough to change his mind? Problem is that Sarnia has the 36th pick, though teams might not want to pick Collberg knowing that he's suppose to not be coming....But if Sarnia picks him, would the possibility of playing with Gally enough to change his mind....
i think that it MAYBE helps him shift to the CHL if he were to be drafted by sarnia but i doubt it, swedes are PROUD countrymen

he said he was signed for 1 more year and that it was almost a certainty he will be going back to sweden

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Well I'm not at my computer, so I'm not going to go digging to find it, but I definitely got the impression that TT thought he would better develop here and that he would talk to Collberg about it, but yes the decision would be Collbergs ultimately. Bottom line is I don't think the CHL is completely out of the question since Collberg wasn't thrilled with how he was handled last year, even stating he would have preferred to have been moved down.
Wouldn't it be sweet to have him play in Sarnia,with Galchenyuk and possibly Tim Bozon.

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I do know Collberg was not pleased with his how he was handled last year, and I do know Timmins is going to try and get him to come to the CHL. We will see.
I don't think he's going anywhere. He's under contract for one more year.

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What if.....Sarnia picks him tomorrow? Could it be enough to change his mind? Problem is that Sarnia has the 36th pick, though teams might not want to pick Collberg knowing that he's suppose to not be coming....But if Sarnia picks him, would the possibility of playing with Gally enough to change his mind....
That would be amazing. And we do know through twitter the two are pals...

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Problem with my theory is that right now, while we all know it is going to happen, there are no indications that Gally will indeed play in Sarnia. With his competitive nature, Alex will tell everybody that he's making the Habs next year. Would Collberg make a move and then end up....not playing with him? Like it was said before, he has a contract and will honor it unless he knows somehwo that he's not going to be used that much and so on .....Anyway, will still be fun to follow that draft tomorrow to see if him and Nystrom will be picked. But it shouldn't be expected....I guess that if it does, it will be towards the end of the 2nd round when it's actually more about guesses than the promise to show.

Still that importn draft will also be fun to see if some of our prospects will get some help from those imports in the upcoming year.

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I do know Collberg was not pleased with his how he was handled last year, and I do know Timmins is going to try and get him to come to the CHL. We will see.
I'd like to know how you know that piece of info. I mean, as a really green rookie, there's nothing Collberg could have hated to see happening...I mean, he did play all those games without having a single point. If anything, he'd be really fine with the treatement he had.

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Tiny forward Sergey Tolchinskiy could be the Sting pick as he is another Larionov client. Mega Sting fan @rossyyoungblood on twitter is hoping for it.

But don't kid yourself, CHL teams don't just pick guys out of the blue in the import draft. If the miracle happens and Sarnia drafts and convinces Collberg to go there, it will be in part because Timmins and Bergevin sold Jacques Beaulieu on it (especially considering the links between us and him) and the Habs got word from Collberg he would be open to coming over.

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That's incorrect. When asked about the 0 points, Collby said that he had little ice time and it's a little sad but he hopes he can have a strong season. Timmins in turn said that CHL is an option but it's up to him what he wants. Basically he's staying with Frolunda which is a good org.
In a pre-draft Interview Collberg said that at some point in the season he hoped to back in junior instead of playing pro and he was also waiting for international competition to have icetime. I don't have the link and won't look for it but it's in this thread.

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I'd like to know how you know that piece of info. I mean, as a really green rookie, there's nothing Collberg could have hated to see happening...I mean, he did play all those games without having a single point. If anything, he'd be really fine with the treatement he had.
http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console

In the "Draft Day:Sebastian Collberg" video, Collberg reiterates over and over that it was a tough year for him last year and mentions how he requested to Frolunda to play for the juniors after games as he was frustrated with not getting opportunity with the puck, and said how he spent the year just looking forward to playing with the national team.

Obviously he's trying to stay positive, but reading between the lines it's fairly obvious he doesn't think he was ready for the SEL.

