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06-25-2012, 04:52 PM
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Calgary-Ottawa

To Calgary:

Mika Zibanejad/Jakob Silfverberg
2013 2nd Round Pick

To Ottawa:

Mark Giordano
Mikael Backlund/Greg Nemisz

This was being discussed in a different thread a while back between me and a Sens fan. We couldnt quite find a fit because in order for the Flames to give up Giordano the price would be high, but other than these two prospects there is no interest from the Flames. The reason Ottawa does this is the fact that they could use a great two-way LH D-man to play with Karlsson.
I made the comparison to Keith-Seabrook: Not in their styles, but in the way they can control a game is a very attractive option for an up and coming team.

I was told that the values just were a little off, and that Silfverberg may hold a higher value to sens fans than Zibanejad. Which is why the picks and prospects have been added.

I would probrobly do Backlund if it was Silfverberg and the 2nd.
But if it was Zibanejad I would drop Backs off and offer Nemisz.

I wanted to see if both Fanbases could come into an agreement. Modify it as you like, I just think it is a good fit for both teams.

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06-25-2012, 04:54 PM
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Not a chance

Soon we won't have Zibby anyways. He'll be in Columbus

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06-25-2012, 04:55 PM
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Ottawa throws up on the phone.

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06-25-2012, 04:58 PM
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Gio can get more then that.

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06-25-2012, 05:00 PM
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The value isn't too bad, but I don't think Ottawa needs a guy like Giordano as much now.

Giordano will likely be better than what Ottawa could acquire in UFA, but I don't think the difference will be a top 5 prospect.

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06-25-2012, 05:03 PM
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Gio can get more then that.
No he cant

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Dont need Backlund.
Could use Giordano but not at that price.

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No he cant
#2 defenceman just entering his prime who does it all and signed to a ridiculously good contract. Not good enough to enter the conversation for Mika Zibanejad, a prospect who failed to make any moves forward last season or break an NHL roster.

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06-25-2012, 05:29 PM
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No he cant
Yes he can, this package would never land Gio and we are not trading him unless it is an over payment.

This package is crap from OTT.

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06-25-2012, 05:32 PM
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Don't think we should be giving up either Silfverberg or Zibanejad right now unless it's a deal we simply can't pass up. And this isn't the deal we can't pass up.

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Yes he can, this package would never land Gio and we are not trading him unless it is an over payment.

This package is crap from OTT.
you're right. Eklund right.

Throw in Iginla then we'll talk

Zibby is our future number 2 center behind Spezza. A center you guys are craving for. I don't see this as 'crap'

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06-25-2012, 05:33 PM
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Yes he can, this package would never land Gio and we are not trading him unless it is an over payment.

This package is crap from OTT.
Yikes, that shows you have no idea what you're talking about.

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06-25-2012, 05:34 PM
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For what Ottawa needs *Not trashing on Giordano* But I wouldn't pay that for him. Let alone we're adding a 2nd, why?

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#2 defenceman just entering his prime who does it all and signed to a ridiculously good contract. Not good enough to enter the conversation for Mika Zibanejad, a prospect who failed to make any moves forward last season or break an NHL roster.

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06-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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No thanks from this Flames fan. Gio > Zibby. Backlund > 2nd

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No thanks from this Flames fan. Gio > Zibby. Backlund > 2nd
Interesting. But, with Ottawa's defensive prospects, we value Zibby > Gio.

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06-25-2012, 05:40 PM
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I can certainly see Calgary fans saying no to this proposal, but I don't understand them bashing the value. It's pretty much perfect. Top 5 prospect + 2nd round pick for a good, young D-man.

Personally, if Zibanejad is moving, I'd rather add to him and get Yandle.

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This was being discussed in a different thread a while back between me and a Sens fan. We couldnt quite find a fit because in order for the Flames to give up Giordano the price would be high, but other than these two prospects there is no interest from the Flames.
And you're right, the Flames have little to no interest in giving up Giordano unless there's a reason to trade him, which would mean that a serviceable defenseman and a fairly decent prospect or pick is coming back in return.

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The reason Ottawa does this is the fact that they could use a great two-way LH D-man to play with Karlsson.
Okay, sure.

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I made the comparison to Keith-Seabrook: Not in their styles, but in the way they can control a game is a very attractive option for an up and coming team.
Huh? Mark Giordano can control a game? lol no, and this from someone who watched 83 Flames games last season. (including preseason)

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I was told that the values just were a little off, and that Silfverberg may hold a higher value to sens fans than Zibanejad. Which is why the picks and prospects have been added.
A little?

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I would probrobly do Backlund if it was Silfverberg and the 2nd.
But if it was Zibanejad I would drop Backs off and offer Nemisz.
For the package offered, Giordano for Zibanejad & 2013 2nd is probably what it would take, subject to Calgary signing a UFA defenseman first. Calgary doesn't add Backlund or Nemisz though.

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I wanted to see if both Fanbases could come into an agreement. Modify it as you like, I just think it is a good fit for both teams.
By the tone of this thread so far, I think both fanbases agree that it's a bad deal for both teams.

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Interesting. But, with Ottawa's defensive prospects, we value Zibby > Gio.
Understandable. Gio is already a top pairing guy. I don't think giving him up for a talented, yet unproven Zibby would interest a lot of Flames fans. If the Flames did totally blow it up though,

Gio for Zibby could be the basis of a deal.

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I don't think Ottawa says yes. As much as Giordano could help us, Zibanejad will help more IMO. Also, we don't actually have a 2013 2nd IIRC, traded it for Bishop.

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Yeah well Flames fans think J-Bo is a top pairing guy, I don't trust their judgement on Gio.

Gio is not worth a 6th overall caliber prospect+. Not even close

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Yeah well Flames fans think J-Bo is a top pairing guy, I don't trust their judgement on Gio.

Gio is not worth a 6th overall caliber prospect+. Not even close
Find another team to troll bud.

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Find another team to troll bud.
truth hurts

By all means Calgary, keep doing what you're doing, it's working perfectly

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truth hurts

By all means Calgary, keep doing what you're doing, it's working perfectly
So we should give away a great all around #2 defender on a great contract for a guy who has never played in the NHL and a lower pick. We should award you with a gold medal for this thought process.

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truth hurts

By all means Calgary, keep doing what you're doing, it's working perfectly
Have a good day, and oh yah, did you mean the Flames?

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So we should give away a great all around #2 defender on a great contract for a guy who has never played in the NHL and a lower pick. We should award you with a gold medal for this thought process.
He must be a kid, and a passionate sens fan. But still a kid.

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