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06-23-2012, 04:24 PM
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So now that we have JVR......

... are we primed to move a forward for another asset?

If they keep the Lupul-Bozak-Kessel (barring some inconceivable trade for a #1 centreman) line and the MacArthur-Grabo-Kulemin line stay together, is it possible we look at moving someone?

Wouldn't surprise me to see MacArthur moved... but I'm curious to find out what everyone else thinks. Maybe he goes to Vancouver in a Luongo deal? Dealt for third line grit?

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06-23-2012, 04:26 PM
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Lupul - _____ - Kessel - Top Line
JVR - Grabo - Kulie - Two-Way Shutdown Line
Kadri - _____ - Frattin - Sheltered Scoring Line
Brown - Steckle - _____ - Energy Line



MacArthur, Lombardi, Armstrong, Conolly, Bozak, Rosehill, Crabb

All don't really fit in any more.

We need a 1st line C, elite level play maker, has speed can play D - ( Stastny? )
We need a 3rd line C, size can shut people down with some scoring touch - ( Gaustad? )
We need a 4th line winger, intimidating, big, physical ( Prust?)


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Next move is for a #1 Centre, Schultz and Luongo.

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I love Mac but if we want to be the best we need to get better.

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... are we primed to move a forward for another asset?

If they keep the Lupul-Bozak-Kessel (barring some inconceivable trade for a #1 centreman) line and the MacArthur-Grabo-Kulemin line stay together, is it possible we look at moving someone?

Wouldn't surprise me to see MacArthur moved... but I'm curious to find out what everyone else thinks. Maybe he goes to Vancouver in a Luongo deal? Dealt for third line grit?
With the signing of Leo Komarov and the emergence of Frattin, I don't think 3rd line grit is a priority. I can see Cmac going with Army for Lu...they need some people with pushback as much as we need a goalie

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06-23-2012, 04:40 PM
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Lupul - _____ - Kessel - Top Line
JVR - Grabo - Kulie - Two-Way Shutdown Line
Kadri - Bozak - Frattin - Sheltered Scoring Line
Brown - Steckle - Parros - Energy Line
Crabb

Phanuef-Gunnarson
Liles- Holzer
Gardiner- Lashoff*
*If we land Schultz insert here.
LU
Reimer


Lombardi, Armstrong, Conolly, Rosehill- you are correct, need to be moved for draft picks

All don't really fit in any more.

We need a 1st line C, elite level play maker, has speed can play D - ( Stastny? )
We need a 3rd line C, size can shut people down with some scoring touch - ( Gaustad? )
We need a 4th line winger, intimidating, big, physical ( Prust?)
Prust is really right now gonna re-sign with the .

IMO Will trade Mac + Franson for a 1st line centre. You hit the nail on the head with Stastny. With the Duchene signing...I believe Paul is not too impressed as he might even be competing with Ryan O'Reilly for the second line centre spot now. Then Komisarek + prospect maybe for Lu? Bozak can definitely play on the 3rd centre role. 4th line I am hoping Parros. I do like Crabb and I am hoping we resign him.

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Lupul - _____ - Kessel - Top Line
JVR - Grabo - Kulie - Two-Way Shutdown Line
Kadri - _____ - Frattin - Sheltered Scoring Line
Brown - Steckle - _____ - Energy Line



MacArthur, Lombardi, Armstrong, Conolly, Bozak, Rosehill, Crabb

All don't really fit in any more.

We need a 1st line C, elite level play maker, has speed can play D - ( Stastny? )
We need a 3rd line C, size can shut people down with some scoring touch - ( Gaustad? )
We need a 4th line winger, intimidating, big, physical ( Prust?)
I would like to subscribe to your magazine.

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Macarthur + Franson will get you an AHL calibre first line centre ^

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Following the line types from that article:

Lupul - XXXX - Kessel Top Line
Kulemin - Grabovski - Frattin Shutdown Line
JVR - XXXX - Kadri Scoring Line < --- Bozak?
XXXX - Steckle - Brown Energy line

Personally my interpretation of the top 6 bottom 6 was a little different...

Does this mean Kadri should be played on the 3rd line? and that Kadri will only be a 3rd or 1st liner for us?

edit: also how good is JVR's two-way game? I never thought it was very good, but to be honest I don't watch him very often...

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06-23-2012, 04:51 PM
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Personally i have our line-up as

Lupul - XXXX - Kessel
JVR - Grabovski - Kadri
Kulemin - XXXX - Frattin

(not a knock on Kuli, just spreading out the scoring, could easily be JVR there)

Gunnarsson - Phaneuf
Gardiner - Komi/Holzer?
Liles - Franson?

XXXX
Reimer

Need a #1 C, #2D (gardiner/Rielly), #1G

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At the very least this makes Kulemin easier to part with.

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06-23-2012, 04:57 PM
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The next move IMHO should be:

3 of Gunnar, Franson, MacA, Scrivens, Bozak for a young probable 1st line center (Colin Wilson)

or

Gunnar+MacA+Franson for a #1 defenceman to play with Phaneuf (doesn't have to be elite, just a good fit for Phaneuf).

Also, I'm 95% convinced Justin Schultz will sign here.

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i like the trade

some damm forwards!
explains all the d draft ******

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I don't expect Kadri or Frattin on the third line. Either traded or in AHL. They are not bottom 6 types.

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Luongo is a must. Dump Komisarek the other way.
Acquire a top six centerman with size (a #1 is highly unlikely).
Sign Justin Schultz.
Done....

Dump pending UFA's MacArthur, Lombardi, Connolly and Armstrong at the deadline if possible.

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Oh ffs.
This is the dumbest move in franchise history.
lol this quote from the flyers fans is hilarious
they seem pretty bummed

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Joffrey Lupul - Tyler Bozak - Phil Kessel
James van Riemsdyk - Mikhail Grabovski - Nikolai Kulemin
Nazem Kadri - Tim Connolly - Matt Frattin
Jerry D'Amigo - David Steckel - Mike Brown
Leo Komarov

Clarke MacArthur gets moved out for picks or prospects, or maybe in a package to upgrade the top-6.

Matthew Lombardi and Colby Armstrong are gone - traded for anything or in the minors.

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If Kadri gets traded, which I hope to god not, then him in a deal for Getzlaf is a start.

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Just don't want to see another year of Tyler Bozak as the #1 C.

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06-23-2012, 05:11 PM
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If Kadri gets traded, which I hope to god not, then him in a deal for Getzlaf is a start.
Getzlaf will cost us a boatload.

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A winger is going, we can almost count on it.

Lupul/Kessel
JVR/Kulemin
Mac/Frattin
Komarov/Brown

Wingers not included there are Lombardi, Armstrong, Kadri who all have very realistic chances at making the team or are for sure gunna be there.

Which leaves Bozak, Lombardi(plays both C and W), Connolly, Colborne to battle for the first and third line C posititions(assuming Steckel is #4 and Grabo #2)

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Getzlaf will cost us a boatload.
Ofcourse...it would be Kadri+++ for Getzlaf.

I don't think Getzlaf makes it to UFA but if he does...I'm sure Burke will pretty much hand him a blank cheque.

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What about signing Jagr to play on the same line as JVR. Jagr is risk free, still full of talent, 1 year deal, 2 Flyers in our top 6 that can provide either secondary, or top 3 scoring (depending on who's hot, who's injured) and drastically improve our top 6 forwards.

Thoughts?

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I'm sure Burke will pretty much hand him a blank cheque.
Both Perry and Getz.

JVR Getz Perry
Lupul Grab -----

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