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06-26-2012, 03:22 PM
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What??? I understand how good Yandle and Subban are, but the Rangers have Girard, Staal, McDonagh, Del Zotto, Sauer? Stralman might be back, and we might have Schultz, WHY on earth are we discussing moving our #2 center in a trade for DEFENSE? when we can't score goals for ****?

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06-26-2012, 03:23 PM
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Agreed.

I just think this team minus a Stepan and plus a Subban is better than the other way around.

Gaborik scored 40 goals with Vinny as a center; he doesn't need Richards, meaning Richie can play on another line. Center depth would still be weak though, but I'm sure we wouldn't be as worse off as it would seem.
Ummm. so is a Nash or Ryan minus a Stepan (if we're not worried about a 2c), and they are a necessity alot more than another defensman is.

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06-26-2012, 03:26 PM
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Ummm. so is a Nash or Ryan minus a Stepan (if we're not worried about a 2c), and they are a necessity alot more than another defensman is.
Ummm...

Not advocating/pushing for a Subban-Stepan trade, just discussing it and the value of the players.

I really don't think we should trade for anyone; wait until Summer 2013. Some of the projected UFAs will make it there (not re-sign with their current teams), and the trade market will be better.

If anyone right now, Nash, but only for Dubi/AA+prospect/picks.

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06-26-2012, 03:28 PM
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Wait a day or 2 because if the Rangers get Schultz they aren't trading a forward and getting Dman in return that would be ridiculous unless the deal was so lol stupid.

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06-26-2012, 03:31 PM
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Wait a day or 2 because if the Rangers get Schultz they aren't trading a forward and getting Dman in return that would be ridiculous unless the deal was so lol stupid.
Yeah, like that's going to happen :P

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06-26-2012, 03:57 PM
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Ummm...

Not advocating/pushing for a Subban-Stepan trade, just discussing it and the value of the players.

I really don't think we should trade for anyone; wait until Summer 2013. Some of the projected UFAs will make it there (not re-sign with their current teams), and the trade market will be better.

If anyone right now, Nash, but only for Dubi/AA+prospect/picks.
I don't mind moving Hagelin if that could get it done. Kreider or Stepan (since we'd need to acquire a 2nd line center) is an obvious no, and so is our defense, and hank, richards or gaborik well thats lol

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06-26-2012, 04:08 PM
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What??? I understand how good Yandle and Subban are, but the Rangers have Girard, Staal, McDonagh, Del Zotto, Sauer? Stralman might be back, and we might have Schultz, WHY on earth are we discussing moving our #2 center in a trade for DEFENSE? when we can't score goals for ****?
Agree, doing that makes no sense. Even if Sauer doesn't come back and Schultz signs elsewhere, this still doesn't make any sense.

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06-26-2012, 04:27 PM
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This thread had gotten out of hand.

Anybody who would do stepan for subban needs to get their head right out of their ass. Stepan has done nothing but progressed and been a positive in just his first two years. He played on successful college and wjc team. Subban has been a headcase at times, defensive liability, and struggled last year offensively.

We got one person stirring the pot about a prospect he has probably seen once and has been an nhl team's property for a hot minute. And were dealing JT Miller and our 1st rd pick for him...GTFO...seriously. And dont worry i know it was the kings board who requested that...how about you go over to that board and stay there since youre constantly coming back here with players you like from LAK and the proposals their fans would accept.

Same poster who sounds like a math professor when he justifies his garbage proposals is completely butchering KEITH YANDLE's name wrong but yet he knows the player enough to discuss packages for him.

And i seriously hope the *mentioning of asham's name was a joke. I dont want that goon and useless hockey player ever to wear a ranger jersey. Probably was a joke but the way this thread is going you never know.

While we're at it lets go see what the cost is for henrik zetterberg and datsyuk.

Please stop with this crap. I know its hard waiting for real news/rumors to pop up or for July 1st to get here but please try.

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06-26-2012, 04:39 PM
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Yeah, but if Asham comes to the Rangers, he'll finally have played on all 5 Atlantic Division teams.

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06-26-2012, 04:41 PM
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This thread had gotten out of hand.

Anybody who would do stepan for subban needs to get their head right out of their ass. Stepan has done nothing but progressed and been a positive in just his first two years. He played on successful college and wjc team. Subban has been a headcase at times, defensive liability, and struggled last year offensively.

We got one person stirring the pot about a prospect he has probably seen once and has been an nhl team's property for a hot minute. And were dealing JT Miller and our 1st rd pick for him...GTFO...seriously. And dont worry i know it was the kings board who requested that...how about you go over to that board and stay there since youre constantly coming back here with players you like from LAK and the proposals their fans would accept.

