HFBoards  

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Philadelphia Flyers
Notices

Roster 2012-2013 - Part II

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old
07-19-2012, 03:08 AM
  #401
orange is better
than other colors...
 
orange is better's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 5,630
vCash: 500
Yeah I'm really hoping it does, but I can't justify thinking that Nashville won't match. Its a huge contract, but Shea is the best defenseman in the league, and probably the only think keeping them from the NHL cellar...I just have a feeling they match

orange is better is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 03:19 AM
  #402
Krishna
Poster of the Year
 
Krishna's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 70,297
vCash: 218904
Quote:
Originally Posted by orange is better View Post
Yeah I'm really hoping it does, but I can't justify thinking that Nashville won't match. Its a huge contract, but Shea is the best defenseman in the league, and probably the only think keeping them from the NHL cellar...I just have a feeling they match
Suter AND Weber were keeping them from the bottom

With Suter gone, the question is can Weber keep them afloat alone?

Since it seems Weber wants out of Nashville, it makes more sense to take the picks and start a rebuild.. 2x 1st round picks for the next 4 years is nice

Krishna is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 04:03 AM
  #403
Flyerfan808
Registered User
 
Flyerfan808's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Honolulu, HI
Country: United States
Posts: 1,985
vCash: 500
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Jody Shelley ($1.100m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Braydon Coburn ($4.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) /
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $69,221,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $978,056

Flyerfan808 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 06:55 AM
  #404
dingbathero
The Ginger Line!
 
dingbathero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Smoky Lake, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,025
vCash: 500
CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER

My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.550m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m)
Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m) /

DEFENSEMEN
Shea Weber ($8.500m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Andreas Lilja ($0.738m) /

GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $67,596,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $2,603,056

Loads of space for us - call up a 4th line C or sign one that wins FO's - Provided NAS does not match - fingers crossed.

dingbathero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 07:28 AM
  #405
46zone
Guttersnipe
 
46zone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 1,683
vCash: 500
Should Nashville not match we could then move Meszaros and still be able to bring in a top six forward.

46zone is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 09:20 AM
  #406
JayB
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 200
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 46zone View Post
Should Nashville not match we could then move Meszaros and still be able to bring in a top six forward.
Agree.. And i think that is what Holmgren is after. What we can get with Mezza+Read+prospect(Not Schenn/Couturier)+picks? Ryan? Clowe+Murray? Doan?

If we get Weber, then trade Mezza for picks , waive Lilja&Shelley and hope somebody claim them, then do offer for Doan like 5-6.5m 2-4y.

So we have something like this:

Harts-G-xxx(Ryan/Clowe/Doan)
Voracek-Briere-Schenn
Fedotenko-Couturier-Simmonds
Wellwood/Sestito-Talbot-Rinaldo

xxx(Weber)-Timonen
Grossman-Coburn
Schenn-xxx(Murray/prospect)

Nice one.

JayB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 10:01 AM
  #407
jd2210
Because I heff to
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Emo, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,265
vCash: 500
IF Weber does come here I may be the lone guy who hopes we don't move a defenseman. You can't have enough good players on the blueline. Injuries happen. There is no need to make Weber play 30 minutes a game till the playoffs. Id' rather see the young guys fight for top 12 spots than trade Mez and try to get a top 6 forward. JMO.

jd2210 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 10:12 AM
  #408
RussianRocket10
Registered User
 
RussianRocket10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Pennsylvania
Country: United States
Posts: 1,785
vCash: 500
This might be the longest week of my life.

RussianRocket10 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 10:47 AM
  #409
orange is better
than other colors...
 
orange is better's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 5,630
vCash: 500
I'm not going to be able to sleep all week now.

Just one question: I thought the deal was 14 years 110 million? Why is his cap hit 8.5 then? Wouldnt that make it like 7.86 or so? Or is it 8.5 without a bonus cushion?

orange is better is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 12:24 PM
  #410
phillyfanatic
Registered User
 
phillyfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,628
vCash: 500
Weber is 110 million over 14 years, so 7.85. No problem as far as I can see

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Shea Weber ($7.800m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,026,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,173,056

phillyfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 12:56 PM
  #411
sg12lw
Registered User
 
sg12lw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Country: United States
Posts: 706
vCash: 500
get weber

keep mez

sign jake

pray for bryz not to suck

win cup!

sg12lw is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:13 PM
  #412
Osk1994
Registered User
 
Osk1994's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Country: Finland
Posts: 169
vCash: 500
What is the situation with Pronger??? Is he going to come back?

Osk1994 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:16 PM
  #413
Beef Invictus
Global Moderator
Stanley Cup Forum
 
Beef Invictus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Alexandria
Country: Liberia
Posts: 24,431
vCash: 567
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osk1994 View Post
What is the situation with Pronger??? Is he going to come back?
Unlikely, unfortunately.

__________________
Down in the basement, I've got a Craftsman lathe. Show it to the children when they misbehave.
Beef Invictus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:41 PM
  #414
96
Registered User
 
96's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,444
vCash: 500
Please....please let Weber go to Philly. Imagine how stacked our defense could be:

Timonen - Weber
Grossmann - Coburn
Schenn - Meszaros
-------------------
Lilja - Gervais
Bourdon - Gustafsson

I have a feeling we'd trade Meszaros if we landed Weber, though.

