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06-25-2012, 02:55 PM
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Paul Stastny to Dallas

With the (early) departure of Mike Ribeiro, there's a hole at #2C, and money burning a hole through our new owner's pocket.

On the Stars board, Paul Stastny's name has come up a few times as a possible target this summer.

What would it take to bring Stastny (and his contract) to the Stars?

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A #1 d-man or a top line winger

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Loui Eriksson
or Jamie Benn. (or is Benn playing center now?)

Don't think the Stars would be happy parting with either guy.

They'd probably prefer to offer up Oleksiak plus a pick which just doesn't help us so....pass.

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A #1 d-man or a top line winger
Pretty much this although there is no D man in Dallas worth Staz

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Not really interested in Stastny, and his asking price is probably too high. Colorado has no more use for prospects, and Dallas hangs onto both Benn and Eriksson.

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I'd have some interest in Goligoski, but by himself he wouldn't be valuable enough. And I'm really not interested in going into next season with O'Reilly/Duchene as our top 2 centers while we have the chance to keep Staz around and make sure everything goes alright.

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A #1 d-man or a top line winger
Bingo, aka pieces Dallas won't want to part with for Stastny.

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A #1 d-man or a top line winger
I doubt that. Statsny hasn't been a PPG centre for 2 years, there is simply no way he gets a player more valuable than him.

Avalanche may want that but they would never get it. A couple of prospects and a draft pick could probaboly get him.

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Benn for Stastny and Tyson Barrie?

Eriksson for Stastny and a 3rd?

Not interested in anything else that you have really =\

And those are your core pieces, which I bet you don't want to move at all.

Dallas and Colorado aren't ideal trading partners

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I doubt that. Statsny hasn't been a PPG centre for 2 years, there is simply no way he gets a player more valuable than him.

Avalanche may want that but they would never get it. A couple of prospects and a draft pick could probaboly get him.
We don't want futures.

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Why the hell is he so expensive...?

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A #1 d-man or a top line winger
We don't really have either of those things. Is there anything else I can interest you in?

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It won't happen now, could've happened 2 yrs ago. I'm guessing Stars are relying on Faksa and whoever else to develop.

Is Goligoski a left handed dman? Possibly him+ but Avs fans though we're not under the delusion that Stasny is currently worth a tonne, we like him.

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I doubt that. Statsny hasn't been a PPG centre for 2 years, there is simply no way he gets a player more valuable than him.

Avalanche may want that but they would never get it. A couple of prospects and a draft pick could probaboly get him.
Other teams may want that but they're not going to get it.

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Why the hell is he so expensive...?
Former PPG #1b Center with playmaking abilities and is reliable defensively. I know he had some bad seasons recently, but the skill is there. The work ethic is there.

Or do you mean his contract?

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Why the hell is he so expensive...?
This might answer your question :

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...65&postcount=1

I calculated all that last summer before last season so his PPG probably slipped down to 0.88 or something like that but still, that's some pretty good company.

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Benn for Stastny and Tyson Barrie?

Eriksson for Stastny and a 3rd?

Not interested in anything else that you have really =\

And those are your core pieces, which I bet you don't want to move at all.

Dallas and Colorado aren't ideal trading partners
Agreed

Dallas should just be patient.. Eakin will turn some heads this year..

If stastny is available u bet Toronto is in the bidding

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Benn or eriksson > stastny

Dallas should just be patient.. Eakin will turn some heads this year..
That's probably why I added Tyson Barrie / a 3rd. o.O

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Why the hell is he so expensive...?
Because, regardless of what anyone thinks about his skill level, he is the Avs #1 C for now. He has been a PPG producer in the past, and the end of last season showed that he could return to that form, with McGinn and Jones as his wingers.

The Avs need a top line scoring W, and a top pairing LHD. They have a plethora of young players, but they need proven guys. They have a bunch of young D just waiting for a chance in the NHL. They have some of the deepest G prospects in the league. About the only place they aren't deep is F, and yet they have a few guys who, given another year or two of development, could find a spot on the team.

But, with the young talent currently playing in the NHL, it's not like the Avs are going to have a bunch of available spots.

So, if you want what the Avs have (Stastny) you have to give them what they need, not what you think it should be worth.

With all that being said, I don't see any teams giving up a 1st pairing LHD or a top scoring W for Stastny. And the Avs will be more than happy to keep him.

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I doubt that. Statsny hasn't been a PPG centre for 2 years, there is simply no way he gets a player more valuable than him.

Avalanche may want that but they would never get it. A couple of prospects and a draft pick could probaboly get him.
No it wouldn't. It doesn't matter what your perceived value of him is, he isn't a #2 center and wouldn't be moved for that low of an asking price. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to realize Stazz would see huge point increases playing with Ryder, Benn, Erikson, Ott, or even Morrow, compared to what he has played with the past few years.

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Because, regardless of what anyone thinks about his skill level, he is the Avs #1 C for now. He has been a PPG producer in the past, and the end of last season showed that he could return to that form, with McGinn and Jones as his wingers.

The Avs need a top line scoring W, and a top pairing LHD. They have a plethora of young players, but they need proven guys. They have a bunch of young D just waiting for a chance in the NHL. They have some of the deepest G prospects in the league. About the only place they aren't deep is F, and yet they have a few guys who, given another year or two of development, could find a spot on the team.

But, with the young talent currently playing in the NHL, it's not like the Avs are going to have a bunch of available spots.

So, if you want what the Avs have (Stastny) you have to give them what they need, not what you think it should be worth.

With all that being said, I don't see any teams giving up a 1st pairing LHD or a top scoring W for Stastny. And the Avs will be more than happy to keep him.
You're making FAR TOO MUCH SENSE!!!!

Start with Bozak and go from there.

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I think a package valued like the one for Jordan Staal is going to be what eventually gets traded for Stastny (if he does get traded) based on a few assumptions:

1) Dallas doesn't really have what we're looking for in defensemen and they'd be reluctant to trade any wingers we liked. From the Stars side, I can't see them giving up any building blocks of their franchise for Stastny (and they shouldn't - he's not worth it compared to Benn and Eriksson)

2) That brings us to draft picks/prospects. Which I think is the solution

3) My fellow Avs fans will give you his PPG numbers, but they've declined and like Staal you're talking about a player who is 1-2 years away from impending UFA.

The real question is if Stastny/Avs management want to continue the relationship and at what price. Most Avs fans would like the salary at or below what he is currently making. If they can't exchange contract numbers until next year, then he's likely off the block until then. But if he did go, I think you're looking at a combo of draft picks/prospects from the Stars. Then ultimately I think you come full circle again - not sure the Avs really need picks/prospects as much as someone who could step in right now NHL-ready.

Based on all that, I just don't think the Stars are a good fit. I think there's a lot of teams out there that could fill our needs better than the Stars. Sorry.

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I really wonder why we keep seeing these proposals for Stas though. The Avs would obviously be selling low on him (as you Stars fans have shown us through the undervaluing of him). He could very well go back to PPG this coming season. Think of how much he'd be worth at that point? Probably a lot more than he is right now, to say the least. Avs aren't gonna trade a good player after a bad season for the value of the bad season. Get real

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