HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Metropolitan Division > Pittsburgh Penguins
Notices

Offseason Discussion VIII: Dennis Wideman Superstar (Contract/FA charts in Post #1)

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-28-2012, 04:24 AM
  #51
Tender Rip
No cap on coaching!
 
Tender Rip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Shanghai, China
Posts: 12,285
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lost in Crafton View Post
ill just direct you here and here.
Bwah!

Tender Rip is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 04:59 AM
  #52
#66
Registered User
 
#66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Country: United States
Posts: 10,270
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by shureshot66 View Post
Mark Madden ‏@MarkMaddenX
I have seen the future of the Penguins defense. Its name is CARL SNEEP.
He gets trashed a lot but I kind of like Sneep. IMO he looked pretty good during his call up.

Anyone else have an interest in Parros and Zanon? Maybe not the sexiest names out there but they fill needs IMO. Sure Parros is known for fighting but I like his size for the 4th line and he can give a pretty good shift too. Zanon cna be the player we all wanted Zib to be.

Plus the Pens still have about 10 mill of dead money left to trim.

#66 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 05:39 AM
  #53
Captain Hook
Olli Määttä
 
Captain Hook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 13,389
vCash: 500
Ducks fans don't seem to think Parros is much of a player/fighter anymore since his eye injury. Not interested.

I don't think Zanon is a quality enough D-Man to keep our better prospects out of the lineup.

Captain Hook is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 08:39 AM
  #54
TKO
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 21
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by jmelm View Post
I really don't think we need anymore bottom 6 forwards. Tangradi & Jeffrey deserve a chance to play, and although each may have top-6 or top-9 upside, they may have to start on the 4th line with some occasional PP time. Unless one of these guys is going to get traded, we've got more than enough bodies in the bottom 6.


Not to mention, if we are going to sign Parise, and possibly Suter or another forward to play in the top-6, we need guys who are as cheap as possible. Jeffrey's salary is as close to league minimum as you can get for a forward of his ability & upside, and I suspect Tangradi can be re-signed for similar money to Jeffrey if it's a one-way deal.
No way in hell I want Tangradi and Jeffrey on the 4th line.. I much rather a 4th line with some grit, toughness and get under the opponents skin. Shero metioned he wanted to be tougher to play against and I'm hoping he revamps the bottom 6 with some tough players. If Tangradi can be a 3rd line player that's fine but I think he's being wasted playing on the 4th.. I would love a 4th line of Tootoo- Vitale- Burish like another poster suggested they would be a headache to play against

TKO is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 08:46 AM
  #55
khaoskennedy
Registered User
 
khaoskennedy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Western, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 991
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TKO View Post
No way in hell I want Tangradi and Jeffrey on the 4th line.. I much rather a 4th line with some grit, toughness and get under the opponents skin. Shero metioned he wanted to be tougher to play against and I'm hoping he revamps the bottom 6 with some tough players. If Tangradi can be a 3rd line player that's fine but I think he's being wasted playing on the 4th.. I would love a 4th line of Tootoo- Vitale- Burish like another poster suggested they would be a headache to play against
I'm not against a tougher 4th line, but we already have
Cooke, Sutter, Kennedy, Tangradi, Jeffrey, Vitale, Adams and possibly Dupuis all in the bottom 6. i'd much rather upgrade the top 6, its not like these guys are Charmin Soff, but if TK or someone were to be traded it wouldn't be so bad to bring in one tougher guy.

khaoskennedy is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 08:50 AM
  #56
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,164
vCash: 500
I would take Parros for the mustache alone.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 08:54 AM
  #57
Ogrezilla
Nerf Herder
 
Ogrezilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 31,432
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by eXile59 View Post
I would take Parros for the mustache alone.
TK+(+?) for Parros' mustache. Do it Ray.

Ogrezilla is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:18 AM
  #58
Darth Vitale
Moderator
Transitional Period
 
Darth Vitale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Fangorn
Country: United States
Posts: 25,399
vCash: 500
Anyone who would not want Parros on our 4th line is a Godless Comm'nist.



Regarding Cullen's take on Wideman: it's not hard to PREDICT he would make $5M+ a year, but that doesn't make him any less overpaid. Although I might take his mediocre D and great offensive skills on the PP for $5M over Martin, the way things went last year. Preferably though I'd like to have neither of those problems on the books.

Darth Vitale is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:18 AM
  #59
Axman
MoreSkilledThanYou
 
Axman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Country: Poland
Posts: 4,643
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogrezilla View Post
TK+(+?) for Parros' mustache. Do it Ray.
There's a good salary dump...

Axman is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:27 AM
  #60
Pens1566
Registered User
 
Pens1566's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: WV
Country: United States
Posts: 11,609
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riptide View Post
Lattendress
Mueller
Huselius
Boyes
Stempniak
Blake

Or some bottom 6 I like
Moen
Tootoo
Betts
Konopka
There is less than a 0% chance this organization signs Konopka.

Pens1566 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:31 AM
  #61
Darth Vitale
Moderator
Transitional Period
 
Darth Vitale's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Fangorn
Country: United States
Posts: 25,399
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pens1566 View Post
There is less than a 0% chance this organization signs Konopka.
Mostly because he is not George Parros... friend and student of Gary Roberts.