Not saying it's lock he leaves at all, just think that with convincing and opportunity he could consider coming over to play junior here...

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Well I'm not at my computer, so I'm not going to go digging to find it, but I definitely got the impression that TT thought he would better develop here and that he would talk to Collberg about it,
http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/video...d=66&id=182764

4:50 mark.

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If he wants to come over early great, but I'm not too worried. I trust Frolunda's player development and the SEL in general, it's not like Pribyl where development is down, he's playing lesser competition, and close to KHL scouts who may try to recruit him. If anything the Swedish do the best job developing players in Europe, and I say this as more of an SM-liiga fan.

Of course the CHL is a much better option than another year as a 4th liner, but Frolunda is losing a lot of talent and it's a good opportunity to step up. If he's not getting play time, would it be possible for him to be bought out at a later stage during the season the way Samuelsson was last year?

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http://video.canadiens.nhl.com/videocenter/console

In the "Draft Day:Sebastian Collberg" video, Collberg reiterates over and over that it was a tough year for him last year and mentions how he requested to Frolunda to play for the juniors after games as he was frustrated with not getting opportunity with the puck, and said how he spent the year just looking forward to playing with the national team.

Obviously he's trying to stay positive, but reading between the lines it's fairly obvious he doesn't think he was ready for the SEL.

Not saying it's lock he leaves at all, just think that with convincing and opportunity he could consider coming over to play junior here...
That's not quite it, imo. Look at the lineup on that pro squad. Tonnes of very productive veterans. Imagine we brought in Gally, and the largest role he saw all year was similar to Ryan White of the past couple of years...What's the first thing Gally might comment on in interviews? When I read between the lines, he wanted to play more (with the puck, ideally), and in more offensive situations/opportunities, no matter which level it was.

edit: And I think I mentioned earlier in the thread that higher spots in the depth chart have opened up with a couple of guys heading to the KHL and another heading to an AHL/NHL camp. Plus, who knows how long P.J. Axelsson will keep playing, lol. In any event, spots are opening up for him in Frolunda, so I don't expect him to come over right away.


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Why are everyone so desperate to try and get Collberg to the CHL?

The only time that move has actually worked out for a Swedish player so far was with Landeskog and he was in a completely different situation.

Collberg will get top-9 ice time in the third best hockey league in the world next year, why should he leave for a junior league?

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Awesome, thanks.

So yea, definitely sounds like Timmins will at least present it to Collberg as an option...

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Why are everyone so desperate to try and get Collberg to the CHL?

The only time that move has actually worked out for a Swedish player so far was with Landeskog and he was in a completely different situation.

Collberg will get top-9 ice time in the third best hockey league in the world next year, why should he leave for a junior league?
I think he should stay in the SEL too but I imagine it's because he only got 6 min of icetime and 0pts in 40+ games.

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Why are everyone so desperate to try and get Collberg to the CHL?

The only time that move has actually worked out for a Swedish player so far was with Landeskog and he was in a completely different situation.

Collberg will get top-9 ice time in the third best hockey league in the world next year, why should he leave for a junior league?
90% of it seems to be because of the dream of having Galchenyuk centering Collberg in Sarnia and lighting it up together.

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If he's not getting play time, would it be possible for him to be bought out at a later stage during the season the way Samuelsson was last year?
Yes. Although I believe Samuelsson did not have import status. But Europeans suddenly joining CHL teams in-season happens, Maxim Kitsyn did it in 2010-11.

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90% of it seems to be because of the dream of having Galchenyuk centering Collberg in Sarnia and lighting it up together.
Well, you know what... getting the inside track on being a future wing man for the Habs' top line of the future might be tempting, indeed. He'd get a whole lot of what he has been missing in Sarnia, that's for sure.

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Well, you know what... getting the inside track on being a future wing man for the Habs' top line of the future might be tempting, indeed. He'd get a whole lot of what he has been missing in Sarnia, that's for sure.
And thus how this little theory has come to be.

We shall see tomorrow.

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