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06-24-2012, 10:30 AM
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With our current players:

Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Mac
Kulemin-Connolly-Frattin
Komarov-Steckel-Brown

Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Gardiner-Liles
Franson-Komisarek

Reimer/Scrivens

Hoping we can trade Mac to make a spot for Kadri, pick up a number 1 goalie, sign schultz, and possibly pick up a low-end 1st line/high end 2nd line center like Derek Roy


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06-24-2012, 10:31 AM
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I'd trade Dion straight up for MPS, and I think the Oilers would do it. Gives the Leafs another good forward, and cap space for future moves/ UFC signings.
Trade the number one D for a prospect who is struggling to be an NHL regular? This is defientely one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen here.

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06-24-2012, 10:33 AM
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Leafs still need to make room for Kadri and Frat
They got to many Forwards
Kessel
Lupul
JVR
Mac
Kuli
Army
Lombardi
Bozak
Grabo
COnnoly
Steckel
Brown

That's 10 forwards on that list With no room for kadri or Frat
I honestly think Burke will trade Connoly. Is Kulemin signed yet? He'll probably get offer sheeted by DET if he hits RFA July 1. Lombardi can be burried or traded. Then we have:

Lupul-_______-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Kadri
Mac-Bozak-Frattin
Army-Steckle-Brown

Also on D, Franson and Holzer are RFAs on July 1. We'll resign Holzer, I don't know about Franson.

Phaneuf-Gunnarson
Gardiner-Holzer
Liles-Komisarek

Our Goaltending duo will be:

Riemer
Scrivins

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06-24-2012, 10:37 AM
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I think Franson signing will depend wholly on whether or not we land Schultz.

I have a suspicion he will end up on the Rangers though.

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06-24-2012, 10:47 AM
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Phaneuf is a #1 d-man for crying out loud. People are so quick to just toss him aside. Do you know how hard it would be to fill the void left by Phaneuf? Only 11 d-men had more point than him and only 9 d-men had a higher TOI/G than him. Trust me when I say this, none of those other d-men are available.

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06-24-2012, 10:48 AM
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The latest from Henny:


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@HennyTweets hey Paul should I be hitting refresh on twitter all day or will this deal take some time to complete?

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@dantheman_84 these are refresing times.

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@catz1123 patience !

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06-24-2012, 10:52 AM
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Jeezus, if this was anyone but Henny (ie. Eklund) I would've dismissed it right away, but Henny never does this kind of thing. I hope this 2nd deal gets done soon.

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06-24-2012, 10:54 AM
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Go take a shower. Make some food. Go for a run. Do something nice for someone.

Seriously, hitting refresh all day?

F5! F5! F5!

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06-24-2012, 10:55 AM
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bobby ryan will make a good flyer
i'll guess: simmonds voracek and..... hmm

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06-24-2012, 10:56 AM
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Trade MacArthur, Franson, Conolly to Vancouver for Luongo

Trade Kadri to Nashville for Wilson

Sign Sami Salo if we don't get Shultz




Lupul - Grabovski - Kessel
Riemsdyk - Colborne - Frattin
Wilson - Bozak - Kulemin
Brown - Steckel - Armstrong

Gunnarson - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Salo
Liles - Komisarek

Luongo
Reimer

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06-24-2012, 10:56 AM
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If I had to guess Burke is unloading one of LACK.

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06-24-2012, 10:58 AM
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I refer to the TSN interview at the end of the season, Dion wouldn't acknowledge his part in the Leafs collapse, not very leader like. Rumours of Dion having locker room issues arose not just in Toronto, but Calgary too. Any truth to the rumours is debatable, but where there's smoke, there's usually fire. As for why Calgary traded Dion, I think it was mostly a money issue. I think Sutter didn't think he was worth the money, money that could be better allocated. Of course Sutter went out and extended Stajan to just as ridiculous a contract so go figure. I was excited when Dion was traded here, and still think the Leafs won that trade, but he's nowhere near the player he was when he entered the league, that I am sure of. I have been laughed at for suggesting MPS is fair value for Dion, therefore someone please give me some examples of forwards that would be equal value IF Burke decided to trade Dion? Which of course Burke will NEVER do.
Go back and refer to that video he didn't separate himself from his teammates, everything he answered was "team" not "me" the way Leader should be, his quote about the collapse was "we win as a team we loose as a team" $hit what a horrible thing to say as a leader, Further more he said what happen is completely unacceptable and that nobody in the room is happy, F@ck what dumb@ss for saying that. What did you want him to say that I sucked? Where 's the leadership in that?

Your hate clouds your judgment dear sir. Does he make mistakes name 1 NHL player who doesn't. You have an opinion that he's incompetent as a Leader and defensively well tell me why in the world would hockey Canada have him on the team at the worlds and place a letter on his jersey.