Darth Vitale is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:35 AM
  #62
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 11,680
vCash: 500
I'd be interested in Hudler as an option if we miss out Parise and Ryan. Of course, it depends how much he wants.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:39 AM
  #63
Captain Hook
Olli Määttä
 
Captain Hook's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Country: United States
Posts: 13,389
vCash: 500
I'm not against adding size to the team. It is a need and I want to do that but the guy also has to be able to play. A healthy Moen is an example of a guy like that. I just hear to many negative things about Parros from Ducks fans these days. Seems he may be done or at least rapidly declining. I really doubt he'd crack our lineup and he certainly wouldn't play in the playoffs. I think the ideal thing is to find big guys that can play the game and will be in the lineup come playoff time.

Captain Hook is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:47 AM
  #64
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,164
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shady Machine View Post
I'd be interested in Hudler as an option if we miss out Parise and Ryan. Of course, it depends how much he wants.
Hudler's name also caught my interest but who knows what the heck he wants. He could be going back to the KHL for all we know. If he would be willing to come to Pittsburgh we should put our hats in for sure.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:48 AM
  #65
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,164
vCash: 500
Mustache's like that just don't come along very often in free agency. When they do you have to go for it.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:49 AM
  #66
Pens1566
Registered User
 
Pens1566's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: WV
Country: United States
Posts: 11,609
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chancellor Vitale View Post
Mostly because he is not George Parros... friend and student of Gary Roberts.
I was basing it off his comments about Lemieux 2 years ago ...

Pens1566 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:49 AM
  #67
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 11,680
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by eXile59 View Post
Hudler's name also caught my interest but who knows what the heck he wants. He could be going back to the KHL for all we know. If he would be willing to come to Pittsburgh we should put our hats in for sure.
Yeah I forgot about him for UFA's. He made just under 3 mil last year. I'd give him the Kunitz contract if he was willing to come here. 2 years 3.75. In that case, he wouldn't be the only winger acquisition, but he could be pretty valuable.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:50 AM
  #68
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
Hell no to Parenteau. I'm sure hed rack up the points as a RHS on our PP, but he won't be worth the money he'll command. Ray Whitney is a much better option.

As for Hudler. Detroit's forward corps isn't exactly sparkling and yet he isn't a very high priority for them. Plenty of other options via trade before I go that route.

mpp9 is online now  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:54 AM
  #69
STLPensFan
Registered User
 
STLPensFan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: STL, MO
Posts: 119
vCash: 500
If we deal TK for Parros' mustache, can we throw Sid's mustache in on the deal? And do we put Parros' on the first line with Sid? I think it would really shine come playoff time.

STLPensFan is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:56 AM
  #70
Ogrezilla
Nerf Herder
 
Ogrezilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 31,432
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by STLPensFan View Post
If we deal TK for Parros' mustache, can we throw Sid's mustache in on the deal? And do we put Parros' on the first line with Sid? I think it would really shine come playoff time.
It goes on Paul Martin for sure. You don't need to actually BE tough with that mustache, you look so tough nobody touches you.

Ogrezilla is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:56 AM
  #71
Shady Machine
Registered User
 
Shady Machine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 11,680
vCash: 500
It will be sparkling if they get Parise, which is the whole point.

Parise-Datsyuk-Franzen
Cleary-Zetterberg-Bertuzzi
Nyquist-Filpulla-Helm


Anyway, not saying Hudler is my first option, just that he's a good player that can put up 50-60 points in a top 6 role. If we can't get Parise, Ryan, or Whitney, I can't think of many more valuable guys if he will sign under 4 mil. I have no idea what his demands are, but if he would sign 2 years 3.75, I think I'd take it.

Shady Machine is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 09:56 AM
  #72
Flat Stanley
Registered User
 
Flat Stanley's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Country: United States
Posts: 5,205
vCash: 500
PA Parenteau - There's a connection between him and the Pens. Shero knows his camp very well and Dan Bylsma played on and coached the same ECHL team as Parenteau, the Cincinnati Cyclones. Parenteau is a skilled, right handed winger, who I think would be a good fit on the Penguins if Shero wants him. Obviously wouldn't be a top priority to sign.

Jiri Hudler - Represented by the same agent as Jaromir Jagr, Petr Svoboda, nuff said.

Flat Stanley is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 10:01 AM
  #73
eXile59
Shirts on.
 
eXile59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 16,164
vCash: 500
One guy that should be interesting is Latendresse. Guy is a legit top 6 power forward when healthy. Just would have to be sure the concussion thing is better & nothing long term. If we miss out on Parise, Suter, Ryan, Nash, Yandle I would look at...

Latendresse, Hudler, Penner.

eXile59 is offline  
Old
06-28-2012, 10:03 AM
  #74
mpp9
Registered User
 
mpp9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Country: United States
Posts: 16,914
vCash: 500
I take Setoguchi and giving up the assets it'd require in a trade over Hudler 10/10 times.

mpp9 is online now  
Old
06-28-2012, 10:04 AM
  #75
deakka
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Country: Sweden
Posts: 2,036
vCash: 500
Is Mueller considered to "soff"? Ive liked his talent since he got drafted and he put up good PPG pace in Colorado. His concussion issues may be a case of concern tho.

deakka is offline  
Closed Thread

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:55 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.