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06-28-2012, 12:11 AM
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What team should I follow when the Wild don't re-sign Lats? I'm thinking either San Jose or Philly. I honestly can't believe how stupid Fletcher can be if he doesn't re-sign Lats to a one year deal.

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I'll be happy for Lats that hes back, and I'll pay at least some attention to him wherever he goes, but this ones on GMCF.

I really wonder if we would have a tampering case against whoever ultimately signs him tho.

I just do not like this.
Maybe that's part of GMCF's plan. Maybe he can pull a Lamoriello and get the NHL to award the Wild someone's first round pick.

Seriously though this sucks. I am not blaming either side yet, but this is not good news.

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Ding ding ding! Except Bouchard has played 96 games to Lat's 27 in the past two years combined...
Yet if we go back 3 years instead...

Bouchard 97GP
Lats 105GP (with a couple healthy scratches to boot)

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As an injury replacement? Absolutely. That's what good teams do, plug a player like Palmer or McIntyre into their top 6 when they have injuries. The NHL doesn't work like EA Sports games where you can stick a high quality veteran top 6 player in as your 13th/14th forward.
Exactly. One difference this year is we should have better depth to replace injured players. We just don't want to be in a situation where we have to dive too deep too fast.

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06-28-2012, 12:13 AM
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What team should I follow when the Wild don't re-sign Lats? I'm thinking either San Jose or Philly. I honestly can't believe how stupid Fletcher can be if he doesn't re-sign Lats to a one year deal.
Please tell me you're kidding. If you give up on the Wild and switch teams just because of this, then........wow.

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06-28-2012, 12:14 AM
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Please tell me you're kidding. If you give up on the Wild and switch teams just because of this, then........wow.
My thoughts exactly.

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06-28-2012, 12:14 AM
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As an injury replacement? Absolutely. That's what good teams do, plug a player like Palmer or McIntyre into their top 6 when they have injuries. The NHL doesn't work like EA Sports games where you can stick a high quality veteran top 6 player in as your 13th/14th forward.
Whats that word you love to use? Strawman?
I'm not talking about a high quality veteran, I'm talking about a one year $2.5M player who would still be a quality 3rd liner or depth option if stars like Palmer or Mcintyre beat him out of the top 2 lines.

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06-28-2012, 12:15 AM
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Just changed the avatar too, because I'm not getting into that argument again where I have to repeat myself.
Can I blame you for first line center Warren Peters then?

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Play with fire and get burned. I'm not saying he's gone for sure, because teams may not want the risk, but all it takes is one team to offer 2 years. Just one and he's gone. ****.

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Can I blame you for first line center Warren Peters then?
Go for it!

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Please tell me you're kidding. If you give up on the Wild and switch teams just because of this, then........wow.
I really don't give a ****. I'm going to be beyond pissed off if he's not back this season. The ONLY thing that will make me feel any better about not re-signing Lats is if we get Parise and we all know the chances of that happening are slim to none.

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As one of the biggest supporters of us re-signing Lats, I have to say many of you are dramatically overreacting. I would have much rather preferred he be re-signed, but this does not mean it can't happen. It's entirely possible that he'll sign back here next week after seeing what other teams offer.

Ultimately, by not re-signing Lats, Fletcher has solved our over-staffing issue in the top 6. Any scenario that included a healthy Lats, healthy Bouchard, and free agent signing (like Parise) would have forced Granlund to play in Houston. That's what the situation with our top 6 looks like right now. Be disappointed, I know that I am, but it's certainly far from the end of the world.

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What team should I follow when the Wild don't re-sign Lats? I'm thinking either San Jose or Philly. I honestly can't believe how stupid Fletcher can be if he doesn't re-sign Lats to a one year deal.
Idk, but its gonna suck having to change your username.

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06-28-2012, 12:19 AM
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Idk, but its gonna suck having to change your username.
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Go for it!
Good because that was a dark, dark day in Minnesota Wild history. Thank God all these second rounders who can play a top-9 role are finally beginning to be ready.

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What team should I follow when the Wild don't re-sign Lats? I'm thinking either San Jose or Philly. I honestly can't believe how stupid Fletcher can be if he doesn't re-sign Lats to a one year deal.
Pittsburgh seems like a team that has alot of fans that like to jump on and off of the bandwagon. Toronto maybe? Just a thought.

