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06-25-2012, 12:10 PM
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CBJ & EDM Likely Trade Partners?

Both organizations need to improve, fortunately for one another its on separate ends of the ice. This is where I see a potential match. Columbus has a strength on the blueline, something Edmonton is lacking. More to the point Edmonton is loaded with highly skilled forwards, something Columbus sorely needs, especially with the inevitable departure of Rick Nash.

The forwards that would seem to be options if the right package was put together are: Omark, Gagner, Paajarvi, and the long shot being Eberle.

The Defensemen that Columbus has to offer would be Methot, Savard, Golubef, Moore, and the long shot being Tyutin.

Columbus would seem to be further away crime contention, making them much more flexible as far as moving parts in a trade. So here are a few ideas:

Methot & 2013 5RD pick for Gagner

Golubef for Omark

Savard, Holden & 2013 3RD pick for Paajarvi

Moore, Calvert, Kings 2013 1RD pick acquired in the Carter trade for Eberle

What do you think, any potential here?

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06-25-2012, 12:13 PM
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Methot is a $3M 3rd pairing defender and you think that'll bring Gagner? I know Gagner's name has fallen out of favor around here (not even sure why TBH), but he's still worth much more than that. And a 5th (or 5rd) round pick doesn't begin to cover the difference.

Eberle isn't going to be traded for anything in the Columbus system, definitely not for that package.

The only deal that has even a hope of going through is the Omark deal. Everything else HEAVILY favors the Jackets.

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Both organizations need to improve, fortunately for one another its on separate ends of the ice. This is where I see a potential match. Columbus has a strength on the blueline, something Edmonton is lacking. More to the point Edmonton is loaded with highly skilled forwards, something Columbus sorely needs, especially with the inevitable departure of Rick Nash.

The forwards that would seem to be options if the right package was put together are: Omark, Gagner, Paajarvi, and the long shot being Eberle.

The Defensemen that Columbus has to offer would be Methot, Savard, Golubef, Moore, and the long shot being Tyutin.

Columbus would seem to be further away crime contention, making them much more flexible as far as moving parts in a trade. So here are a few ideas:

Methot & 2013 5RD pick for Gagner

Golubef for Omark

Savard, Holden & 2013 3RD pick for Paajarvi

Moore, Calvert, Kings 2013 1RD pick acquired in the Carter trade for Eberle

What do you think, any potential here?
Is that a joke ?? No Way Edmonton even picks up the phone.

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Both organizations need to improve, fortunately for one another its on separate ends of the ice. This is where I see a potential match. Columbus has a strength on the blueline, something Edmonton is lacking. More to the point Edmonton is loaded with highly skilled forwards, something Columbus sorely needs, especially with the inevitable departure of Rick Nash.

The forwards that would seem to be options if the right package was put together are: Omark, Gagner, Paajarvi, and the long shot being Eberle.

The Defensemen that Columbus has to offer would be Methot, Savard, Golubef, Moore, and the long shot being Tyutin.

Columbus would seem to be further away crime contention, making them much more flexible as far as moving parts in a trade. So here are a few ideas:

Methot & 2013 5RD pick for Gagner
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Golubef for Omark

Savard, Holden & 2013 3RD pick for Paajarvi
Moore, Calvert, Kings 2013 1RD pick acquired in the Carter trade for Eberle

What do you think, any potential here?
These two i would consider. The other two are to be honest are a little insulting. Particularly the last one.

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06-25-2012, 12:17 PM
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Tambo is in a strong position here. We don't need to eat Methot's salary if the asking price will be that high.

I'd give a 3rd plus Omark and that's it,.

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i dont really want make any trades until i see what we get back with Nash trade. our team will be drastically different after that.

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when the Oilers drafted Yakupov, the immediate reaction on Edmonton sports radio was that Hemsky would be moved for a dman. Columbus was talked about as the likely destination.

I have no idea what fair value is but Hemsky for a Columbus dman is being predicted by people who are in the loop.

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i dont really want make any trades until i see what we get back with Nash trade. our team will be drastically different after that.
I agree. The goal in the Nash deal should be to get the best return possible regardless of position. After that's done, then the focus should be on filling holes. Unfortunately, that pretty much takes them out of the free agent market since Nash probably won't be moved until well after July 1.

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Only way I could imagine Eberle going to Columbus would be Murray ++++++++++++

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when the Oilers drafted Yakupov, the immediate reaction on Edmonton sports radio was that Hemsky would be moved for a dman. Columbus was talked about as the likely destination.

I have no idea what fair value is but Hemsky for a Columbus dman is being predicted by people who are in the loop.
I doubt that. Columbus' blueline is hurting enough already as it is.

