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06-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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Terry Murray may coach Phantoms

https://twitter.com/RenLavoieRDS/sta...83360712151042

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Possible that Terry Murray will be the next coach for the Flyers farm team in Adirondak.

RT @lakingsinsider: Kings gave permission to Flyers organization to hire Terry Murray, who is expected to be AHL coach. Murray will get a Cup ring from Kings.


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Wouldn't mind. A good coach to get prospects NHL ready.

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A pretty big contrast between his and Laviolette's systems...

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Possible internal replacement for Laviolette if things go south?

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Possible internal replacement for Laviolette if things go south?
Sounds like it. He offered Laviolette the Phantoms job the summer before he fired Stevens.

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A pretty big contrast between his and Laviolette's systems...
That is what I thought when I seen that. Interesting

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That is what I thought when I seen that. Interesting
By the time we implement a tight defensive system like the Kings run, they will go back to the 100% enforcing penalties for clutching, grabbing, and interference like right after the lockout.

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Per Rich Hammond, who is the Kings blogger. When it comes to Kings, he is the authority on reporting things.

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– The Kings gave permission to the Philadelphia Flyers organization to hire Terry Murray, who is expected to be the head coach of the AHL affiliate. Lombardi said Murray would get a Stanley Cup ring from the Kings.

Nice to see Terry get a job but IMO I don't think its the best thing for prospects. His system tends to stifle offense a lot and that could hurt when trying to develop offensive prospects. The one thing I can say is that the Phantoms D system will be absolutely awesome. I think every player who plays under him becomes leaps and bounds better defensively.

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Nice to see Terry get a job but IMO I don't think its the best thing for prospects. His system tends to stifle offense a lot and that could hurt when trying to develop offensive prospects. The one thing I can say is that the Phantoms D system will be absolutely awesome. I think every player who plays under him becomes leaps and bounds better defensively.
We don't really have any offensive prospects in the AHL.

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Not a bad thing and it's good to have him in the wings should Lavi next season still not figure out how to beat very good defensive teams like NYR, Boston, NJ, etc.......

One thing about Murray is he is very good at developing D men and he's been said to be good with European players as well but yes from an offensive standpoint he is pretty much the complete opposite of Laviolette. Maybe the contrast will help although typically you want continuity between your farm team and the big club.

Finally, Stevens initial success with the Flyers IMO was as a result of having Murray help from a tactical perspective. Once Murray left for LA, Stevens couldn't coach the team out of a paper bag and they were horrendously out of shape and undisciplined.....by Dec until Lavi was brought in the Flyers were a complete wreck. In other words..Stevens needed a baby sitter just like the team...

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Don't think Murray is any sort of potential replacement for Lavy. That would be Craig Berube.

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Possible internal replacement for Laviolette if things go south?
Stop teasing me.

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Nice to see Terry get a job but IMO I don't think its the best thing for prospects. His system tends to stifle offense a lot and that could hurt when trying to develop offensive prospects. The one thing I can say is that the Phantoms D system will be absolutely awesome. I think every player who plays under him becomes leaps and bounds better defensively.
Great. Then they get called up or make the big club and all that teaching goes out the window.

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I have no idea how this would make any sense from an organizational continuity perspective. Murray and Laviolette are basically polar opposites.

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Phantoms medical staff must be practicing the Heimlich in case of potential choking situations.

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I would be OK with this hire. It's not always easy teaching players good defense skills I think Murray could help there.

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I would be OK with this hire. It's not always easy teaching players good defense skills I think Murray could help there.
Exactly. Players coming up WILL be defensively responsible.

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This would be bizarre. Training players in a system that is wildly different from that played in the NHL?

I support a more defensively responsible system, but it doesn't seem like it would properly prepare players moving them from Murray's system in the AHL to Lavi's system in the NHL.

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Murray certainly has the experience, but I'd still rather have the guy we just fired

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I have no idea how this would make any sense from an organizational continuity perspective. Murray and Laviolette are basically polar opposites.
So were Barber and Stevens when Barber was coaching the Flyers and Stevens was coaching the Phantoms. Different personalities at the NHL and AHL level isn't necessarily a bad thing.

That said regardless of who the coach of the Phantoms is, most likely he will use Lavi's system and not implement his own. The point of the AHL is to have players able to fill in at the NHL level when called up.

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So were Barber and Stevens when Barber was coaching the Flyers and Stevens was coaching the Phantoms. Different personalities at the NHL and AHL level isn't necessarily a bad thing.

That said regardless of who the coach of the Phantoms is, most likely he will use Lavi's system and not implement his own. The point of the AHL is to have players able to fill in at the NHL level when called up.


So Murray, who has been a defensive coach his entire career, where his system just won a cup, is going to teach Lavy's system??!?!!??!?

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So Murray, who has been a defensive coach his entire career, where his system just won a cup, is going to teach Lavy's system??!?!!??!?
Laugh all you want, the flyers ahl affiliate will not play a different system than the flyers do. It makes no sense to do so from any standpoint.

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Laugh all you want, the flyers ahl affiliate will not play a different system than the flyers do. It makes no sense to do so from any standpoint.
I agree it makes no sense. What coach would take a job where he is asked to teach hockey in a such a way that it completely goes against his strengths? Especially after the system he excels in teaching, just won a cup.

Perhaps the better question would be, what team would ask a coach to teach a system that is the polar opposite of the one he just taught a team that used it to win the cup?

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Phantoms medical staff must be practicing the Heimlich in case of potential choking situations.
Virus of the trachea.

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