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Whats that word you love to use? Strawman?
I'm not talking about a high quality veteran, I'm talking about a one year $2.5M player who would still be a quality 3rd liner or depth option if stars like Palmer or Mcintyre beat him out of the top 2 lines.
If anyone's making a strawman, it's you. I have been Lats' most ardent supporter since the start.

Feel free to find teams that have better secondary options than we do. I'm sure there's 3-4 of them, but there's 25-26 of them who don't. We'll be waiting to see how "terrible" our depth is compared to others.

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06-28-2012, 12:22 AM
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Pittsburgh seems like a team that has alot of fans that like to jump on and off of the bandwagon. Toronto maybe? Just a thought.
God no to either of those teams. I can't stand Pitt's players and I can't stand Toronto's fans.

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God no to either of those teams. I can't stand Pitt's players and I can't stand Toronto's fans.
You're not going to switch teams, settle down. Don't be a girl


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God no to either of those teams. I can't stand Pitt's players and I can't stand Toronto's fans.


Why? Is it because they overreact to everything their GM does?

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As one of the biggest supporters of us re-signing Lats, I have to say many of you are dramatically overreacting. I would have much rather preferred he be re-signed, but this does not mean it can't happen. It's entirely possible that he'll sign back here next week after seeing what other teams offer.

Ultimately, by not re-signing Lats, Fletcher has solved our over-staffing issue in the top 6. Any scenario that included a healthy Lats, healthy Bouchard, and free agent signing (like Parise) would have forced Granlund to play in Houston. That's what the situation with our top 6 looks like right now. Be disappointed, I know that I am, but it's certainly far from the end of the world.
While it may actually be good for Granlund to get some time down there, Fletcher would never do it. Do you see how the team is using him for PR? Cripes, they're offering an autographed jersey from him to those who buy season tickets. That right there can squash any possible mention of him in trades for a guy like B. Ryan. They're hyping Granlund like crazy knowing it'll get some extra butts in the seats. He may not become this savior to the team like some predict, but the club is hoping he's the temporary savior that saves the fans from bolting.

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06-28-2012, 12:25 AM
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If anyone's making a strawman, it's you. I have been Lats' most ardent supporter since the start.

Feel free to find teams that have better secondary options than we do. I'm sure there's 3-4 of them, but there's 25-26 of them who don't. We'll be waiting to see how "terrible" our depth is compared to others.
So, Palmer, Mcintyre, and a bunch of 19-20 year old kids fresh out of Canadian shinny hockey give the Wild top 5 depth in the NHL?

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06-28-2012, 12:27 AM
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My thoughts exactly.
I'll obviously still support the Wild, but I do see where he is coming from. To me, it just shows a lack a commitment to winning. A small gamble and investment for a huge payoff..... it just seems like a really cheap and gutless movie to lose a guy over such a small amount of money.

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Why? Is it because they overreact to everything their GM does?

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Sigh...

I'm glad Leopold and Co are choosing to go completely balls deep in risk by putting it all on getting Parise and/or Sutter but wont take a cheaper risk on a guy who has potential and is already on the roster.

There is much greater risk to the team by not signing him. I really hope this is just Gui's agent trying to raise the bar a little bit.

So what, assuming no suter, no parise, and no Lats we go into the next season with this:

Granlund - Koivu - Heatley
Butch-Cullen-Seto
Clutz-Brodziak-young gun

for a top nine and this for the D:

Scandella-Gilbert
Brodin-Third tier overpaid D man
Spurgeron-Stoner/Falk/Prosser/

Problem is that unless Granlund can slide into the number two center and another prospect can pick up a top six role like a champ, that's a lottery team.

Lottery roster = upset leopold = GMCF has to do something stupid to keep his job= GMCF does something stupid that doesn't work and looses his job = longer rebuilding process for us fans

The Wild are just in such an awkward place right now. Damned if you damned if you don't. If we don't get any substantial upgrades during free agency I really really hope that Leopold and Fletcher don't loose their composure and go for short term gains at the expense of everything they have done so far.

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