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06-27-2012, 05:09 PM
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Semin on the Penguins? Please...no...

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06-27-2012, 05:16 PM
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They work multiple phones on July 1st.
They work multiple people on July 1st.

Shero is not the only person who's calling to FAs/agents.

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06-27-2012, 05:21 PM
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RT @cotsonika: Hear owners want to limit contracts to six years.

Probably the last chance to sign anyone to lifetime deal.

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06-27-2012, 05:22 PM
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Good to hear that Shero is in on Semin.

Top priority is obviously the back end but theres not much there available beyond Suter. Next should be a winger for Sid, preferably a right hander that can also be used on the PP beyond Parise of course.

During the season i think the priority remains watching/assessing this defense and suring it up if need be. Even trading some of our prospects if you have to.

ETA: If Parise doesn't come that certainly opens up the possibilty of Sid and Geno penalty killing which i wouldn't mind at all.


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06-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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He got overpaid, and on top of that got term. Awesome deal for him.
he woulda got term and 5 mil from lots of teams. people are talking about garrion getting 5 mil so wideman getting that is not surprising.

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06-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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Dreger just reported someone's looking to get his rights. Hopefully it's Detroit. (A. Semin)

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06-27-2012, 05:28 PM
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I think the only way Shero is interested in Semin is if theres no chance we can get either Parise or Suter.

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06-27-2012, 05:33 PM
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Shero said, he's not gonna trade for anyone's rights.. just sayin'

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06-27-2012, 05:36 PM
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Sort-of hoping Detroit takes the initiative here. That would at least put us in a driver seat. However, they could get Suter and Semin in only 4 days. that would be hardcore for Detroit.

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06-27-2012, 05:39 PM
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I hate when people say things like this. Every year it's the same thing, then people start getting signed and then it's "OMG it's a weak FA class this year, wait till next year" all over again.
That’s a great counter…

I mean, was that even necessary? Free agent classes are routinely thin and thick – just look at any year Brad Richards gets a contract. 2012 is rather thin; add to that it’s fairly uncommon to have two of the bigger powerhouses – Pit and Det – in such positions of wide open cap space. 2013 is thicker. Perhaps any sort of reasonable counter would have involved showing how many free agents for 2012 got signed prior to free agency, to show how many potential free agents in 2013 wouldn't make it to market. But by all means, berate me and quote me as using childish acronyms like OMG and IDK. You’re so above me.

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My question is, are both of them an upgrade over Martin to be getting paid more than him and if so, how much of an upgrade are they? I would prefer Garrison over Carle, but I heard he might get close to $6M on the market!
I see Carle play quite a bit and I have to admit he’s a tough one to figure out. His puck-moving skills and passing are better than Martin, but he’s just as weak in front of the net, and even if he hurts you offensively (playing against him), he’s a joy to play against. He lets guys have liberties in front of the net, is rarely physical, and just doesn’t really have a mean bone in his body.

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Funny how Syomin has been a recent topic, and now the Pens are interested. Sometimes I think that the media reads these boards and then regurgitates the contents to the masses.
Ha, I’d do it if I was a writer. You’d basically be reading what a majority of your reading base is thinking. Then you can play to their emotions.

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06-27-2012, 05:39 PM
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Sort-of hoping Detroit takes the initiative here. That would at least put us in a driver seat. However, they could get Suter and Semin in only 4 days. that would be hardcore for Detroit.
I hope they acquire Semin's rights. Would make up the instant front-runner for Parise. Suter is still up for grabs. It'd be funny if they got Parise and we got Suter. They don't have the replacement on D and lose big time IMO.

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06-27-2012, 05:41 PM
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Any interest in Garrison or Carle?
Holy mother of God, did the price in Suter just go up. Garrison must be doing cartwheels right now as well.

Suter is getting 7.5 to 8, and Garrison is getting at least 6.

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06-27-2012, 05:46 PM
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I think Bryan Allen would be a good fit. The Penguins definitely need a big, gritty D man. I doubt Allen would be that expensive, maybe $3.5M - $4M. We need a D like that, he's pretty quick for his size.

EDIT: But from what I hear, the Pens top interest is a top winger for Sid and a top defenseman to pair with Letang. I don't think Shero will target Bryan Allen.

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06-27-2012, 05:52 PM
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I hope Detroit sign Semin too. Helps take them off Parise in a way.

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06-27-2012, 05:53 PM
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Mark Madden wants p.a. Parenteau

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06-27-2012, 05:55 PM
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Mark Madden wants p.a. Parenteau
I wouldn't say no, but not until all other options have been exhausted and only for a couple of million.

I think he could be living off this past seasons numbers with his next contract.

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06-27-2012, 05:56 PM
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he woulda got term and 5 mil from lots of teams. people are talking about garrion getting 5 mil so wideman getting that is not surprising.
He was a 3rd pairing defenseman in Washington this past season. Garrison and Carle (who are really the only two defensemen left), are both better, IMO. I don't think he would have got 5 years and 5+ million from a lot of teams, unless a lot of teams were downright desperate. Giving him a deal like that is piss poor cap management, I think.

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06-27-2012, 05:56 PM
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Not to burst any bubbles, but Detroit has the space for Semin, Suter and Parise. They have 24M free, 12 forwards and 5 D signed.

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06-27-2012, 05:58 PM
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I hope they acquire Semin's rights. Would make up the instant front-runner for Parise. Suter is still up for grabs. It'd be funny if they got Parise and we got Suter. They don't have the replacement on D and lose big time IMO.
I don't think you will be seeing a deal between the gmrs and gmgm. Mcphee seemed alil bitter at the draft when interviewed said that he had inquired about staal on Friday as well and was told he was not availible. And never got a call back that that's changed. I don't know why he even cares think it was no secret jordan wanted to go to carolina. Maybe he's mad he was dealt to his division. I dunno he just seemed awfully snarky cause he brought it up himself. They asked him what his thought were about the trade and that was his response.

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06-27-2012, 06:01 PM
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Oops thought you said I hope we aquire his rights. Sorry my bad.

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06-27-2012, 06:03 PM
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Not to burst any bubbles, but Detroit has the space for Semin, Suter and Parise. They have 24M free, 12 forwards and 5 D signed.
What about their goalies?

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06-27-2012, 06:04 PM
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What about their goalies?
both signed next year still.

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06-27-2012, 06:04 PM
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He was a 3rd pairing defenseman in Washington this past season. Garrison and Carle (who are really the only two defensemen left), are both better, IMO. I don't think he would have got 5 years and 5+ million from a lot of teams, unless a lot of teams were downright desperate. Giving him a deal like that is piss poor cap management, I think.
Maybe you are confusing Wideman with someone else? He got 46 points and played 24 minutes a night which was tops for the Caps last season by over 2 minutes per game. Also made the all star team.

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06-27-2012, 06:06 PM
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both signed next year still.
Wouldn't be surprised to see them go hard for all three then.

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06-27-2012, 06:08 PM
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Wouldn't be surprised to see them go hard for all three then.
agreed. after 1 rough season of only being a pretty good team, they could instantly "rebuild" into a top team in the league this Sunday.

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