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06-23-2012, 03:55 PM
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Feaster: He's everything we've always wanted

He likes talent. Pure skill.

He radiates the prospect of drafting offensive forwards more then defensive ones.

When drafting dmen Feaster would rather take offensivly skilled blueliners, and if they aren't offensive then they need to be good value picks. Ala all the Vlasic comparison picks in this draft(solid 2 way Top 4 blueliners)

If Darryl had still been in Cowtown we would have NONE of Baertschi, Granlund, Gaudreau, Jankowski etc.

For years fans have cried for change, for more youth, skill and a modern way of drafting based on finesse, excitement and offense.

Well we got it all with Feaster and Co.(Weisbrod, Hartley, Conroy etc etc)

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06-23-2012, 03:56 PM
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He likes talent. Pure skill.

He radiates the prospect of drafting offensive forwards more then defensive ones.

When drafting dmen Feaster would rather take offensivly skilled blueliners, and if they aren't offensive then they need to be good value picks. Ala all the Vlasic comparison picks in this draft(solid 2 way Top 4 blueliners)

If Darryl had still been in Cowtown we would have NONE of Baertschi, Granlund, Gaudreau, Jankowski etc.

For years fans have cried for change, for more youth, skill and a modern way of drafting based on finesse, excitement and offense.

Well we got it all with Feaster and Co.(Weisbrod, Hartley, Conroy etc etc)
I agree...mostly. Couldn't this of gone in the Fire Feaster thread as a counter argument though?

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06-23-2012, 04:01 PM
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Why does the Fire Feaster thread get to rue the day?

Let that trolling crap die out. I've been a season ticket holder for over ten years, been with hf since 2002. And the opinion that Feaster is what we've always wanted is a better thread to encourage then that troll crap.

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I think we are seeing a culture change in our club which is positive step..

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Totally agree. Feaster's not afraid to take the small stature, but skilled guys

God forbid if Sutter is still around

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I think we are seeing a culture change in our club which is positive step..
This. I think Jay has seen the inside of the locker room, realized there is a culture problem here and decided to change that.

Hopefully he wants to get rid of complacency, and replace it with skill and consistency. All of his picks have been based off skill, and determination. Not size, grinding ability, or western canada blood lines.

I'm willing to let Feaster have his time with the team and see what he can do.

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06-23-2012, 05:03 PM
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Totally agree. Feaster's not afraid to take the small stature, but skilled guys

God forbid if Sutter is still around
Yes because 6'2"-6'3" is tiny.... Honestly, we took a kid who played Midget AA. Let's see him play some competition that currently are better hockey players than me before we start calling him anything. Most of the posters on this board are better hockey players than the ones this kid was playing last year.

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06-23-2012, 05:08 PM
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Yes because 6'2"-6'3" is tiny.... Honestly, we took a kid who played Midget AA. Let's see him play some competition that currently are better hockey players than me before we start calling him anything. Most of the posters on this board are better hockey players than the ones this kid was playing last year.
You forget he was 5'8 when he was 15 which was about his midget years. That is why he never went all that far.

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06-23-2012, 05:36 PM
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Feaster has brought in sleep specialists, sports psychologists, Weisbrod, Hartley, Conroy...this is a top to bottom change.

We went from being a team run by Sutter in an "old school" fashion to being on the cutting edge of prospects, development etc.

It's almost culture shock to the fans. But I really think it's happening.

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06-23-2012, 06:17 PM
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We went from being a team run by Sutter in an "old school" fashion to being on the cutting edge of prospects, development etc.

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He just won the cup...so his madness was not all wrong...maybe the problem is still here in the dressing room?

anyway agreed with Feaster's philosophy...not that I agreed with all the players he drafted but just because Sutter's drafting record for the FLames sucks

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06-23-2012, 07:12 PM
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Yes because 6'2"-6'3" is tiny.... Honestly, we took a kid who played Midget AA. Let's see him play some competition that currently are better hockey players than me before we start calling him anything. Most of the posters on this board are better hockey players than the ones this kid was playing last year.
I believe he was referring to Sven, Granlund, and specifically Gaudreau.

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Is this Feaster's second draft or third?

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Is this Feaster's second draft or third?
Second as GM

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You forget he was 5'8 when he was 15 which was about his midget years. That is why he never went all that far.
I don't forget. I never knew until yesterday. Just like all of you, the kid wasn't even on my radar as a top pick. I was hoping like hell we'd get a chance to take Teravainen, somehow we'd move something to grab the 6th overall and get him. I was literally giddy with joy when he landed in our lap. Then I saw Bettman make the walk...

After my initial shock and horror, I was pleasantly surprised when Maatta was still there at 21. He was expected to go between 10-15. I was hoping if we didn't move up we'd get one of him, Ceci or Faska.

So no, I didn't forget how tall he was when he was 15. Just like every person here I'd never heard of him when he was 15. And had only seen his name in passing when considering guys we should take with our 3rd round pick. Certainly not our first rounder.

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I don't forget. I never knew until yesterday. Just like all of you, the kid wasn't even on my radar as a top pick. I was hoping like hell we'd get a chance to take Teravainen, somehow we'd move something to grab the 6th overall and get him. I was literally giddy with joy when he landed in our lap. Then I saw Bettman make the walk...

After my initial shock and horror, I was pleasantly surprised when Maatta was still there at 21. He was expected to go between 10-15. I was hoping if we didn't move up we'd get one of him, Ceci or Faska.

