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06-23-2012, 05:03 PM
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Could Morgan Rielly Pull A Luke Schenn?

I know Luke had his share of hardships and just got traded, but...

If Morgan Rielly does really well for the Leafs in training camp, could you see him staying with them this coming season? Personally, I think no matter how good he does, he should spend another year in the WHL, and maybe a year in the AHL.

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06-23-2012, 05:07 PM
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I was going to say the Reilly needs time to grow and fill out, but hes actually the same size and weight as Gunnarsson!

I doubt he makes the team though. I hope this means Schultz is coming here

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No.

By all accounts he's got some developing ahead of him, at least 1, if not 2 years. We have plenty of D, including NHL ready guys in the A.

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No.

By all accounts he's got some developing ahead of him, at least 1, if not 2 years. We have plenty of D, including NHL ready guys in the A.
Indeed. If Burke signs Schultz, I see the Leafs D-core looking something like this next year...

Jake Gardiner - Dion Phaneuf
J.M. Liles - Korbinian Holzer
Carl Gunnarsson - Justin Schultz


Still not that great, but getting Luongo could help a lot.

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He missed almost an entire years worth of development. He should go back to Moose Jaw for at least one more year.

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Luke Schenn being traded opens up the possibility of Justin Schultz. If he surprises the Leafs, he'll get a 9 game stint but I want Rielly to dominate the WHL and go win gold for Canada.

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If Fowler can make the Anaheim Ducks, Rielly can as well.

It'll really depend on his off-season training. By his combine results, seems like he's all ready on his way.

Realistically, he's a year away from serious consideration.

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Luke Schenn being traded opens up the possibility of Justin Schultz.
God I hope so.

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The better, more fitting question is could Morgan Rielly pull a JAKE GARDINER?

God I hope so.

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I was going to say the Reilly needs time to grow and fill out, but hes actually the same size and weight as Gunnarsson!

I doubt he makes the team though. I hope this means Schultz is coming here
Gunnar is almost three inches taller.

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Schenn would have never started in the NHL right away if Burke was the GM.

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I would give Reilly two years and half the year in the AHL, and then he can move up.

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Definitely not. Rielly's only played 1 and a bit seasons in the WHL. Especially after coming off that knee injury, he definitely would benefit from a year or two of tearing up the WHL and hopefully having a strong showing at the WJCs. Then we can judge whether some time is needed in the AHL or whether he can step right in with the Leafs.

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Indeed. If Burke signs Schultz, I see the Leafs D-core looking something like this next year...

Jake Gardiner - Dion Phaneuf
J.M. Liles - Korbinian Holzer
Carl Gunnarsson - Justin Schultz


Still not that great, but getting Luongo could help a lot.
Gunnarson - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Schultz
Liles - Holzer


Would be a lot better (IMO) Gunnar worked well with Phaneuf, Gardiner has played with Schultz before, and our PMD Liles should play with a good defensive player like Holzer...

Wish we traded Holzer/Gunnarson/Franson+ for JVR instead of Schenn though

Next year:
Reilly - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Schultz
Blacker - Percy

??? (Reilly coming up after a year in juniors and a few months in the AHL)

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No, offensive guys should be kept down a year (d-men) as opposed to defensive D.

Main reason why is because Luke was already a man at 18, he was 220+ pounds already and could hit and block shots. Rielly is 6 feet, 200 pounds, but kid needs to have a year of dominance in the WHL before he can get his confidence up after his injury and figure out his defensive game. If it was offense alone, this guy would be on our #1 PP dishing to Dion for a clapper.

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Gunnar is almost three inches taller.
What I read listed them as 1'' apart

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No. Schenn was drafted as an NHL ready defenceman, with his size and having played a big role in the WJCs. Rielly doesn't have those same attributes and missed a bunch of this year due to injury. He's still very raw, plus the Leafs are loaded with puckmovers.

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Burke said he would have left Luke Schenn in the WHL the year he played his rookie season with Toronto (that was a Fletcher decision)

I think you'll see Rielly remain in the WHL this year - he may play with the Leafs the first few games of the season, but I think he'll be sent down,

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Burke said he would have left Luke Schenn in the WHL the year he played his rookie season with Toronto (that was a Fletcher decision)

I think you'll see Rielly remain in the WHL this year - he may play with the Leafs the first few games of the season, but I think he'll be sent down,
This I definitely wouldn't mind seeing. Actually hoping he gets a tryout at the beginning of the regular season.

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I would hope not, we rushed Schenn's development. He played 18 games last year in the WHL. He should go back to junior.

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Rielly and Schenn are completely different players. I would draw no lines between either player; there is no sense in doing so.

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I hope he goes back for another year of junior, or even two if thats what he needs, and then given a shot at the leafs lineup.

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Rielly and Schenn are completely different players. I would draw no lines between either player; there is no sense in doing so.
Exactly. We didn't "ruin" Schenn by playing him in the first year because he played pretty darn good in that year.

His skating just didn't get better.

If he sucked in his first year, I'd agree that we rushed him.

Rielly is in a different stratosphere as far as hockey skills, IQ and skating goes. He's an offensive defenseman with good two way skills.

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I doubt it. I'd rather let him take a full season in the WHL to develop after his injury. He should go play for Canada at the WJCs this year aswell.

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I think some of you are missing the OP's question. His question is if Rielly can do what Schenn did here, that is make the team out of training camp after getting drafted by them 3 months earlier. He is not trying to compare the players. So far all scouting reports point to no, regarding Rielly making the big club. When Schenn was drafted, he was pegged as the most NHL ready defensemen, the only one in this draft seems to Ryan Murray.

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