That he doesn't float your boat that's fine there's nothing wrong with that. I hated Pavel Bure didn't want him on my team one bit but never would I do what you and many others on here do is go off base with baseless facts, rumors to satisfy your hatred for a particular player. You think Leaf fans would learn by the whole Larry Murphy fiasco yet again this is Leaf Nation who suffer from Stanelycupisossis a disease that effects the hockey fan from staying grounded to being over critical, over analytical to the point they lose all sense of common sense and just hate all the time. Unfortunately there is only one cure for this disease and that's to win the Stanley cup until that happens fans like yourself will be spreading. Don't worry this isn't knew Sundin was treated the same way. If I had a dime for every time somebody blasted Sundin's character, leadership and production I would be a millionaire this crap just doesn't stop.


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06-24-2012, 10:58 AM
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Kadri for Wilson... I like that. And that is precisely the type of move I've been advocating for with regards to Kadri.

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06-24-2012, 11:00 AM
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What is Wilson's upside? 50 points doesn't really cut it...

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06-24-2012, 11:00 AM
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If we get Wilson then I would be looking forward to a JVR-Wilson-Frattin line

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06-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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The latest from Henny:
wtf man I feel like he's just talking out of his ass.

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06-24-2012, 11:07 AM
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With our current players:

Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Mac
Kulemin-Connolly-Frattin
Komarov-Steckel-Brown

Gunnarsson-Phaneuf
Gardiner-Liles
Franson-Komisarek

Reimer/Scrivens

Hoping we can trade Mac to make a spot for Kadri, pick up a number 1 goalie, sign schultz, and possibly pick up a low-end 1st line/high end 2nd line center like Derek Roy
From my armchair, If I'm BB, I'm looking long and hard about a package containing Clowe, Niemi and D. Murray. With Schenn gone and Schultz seemingly imminent we need a big rugged D to replace hits and blocked shots. Murray is a veteran and a tank, Niemi is a solid tender and Clowe is - well you guys already know what Clowe is.

We'll need to include Mac or Kulemin so they replace Clowe and get faster doing it. Kulemin/Mac and Clowe are likely a wash, but if Clowe is worth slightly more it's offset with Gunnarson for Murray, SJ gets more mobility without sacrificing the minutes Murray eats.

Tricky part is valuing Niemi. A deal that had traction on the main boards pre-draft was Gunnar + Mac for Clowe & Niemi... not sure what happens when you throw Murray into the mix. I think one of Reimer/Scrivens goes, along with a higher pick or a prospect.

Assuming we dump Armstrong and Mac goes in the trade, our lines look like:

Lupul-Bozak-Kessel
JVR-Grabo-Clowe
Kulemin-Connolly-Frattin
Komarov-Steckel-Brown

Gardiner-Phaneuf
Murray-Liles
Franson-Holzer

Komisarek/Schultz

Niemi
Reimer/Scrivens

Then we endeavor to replace Bozak as the #1, with as you suggest a guy like Roy, or possibly Gagner, by moving Holzer and Franson, and adding from there.

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06-24-2012, 11:10 AM
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are we getting stastny ?

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I'd trade Dion straight up for MPS, and I think the Oilers would do it. Gives the Leafs another good forward, and cap space for future moves/ UFC signings.
You'd trade a legitimate #1 defenseman that plays in all situations for a struggling and inconsistent, soft winger with second-line upside? Of course Edmonton would do it. They get the player that plays a harder position, is the better player at their position, is fully developed, can captain an original six Canadian team, and have more of an impact on the game.

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bobby ryan will make a good flyer
i'll guess: simmonds voracek and..... hmm
He'll make a better Toronto Maple Leaf .

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He'll make a better Toronto Maple Leaf .
well.
i think we all know where he's going

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He'll make a better Toronto Maple Leaf .

I say with JVR in our lineup any Nash/Ryan deal is improbable. Sounds like we may have something brewing with Nashville, and I think we may see action with SJ and possibly Edmonton.

Re: Stastny: can't see him moving now - Colorado, Pittsburgh and Philly are expected to be closest to Parise and Zack is apparently friends with Paul. If Colorado wants to pitch themselves they won't do it by trading Paul.

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I know Henny isn't normally a rumor mongerer, but this is getting on my nerves. The "these are refreshing times" comment is gonna look bad in hindsight if nothing happens.

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I say with JVR in our lineup any Nash/Ryan deal is improbable. Sounds like we may have something brewing with Nashville, and I think we may see action with SJ and possibly Edmonton.

Re: Stastny: can't see him moving now - Colorado, Pittsburgh and Philly are expected to be closest to Parise and Zack is apparently friends with Paul. If Colorado wants to pitch themselves they won't do it by trading Paul.
I fully expect it to lull just a tad this week, with tons of rumors, and then as soon as the big FA's drop, then **** goes down.

Nobody wants to trade a guy when he might be a key point in leverage to a UFA, good call.

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I wouldn't trade Phaneuf for Paajarvi but I would be okay with some sort of Phaneuf trade. I just can't stand watching him play. Absolutely brutal. Slow on the defensive side, looks lost when he just stops into a stationary position in-front of net looking around, and gets beat one on one way to many times. His only upside is his offense and the fact that he can skate well with the puck on the rush. Has a nice shot also.

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