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09-27-2012, 03:46 PM
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Five stages of lockout grief - Which ones did you experience?

Though a link from a link in habsworld.com, I found the following article:

The Five Stages Of Lockout Grief

http://thehockeywriters.com/shj/the-...lockout-grief/

These stages have been identified as:

1) Denial ,

2) Anger ,

3) Bargaining ,

4) Depression &

5) Acceptance .



I never did go through the anger, bargaining and depression stages. I went straight from a sort of denial (they can't be so stupid as to do this again) to an acceptance (ah... what the heck... the sun'll still rise again tomorrow and God is still good).


It was interesting but one of the comments in the 'acceptance' paragraph "I can watch the KHL or AHL". I don't expect to watch the KHL but I am going to watch Bulldog games online through this site:

http://ahl.neulion.com/ahl/

Looking forward to seeing the new crop of kids making the next big step.

So, how about you? Did you go through any or all of these stages?

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Still in denial, though am angered and at same time am experiencing Acceptance at the moment, which is more or less "i don't give a ****"

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I probably experienced these 5 stages in 2004 but this time around I skipped over all 5 and went straight to #6..

6) I really don't give a **** .

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I've experienced them all except Acceptance. The depression is gone (no, it's not actual depression over the lockout, but I'm not happy about it) and I'm back to bargaining.

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I went right to #5 as soon as the PA hired Donald Fehr around 2 years ago and as soon as the NBA got basically a 50-50 split last November, making it clear the NHL owners would want the exact same thing.

I knew this was going to happen, so why get angry or depressed over it?

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09-27-2012, 04:32 PM
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I'm strangely not giving two ****s about it. Maybe because it's my end of semester lol.

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I probably experienced these 5 stages in 2004 but this time around I skipped over all 5 and went straight to #6..

6) I really don't give a **** .
Pretty much this

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Pretty much this
I second that.

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Pretty much this
same here

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I'm strangely not giving two ****s about it. Maybe because it's my end of semester lol.
This.

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I didn't do any of that, but I guess I'm somewhere at #5.

NHL lockout? "okay" + **** Bettman.

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I probably experienced these 5 stages in 2004 but this time around I skipped over all 5 and went straight to #6..

6) I really don't give a **** .
Me too, with a lot of cynism.

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I have to say it was tough for the first pre season games, it even sucks tonight, we'd probably have a game on tv.

Thank god for the NFL

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I skipped right to the "oh well, life goes on," stage. I love my hockey but it doesn't run my life.

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I don't care. It feels like the season ended just a few weeks ago anyway. If in November there's still no agreement I might start to get angry.

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I don't care much either. At least, not yet.

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I went right to Acceptance. It is what it is. There's nothing I can do about it, so there's no need to get worked up over it. Plus I also get to watch more junior hockey

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09-28-2012, 12:03 PM
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Stage 2, Anger, just hit me right now. Before this moment it was denial but I didn't even know it.

I think most of these people who think they are in "acceptance" are really in "denial". I was.

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09-29-2012, 02:41 AM
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I've accepted it. But they players are still greedy and Bettman's still a dworf.

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1. Discontentment
2. Acceptance
3. Carelessness
4. Boredom
5. Carelessness

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09-29-2012, 08:09 AM
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The season hasn't been completely lost yet so you can't really speak of grief. But ultimately if it is, it's not that big of a deal.

Call me nostalgic, and that's probably what this is but hockey has just gotten worse and worse ever since I started watching back in 92.

Here's a quick list of things that were better back then :

-UFA age at 31 : teams kept their young stars forever. Draft was a lot more meaningful.
-Because of UFA age at 31. if you acquired a 24 year old star player that meant years of that player, more than whatever was left on his contract. So when trades happened they were automatically more meaningful and exciting.
-Trade deadlines were more exciting. Possibly as a result of UFA age at 31. But actually, it's probably just because parity has made it so teams don't want to sell much anymore.
-Tons of offense : fourteen 50 goal scorers in 92-93 !
-Lemieux + Gretzky at the same time!
-So many great players : Roy, Hasek, Brodeur, Lafontaine, Bure, Selanne, Yzerman, Sakic, Bourque, Coffey, Neely, Sundin, Stevens, Niedermayer, Gilmour, McInnis, Zubov, Lidstrom, Jagr, Robitaille, Mogilny, Turgeon, Hull, Chelios, Roenick, etc.
-Eight canadian teams and a lot fewer POS markets no one cares about like Nashville, Carolina, Florida, Phoenix.
-24 teams : talent concentration galore = better games and better rivalries.
-Bowman was still coaching.
-Lots of powerhouse teams made the playoffs something to behold as it got down to the big dogs.
-Habs-nords rivalry
-1 ref on the ice, and he couldn't do ****. Refs were as bad back then as today but they weren't empowered to make calls. They'd swallow their whistles in big games and that wasn't as bad as lots of random calls.
-No auto whistle with dump ins with a teammate still in the other team's zone (was later reverted, thank god).
-When the score was still tied after 65 min it was a tie. Loser point is dumb. And worse is the shootout. There's nothing wrong with a regular season tie. Nothing at all.
-A lot more wooden sticks. Stick didn't randomly break in half for no reason at the rate they break now. I don't know if that's why but it feels like the passing game was better as a result.
-There were only 4 divisions. If you lead your division, you deserved a spot at the top. But with 6 divisions, there are sometimes **** divisions and often you have a team that doesn't belong in the top 3. It messes up the standings and just makes for dumb playoffs matchups with teams gone too early which shouldn't be. Fans lose.

I would have gone through a little bit of grief as a young kid (even as an adult) missing out on '92 NHL.

But this NHL ? With the lockouts, teams moving to southern USA, shootouts, refs still the same level of terrible but now they've been empowered to make calls and every game is a roller coaster of randomness as a result, concussions, UFA age at 25-27, salary caps, ... well that NHL I don't think I will miss so much.

Over the past 20 years there has been a constant will to fix what was not broken. Ties, the infamous ruined season because of the stupid skate in goalie circle rule. And nearly every time it just made the game worse and worse. The game didn't need to be changed.
Honestly, if it were me, I'd undo nearly all changes that have been made over the past 20 years. The best changes of the past 20 years have been regulating goalie equipment (duh), moving Atlanta to winnipeg, reverting the neutral zone dump in rule, removal of the central line for 2 zones passes purposes. So nearly all good changes were just about reverting the mistakes of the past 20 years. Pretty much every other changes have just made the game a little worse one little change at a time until it's become a shadow of what it once was. The good news is that the NHL was awesome back then, so as a shadow of its former self, it's still good. Just sad to think it could be much better.

Wow talk about going on a huge tangent and sounding like a bitter nostalgic old man. Oh well.. I've written it might as well hit submit reply now.


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09-29-2012, 11:10 AM
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I saw this http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2012...-season/11655/ posted in the business of hockey section here and after reading it I don't care if the NHL is gone for multiple years if it's true.. I hope the owners wait this out long enough that the players come crawling back begging to go back..

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09-29-2012, 11:39 AM
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I'm currently in Kamloops, a crapload of kilometers away from home. I rarely have access to a TV and my internet connection is down 50% of the time so if it werent for this forum, i probably wouldn't even know there is a lockout

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None of them. I'm a normal person.

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I probably experienced these 5 stages in 2004 but this time around I skipped over all 5 and went straight to #6..

6) I really don't give a **** .
Number 6 for me as well.

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