So no, I didn't forget how tall he was when he was 15. Just like every person here I'd never heard of him when he was 15. And had only seen his name in passing when considering guys we should take with our 3rd round pick. Certainly not our first rounder.
Ok so you didn't know? I don't what your point is... Feaster and Weisbrod really like the guy and have a lot of confidence in him so why not at least give him a chance and see how the entire draft class turns out before judging players.

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I don't forget. I never knew until yesterday. Just like all of you, the kid wasn't even on my radar as a top pick. I was hoping like hell we'd get a chance to take Teravainen, somehow we'd move something to grab the 6th overall and get him. I was literally giddy with joy when he landed in our lap. Then I saw Bettman make the walk...

After my initial shock and horror, I was pleasantly surprised when Maatta was still there at 21. He was expected to go between 10-15. I was hoping if we didn't move up we'd get one of him, Ceci or Faska.

So no, I didn't forget how tall he was when he was 15. Just like every person here I'd never heard of him when he was 15. And had only seen his name in passing when considering guys we should take with our 3rd round pick. Certainly not our first rounder.
Show me one mock on this board where Jankowski was a third round pick.

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I don't forget. I never knew until yesterday. Just like all of you, the kid wasn't even on my radar as a top pick. I was hoping like hell we'd get a chance to take Teravainen, somehow we'd move something to grab the 6th overall and get him. I was literally giddy with joy when he landed in our lap. Then I saw Bettman make the walk...

After my initial shock and horror, I was pleasantly surprised when Maatta was still there at 21. He was expected to go between 10-15. I was hoping if we didn't move up we'd get one of him, Ceci or Faska.

So no, I didn't forget how tall he was when he was 15. Just like every person here I'd never heard of him when he was 15. And had only seen his name in passing when considering guys we should take with our 3rd round pick. Certainly not our first rounder.
Seriously many mock drafts had him as a first rounder you are so negative it is painful.

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Feaster has brought in sleep specialists, sports psychologists, Weisbrod, Hartley, Conroy...this is a top to bottom change.

We went from being a team run by Sutter in an "old school" fashion to being on the cutting edge of prospects, development etc.

It's almost culture shock to the fans. But I really think it's happening.
This. I really appreciated the remark about top to bottom. It really can't be emphasized enough that the change in decision makers will yeild a change in product.

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Almost a bit of an ass-kissing tone, but don't shoot! I do agree that Feaster really has made quite the impact given the kind of ****hole we were stuck in with Sutter's removal.

If somehow we keep Feaster for a couple more years, we'll hardly be able to recognize this team's identity.

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Seriously many mock drafts had him as a first rounder you are so negative it is painful.
Yep, I remember a mock that had him at 18 to Chicago. Several had him at the end of the first round.

When the only real knock on a player is the competition he played against, you really cant complain. The skills are there, the development is not. Give it a year and we'll see how people react to this pick.

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what i don't get if you say he likes skill so much is why didn't he stay put and draft tuevo instead of a project?

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what i don't get if you say he likes skill so much is why didn't he stay put and draft tuevo instead of a project?
He said the scouts feel that Janko could be something special aka the comment about being the best player in 10 years. According to our scouts we may have taken the most skilled player.

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He said the scouts feel that Janko could be something special aka the comment about being the best player in 10 years. According to our scouts we may have taken the most skilled player.
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He just won the cup...so his madness was not all wrong...maybe the problem is still here in the dressing room?

anyway agreed with Feaster's philosophy...not that I agreed with all the players he drafted but just because Sutter's drafting record for the FLames sucks
I was happy the day that Sutter was let go as we were considered the joke of the NHL in term of our prospect pool. Sutter did not really help make our prospect pool any better then it was before he came. The only players that got attention from Sutter draft was Phaneuf and Backlund.
All the players that Sutter brought into the organization he got lucky and the only player that really worked out was Kipper. Sutter had the chance to make the team younger and use the players we have in our prospect pool, but decided to go with players who were more NHL ready or have experience at the NHL level already. I am not sure where I heard this rumor from that when Sutter was asked to coach the Kings he mentioned that he likes to coach a younger team which LA was compared to Calgary. He was the GM of Calgary for a few years and had that chance to make the team younger, but ended up choosing older not very talented players and spending right to the cap.

What a lot of people do not realize is that Feaster came to a team that had cap problems, too many no trade clauses or no movement clauses on contracts and lots of older players on the team. Now that you look at the team and what Feaster has done, I am surprised he has done so much in such a short period of time. First of he decided to change how we draft by hiring proper scouts who can look at more than just North American hockey league to help find the top players for this team. He traded some players such as Reghre to get younger and is using players that are already in our prospect pool. Such as T.J Brodie, Greg Nemisz and Leland Irving to help improve our team. I believe he has drafted quite well only time will tell if his drafting skills help the team. He has even tried to get big name players to join our team such as Brad Richards. Now this season he has lots of UFA in players like Olli Jokinen, Cory Sarich, Scott Hanna, David Moss, Lee Stempniak, Tom Kostopoulos.

The advantage with so many UFA is that by not signing most of the UFA he has lots of cash on hand to bring in one or two top talent and a few young prospects to add to our prospect pool or some young players who can come in a right away to be on the team. Even now we can trade some players that we have on the roster. Lot of talk as has been to trade Jaybo. which I would like to keep at the moment. The reason is I do not know of any players right now who can play the minutes he does and play as well as he can on this type of team. I would keep Kipper and Iginla until draft day and if we do not look like we can make the playoffs then I would trade them at that time we will get good return.
Currently for the first time I am excited for this season to start.


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