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06-24-2012, 07:02 PM
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Really ? This doesn't surprise me a bit. They always manage to nab the talented euros falling in the draft. Always.
That's what I meant, actually. Can't believe they managed to do it again somehow.

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06-25-2012, 10:40 AM
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Being born in December, will he be able to play in Hamilton after only one more season in the junior, just like Beaulieu?

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I can't wait to see Thrower throw his opponents around.

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he will end up being a 6'0-215 pound tank.

Honestly to address toughness he was our perfect pick especially at 51, was sure he'd be gone in the late first.
215 might be stretching it, don't you think, being that he is listed at 179?

Do these guys hit the weight room much? Many don't seem strong enough in the upper body especially.

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215 might be stretching it, don't you think?

Do these guys hit the weight room much? Many don't seem strong enough in the upper body especially.
More important to develop lower body/legs strength first ... upper body after

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215 might be stretching it, don't you think, being that he is listed at 179?
190 I think. 215's certainly not out of the question for a 6'0 player. He can be very agile and quick at that weight, and be able to hit like a truck.

Weight goes on very easily for kids their age.

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Being born in December, will he be able to play in Hamilton after only one more season in the junior, just like Beaulieu?
Yes.

He and Dietz will be eligible to play in the AHL in 2013-14. If Bennett turns pro (probably a likely possibility) and we bring Nygren over (need to sign him by June 1 2013), it will be 4 more rookie D's just like this year in the Hammer.

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Being born in December, will he be able to play in Hamilton after only one more season in the junior, just like Beaulieu?
yes, he should turn pro with his teammate Dietz next summer.

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215 might be stretching it, don't you think, being that he is listed at 179?

Do these guys hit the weight room much? Many don't seem strong enough in the upper body especially.
I've seen him listed around 190-195 pounds. And anyway, just look at him, he got a pretty big frame to put weight on, I wouldn't be surprised, if he's serious, to see him get to 210-215 rather easily. I got the same kind of frame, but I'm 5'10, and when I was seriously training, I got to 220 pounds (I was 200) in about 4 months.

This guy will be a tank.


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06-25-2012, 01:14 PM
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But I don't want to see him going after guys 30 pounds bigger too often. Taking on Wilson was risky.
He's already 5'11.5 200lbs not necessarily a lightweight

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06-25-2012, 01:19 PM
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He's already 5'11.5 200lbs not necessarily a lightweight
He'll probably end up around 6'1" 210lbs or so, or at worst Ryan White size. I don't think anyone is looking at him as heavyweight, but rather a willing middleweight like Ryan White but while being a solid two way dman. Schultz and Tinordi are the potential big boys....

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I've seen him listed around 190-195 pounds. And anyway, just look at him, he got a pretty big frame to put weight on, I wouldn't be surprised, if he's serious, to see him get to 210-215 rather easily. I got the same kind of frame, but I'm 5'10, and when I was seriously training, I got to 220 pounds (I was 200) in about 4 months.

This guy will be a tank.
Not to turn this into a fitness thread, but there's no way you put 20lbs of muscle on in 4 months--especially if you were already heavy for your height.

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Not to turn this into a fitness thread, but there's no way you put 20lbs of muscle on in 4 months--especially if you were already heavy for your height.
Have to agree, I'm 5'11" 175lbs and I'm in pretty damn good shape and kinda jacked even myself. I can't even imagine 45lbs more on my frame.

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215 might be stretching it, don't you think, being that he is listed at 179?

Do these guys hit the weight room much? Many don't seem strong enough in the upper body especially.
Players hit the gym a lot, but few work out the upper body. Much work on the upper body is a waste, and actually negates players' speed and mobility. The lower body is important, obviously for skating, but also bodychecking, boardwork, protecting the puck and battling for position all come from leg strength. Fighting, too, will come more from core strength than upper body.

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yes, he should turn pro with his teammate Dietz next summer.
Yeah this is great. I hope Hamilton hires a character veteran D with NHL experience to play with all these young guys.

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I went through his fight card on hockeyfights. With the exception of the fight vs. Kramer, he did pretty good. He will need to learn to pick his spots better. If he's going to go after the heavyweights, he better learn to not get punched.
FWIW, Kramer is considered the WHL's top fighter. Big ups to Thrower for even trying to fight him that night.

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Dalton is Kevin Bieksa 2.0. He was relied upon to provide scoring from the backend and to replace Stefan Elliott (2011 WHL d-man of the year with 31 goals and 81 points in 10/11) on the 1st pairing alongside Duncan Siemens.
I'm still not sold on the Bieksa comparison, just because of the size difference.

I've called him a Bieksa/Letang hybrid, personally.

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06-25-2012, 02:38 PM
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Highlight video of his season that I made for the Blades website:

http://www.saskatoonblades.com/video...940ea78b9c76af

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Already said...but I have to say I agree 100% with the Wisniewski comparison.

Carbon copy look in that highlight video.

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Highlight video of his season that I made for the Blades website:

http://www.saskatoonblades.com/video...940ea78b9c76af
Kinda OT, but do you know if Josh Nicholls got any invites to NHL camps? Kinda surprised Leafs didn't sign him. Those dangles he did at 0:17 of his vid were pretty sweet. Seems slow though.

I agree, the Wiz comparison seems close but I think Wiz has a bit more in terms of offense.

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215 might be stretching it, don't you think, being that he is listed at 179?

Do these guys hit the weight room much? Many don't seem strong enough in the upper body especially.
According to the NHL site, he is listed as 5'11", 200lbs, which I'll assume are his measurements from the combine.

http://www.nhl.com/ice/draftsearch.h...r=2012&round=2

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So Thrower is listed by NHL.com at:

5"11" 200lbs with stats of 18g, 54pts 103PIM in 66gms.

While Dumba is listed as :

6', 184lbs with 20gs, 57pts, 67 PIM in 69gms.


Is skating that much of a difference between the two???

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Players hit the gym a lot, but few work out the upper body. Much work on the upper body is a waste, and actually negates players' speed and mobility. The lower body is important, obviously for skating, but also bodychecking, boardwork, protecting the puck and battling for position all come from leg strength. Fighting, too, will come more from core strength than upper body.
I agree that legs and core strength are the most important physical assets for a hockey player. Don't underestimate the importance of upper body strength as this was always my advantage when I played. I found that I was much stronger on my stick than the other players and was able to power through their sticks in tight areas which was a huge advantage along the boards and in front of the net where I could bang in rebounds. When you are static in front of the net it very much becomes a battle of upper body strength with both players essential doing a vertical bench press to move each other.

Kovalev was a beast with a powerful upper body who often used his arms and shoulders to help navigate through traffic.

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Oh god, the armchair PT's are out in force squawking about "core strength," again.

You do realize that upper body is more than "bi's n tri's" right?


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Oh god, the armchair PT's are out in force squawking about "core strength," again.

You do realize that upper body is more than "bi's n tri's" right?

In most sports, Core and Leg Strength is most important

strong chest + back is essential in framework though

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