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I doubt that. Columbus' blueline is hurting enough already as it is.
It's hurting?

Johnson-Wiz
Tyutin-Nikitin
Moore-Methot

Way better than EDM. And that's without prospects(Murray)

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I doubt that. Columbus' blueline is hurting enough already as it is.
They seem to be set on D now.

Nikitin-Tyutin pairing is as good as Smid-Petry
Add in Wisneiwski, JJ and now R.Murray and it looks set

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I think Moore will be traded, the Murray pick and last years additions of Wiz and JJ make him the most expendable.

A Moore for Hemsky deal makes the most sense for both teams. Moore should be able to come in and contribute and Hemmer can be a 70 pt player again, no doubt in my mind.

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I think Moore will be traded, the Murray pick and last years additions of Wiz and JJ make him the most expendable.

A Moore for Hemsky deal makes the most sense for both teams. Moore should be able to come in and contribute and Hemmer can be a 70 pt player again, no doubt in my mind.
Hemmer at 70 pts again without injuries in a season, that isn't happening.

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Hemmer at 70 pts again without injuries in a season, that isn't happening.
That is entirely plausible. He has had numerous seasons at just below a PPG on some horrendous Oilers teams. If he gets significant minutes with other skilled players, 70 points is easily attainable.

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Gaborik at 70 pts again without injuries in a season, that isn't happening.
Where have people heard this before

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I was saying including his injury-prone ways, That he wouldn't be able to play long enough in a season to get it.

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I do believe the Oilers need a top pairing D, but not the scraps and prospects these proposals offer. IMO I believe the Oilers will stand pat right now, I cannot see them getting a D better then what they have now and will wait to see how some of their prospects preform at TC. The OP is dead wrong about Columbus and Edmonton being likely trading partners.

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I just have to re-iterate the implausibility of the Eberle trade. To get Eberle, one of your top 2 D have to be part of the conversation. Not the scraps offered.

To me personally, Eberle is the most untouchable Oiler. I know many have Hall there for his passion and possible future captaincy, but it is Eberle to me. The guy has magic in his hands unlike anything I have seen from an Oiler since the 80s.

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I do believe the Oilers need a top pairing D, but not the scraps and prospects these proposals offer. IMO I believe the Oilers will stand pat right now, I cannot see them getting a D better then what they have now and will wait to see how some of their prospects preform at TC. The OP is dead wrong about Columbus and Edmonton being likely trading partners.
I disagree, I think they make good trading partners as CBJ will have Methot to move and EDM could use him.

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I doubt that. Columbus' blueline is hurting enough already as it is.
Huh? You watching the NHL or the Columbus Owls from the 1970's?

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The oilers don't need any more third pairing defensemen. Whitney, Sutton, Potter, Teubert cover that pairing. What we need is another decent top four option, a number three guy really, one who can move the puck well while still being solid defensively.

Smid - Petry
???? - Schultz
Whitney - Sutton/Potter

I could see EDM being interested in a deal involving Nikitin and Hemsky.

Hemsky
Plante
Martindale

for

Nikitin
Goulobef

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I do think there is a potential match here but it's crazy to think we'll have some constructive discussions with proposals between these two teams (on HF that is). I don't know if the OP is an Edmonton fan or what but I don't think those proposals work as constructed but I do think the pieces in play (aside from Eberle - as much as I would LOVE him on the CBJ).

Personally, I think Methot is the most likely to be moved. Moore has a bright future and Murray isn't going anywhere. JJ is probably close to untouchable based on the CBJ situation. I'd love to see a deal that involved Methot and MPS with other pieces involved. Seems like that's the two surplus pieces (not dismissing either player). They both seem like they have value but there are other options higher up in each organization.

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The oilers don't need any more third pairing defensemen. Whitney, Sutton, Potter, Teubert cover that pairing. What we need is another decent top four option, a number three guy really, one who can move the puck well while still being solid defensively.

Smid - Petry
???? - Schultz
Whitney - Sutton/Potter

I could see EDM being interested in a deal involving Nikitin and Hemsky.

Hemsky
Plante
Martindale

for

Nikitin
Goulobef
Watching both teams play, I think Methot is a #4 and might pair well with Schultz. He probably is more mobile than Schultz but will never be confused as a puck rusher or offensive defenseman. If we're talking Hemsky, I think you are talking Methot in return. Columbus is not likely to take on the injury risk and salary of Hemsky without moving some salary back. Just my opinion though.

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I like Moore's upside but David Savard is going to be the better player IMO.

I wouldn't deal either if I was Howson.

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