Same poster who sounds like a math professor when he justifies his garbage proposals is completely butchering KEITH YANDLE's name wrong but yet he knows the player enough to discuss packages for him.

And i seriously hope the *mentioning of asham's name was a joke. I dont want that goon and useless hockey player ever to wear a ranger jersey. Probably was a joke but the way this thread is going you never know.

While we're at it lets go see what the cost is for henrik zetterberg and datsyuk.

Please stop with this crap. I know its hard waiting for real news/rumors to pop up or for July 1st to get here but please try.
We have a winner. Some of these trade proposals just make me go .

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06-26-2012, 04:51 PM
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PK Subban would be great on a pairing with McDonagh.
That would be a pairing to die for!
Where do I sign up?

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06-26-2012, 04:52 PM
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Yeah, but if Asham comes to the Rangers, he'll finally have played on all 5 Atlantic Division teams.
If there was ever a reason to acquire someone...

always wondered why Pittsburgh never acquire the Beezer

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06-26-2012, 04:55 PM
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Yeah, but if Asham comes to the Rangers, he'll finally have played on all 5 Atlantic Division teams.
lol thing is if they lose Prust I could see Asham or Totoo as the targets

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06-26-2012, 05:11 PM
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Tootoo definitely, not a big Asham fan but mostly because he's a Pen.

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06-26-2012, 05:12 PM
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That would be a pairing to die for!
Where do I sign up?
by faxing a proposal with Chris Kreider or Derek Stepan ++ to New York.

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06-26-2012, 05:16 PM
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This thread had gotten out of hand.

Anybody who would do stepan for subban needs to get their head right out of their ass. Stepan has done nothing but progressed and been a positive in just his first two years. He played on successful college and wjc team. Subban has been a headcase at times, defensive liability, and struggled last year offensively.

We got one person stirring the pot about a prospect he has probably seen once and has been an nhl team's property for a hot minute. And were dealing JT Miller and our 1st rd pick for him...GTFO...seriously. And dont worry i know it was the kings board who requested that...how about you go over to that board and stay there since youre constantly coming back here with players you like from LAK and the proposals their fans would accept.

Same poster who sounds like a math professor when he justifies his garbage proposals is completely butchering KEITH YANDLE's name wrong but yet he knows the player enough to discuss packages for him.

And i seriously hope the *mentioning of asham's name was a joke. I dont want that goon and useless hockey player ever to wear a ranger jersey. Probably was a joke but the way this thread is going you never know.

While we're at it lets go see what the cost is for henrik zetterberg and datsyuk.

Please stop with this crap. I know its hard waiting for real news/rumors to pop up or for July 1st to get here but please try.
Maybe you should ignore the people/posts you disagree with?

While I don't agree with a lot of opinions around here everyone has the right to use these forums and discuss whatever they want.

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06-26-2012, 05:31 PM
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lol thing is if they lose Prust I could see Asham or Totoo as the targets
I would take Tootoo but I want no part of Asham. **** him .

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06-26-2012, 05:40 PM
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Keep far away from Asham. Dirty, worthless goon. Can't play hockey. Do not want.

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06-26-2012, 05:42 PM
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how much would Totoo cost though? I mean if its 2 million Prust is already a good fit on this team.........anyone else hear Gaustad and Gil off the market soon?

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06-26-2012, 06:25 PM
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I'm all for grabbing Doan.

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Stepan has done nothing but progressed and been a positive in just his first two years.
Nonsense! His play has declined greatly since he first joined the Rangers. If you look it up, after 1 game he was on pace for a 246 goal season... and how many did he end up with? a mere 21! and this year...? 17!

I think we can all agree that this sharp drop-off in production is unacceptable, and he must be moved at once.

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Thank God for Shane Doan. We'd seemingly exhausted discussing every realistic and even some not realistic options to upgrade the roster (and it's not even July 1st!).

My $0.02...he's exactly what the Rangers need and will probably get too much money. Not sure I'd want to spend $5MM for 2 (maybe 3) years of Doan. Next!

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06-26-2012, 06:29 PM
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Take the cap hit Nash would take plus a bit and sign Doan (2 years) + Whitney (1 year). Sell them on the ability to keep playing together. Move Dubinsky for a 2013 1st if cap space is necessary.

Significant offense upgrade for next year while leaving flexibility for 2013 UFA and not gutting our future.

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06-26-2012, 06:31 PM
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Try and keep this Pearson crap to a minimum, please... it may be the offseason thread, but it should be within the realm of reality.

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how much would Totoo cost though? I mean if its 2 million Prust is already a good fit on this team.........anyone else hear Gaustad and Gil off the market soon?
$1.5-$1.7M for Tootoo at MOST. Could get to $2M though if some team is dumb enough.

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Should be pursuing Doan in that case. Top priority, or one of the top ones.

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