96 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:44 PM
  #415
SolidSnakeUS
Registered User
 
SolidSnakeUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pipersville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 21,339
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyfanatic View Post
Weber is 110 million over 14 years, so 7.85. No problem as far as I can see

FORWARDS
Scott Hartnell ($4.200m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Danny Briere ($6.500m)
Matt Read ($0.900m) / Brayden Schenn ($3.110m) / Jakub Voracek ($3.250m)
Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m)
Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
Tom Sestito ($0.605m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m) / Shea Weber ($7.800m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Nicklas Grossmann ($3.500m)
Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m)
Bruno Gervais ($0.825m) / Andreas Lilja ($0.738m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.667m)
Michael Leighton ($0.900m)
BUYOUTS
Oskars Bartulis ($0.100m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $70,200,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,026,944; BONUSES: $2,705,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $2,173,056
I think from what someone mentioned, the problem with this is that Pronger's cap does not immediately go away while he's on the LTIR.

SolidSnakeUS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:49 PM
  #416
Damaged Goods
Registered User
 
Damaged Goods's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Philadelphia
Country: United States
Posts: 1,475
vCash: 500
The Flyers could fit the current roster (minus Meszaros) under a $63 M salary cap if need be.


Damaged Goods is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 01:57 PM
  #417
Beef Invictus
Global Moderator
Stanley Cup Forum
 
Beef Invictus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Alexandria
Country: Liberia
Posts: 24,431
vCash: 567
Whoa. Nice.

Beef Invictus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 02:24 PM
  #418
dingbathero
The Ginger Line!
 
dingbathero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Smoky Lake, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,025
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fish Invictus View Post
Whoa. Nice.
They can also do it, WITH Mez.... see my above roster.

dingbathero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 03:10 PM
  #419
phillyfanatic
Registered User
 
phillyfanatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ottawa, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,628
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by SolidSnakeUS View Post
I think from what someone mentioned, the problem with this is that Pronger's cap does not immediately go away while he's on the LTIR.
They are able to go 10% over the cap during the summer. They would have to get to 77+ million including Pronger for their to be a problem. No worries there. With Weber at 7.8 and Voracek at 3.25 we are only at 73 million. And that is with 24 players.

phillyfanatic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 03:56 PM
  #420
SolidSnakeUS
Registered User
 
SolidSnakeUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Pipersville, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 21,339
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by phillyfanatic View Post
They are able to go 10% over the cap during the summer. They would have to get to 77+ million including Pronger for their to be a problem. No worries there. With Weber at 7.8 and Voracek at 3.25 we are only at 73 million. And that is with 24 players.
I know that, but with the season starting, it's a problem.

SolidSnakeUS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 06:20 PM
  #421
LeafsFan10
HickTown
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,498
vCash: 500
Leafs fan here, I come in peace....first off congrats on Shea Weber.....

Secondly wanted to ask you about Jakub Voracek, didnt want to start a new thread.

What do you think his upside is?
What do you think his stregths/weaknesses are?
And atm is he a first liner, second liner, or third liner?

Thanks So Much Guys!!!

LeafsFan10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 06:49 PM
  #422
YuioIklo
Registered User
 
YuioIklo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Quebec
Posts: 1,133
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Damaged Goods View Post
The Flyers could fit the current roster (minus Meszaros) under a $63 M salary cap if need be.

Nope, because Shelley isn't going anywhere.

YuioIklo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 07:41 PM
  #423
DeflatedFootball7
Registered User
 
DeflatedFootball7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Belleville
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,408
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan10 View Post
Leafs fan here, I come in peace....first off congrats on Shea Weber.....

Secondly wanted to ask you about Jakub Voracek, didnt want to start a new thread.

What do you think his upside is?
What do you think his stregths/weaknesses are?
And atm is he a first liner, second liner, or third liner?

Thanks So Much Guys!!!
60-70 point player
2nd liner
His strengths are his speed, and his ability to protect the puck. His shot on the other hand, is weak.

DeflatedFootball7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 07:57 PM
  #424
laundryman
Registered User
 
laundryman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 655
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan10 View Post
Leafs fan here, I come in peace....first off congrats on Shea Weber.....

Secondly wanted to ask you about Jakub Voracek, didnt want to start a new thread.

What do you think his upside is?
What do you think his stregths/weaknesses are?
And atm is he a first liner, second liner, or third liner?

Thanks So Much Guys!!!
Upside is a fringe first liner (I think he can look like it playing on Giroux's wing), probably will be a career second liner

Strengths are his athleticism (he's fast, strong on the puck, etc.). Not so great shot (inconsistent is the best word for it. I've seen him fire some rockets but miss the net badly)

As I said, I'd put him on the first line with Giroux to start, although

Talbot - Couturier - Voracek

was my favorite line last season

laundryman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-19-2012, 07:59 PM
  #425
Jordan941
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 83
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeafsFan10 View Post
Leafs fan here, I come in peace....first off congrats on Shea Weber.....

Secondly wanted to ask you about Jakub Voracek, didnt want to start a new thread.

What do you think his upside is?
What do you think his stregths/weaknesses are?
And atm is he a first liner, second liner, or third liner?

Thanks So Much Guys!!!

He has the skills to be a first line winger and will probably end up with his chance this year along side Giroux. He has GREAT vision as far as passing is concerned, and can make nifty dekes at top speed. He can make the flashly play, or the solid play, he's very versatile that way. His shot is definitely a weakness and maybe the fact that he tries to do too much on his own, but I feel like he'll grow out of that.

At the moment he has the skills to play on the top line, but we'll have to see how it works out without having two players with pass first mentalities in Giroux and Voracek on the top line

Jordan941 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:28 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2013 All Rights Reserved.