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06-28-2012, 11:49 AM
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Marleau to NYR

So would Ranger fans flip at this? SJ think this is enough?
Big IF rangers sign Schultz

Del Zotto, Dubinsky
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Marleau, Demers

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06-28-2012, 11:54 AM
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So would Ranger fans flip at this? SJ think this is enough?
Big IF rangers sign Schultz

Del Zotto, Dubinsky
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Marleau, Demers
BIG NO from SJ. Demers for del zotto is a pretty lateral move just changing a righty to a lefty and marleau>dubi. Sorry but I really can't see the sharks moving marleau to ny. Both teams are win now and the rangers arent about to trade gabby or Richards. Not to mention marleau probably wouldn't waive his ntc to ny.

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Even if we sign Schultz I don't know where people are getting this idea that he's going to step right into our top 4 and be amazing. It's a luxury that we have Del Zotto and McDonagh playing at their level at such a young age. Most times that's not gonna happen. Dan Girardi was 26 years old before he was a legit top 4.

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BIG NO from SJ. Demers for del zotto is a pretty lateral move just changing a righty to a lefty and marleau>dubi. Sorry but I really can't see the sharks moving marleau to ny. Both teams are win now and the rangers arent about to trade gabby or Richards. Not to mention marleau probably wouldn't waive his ntc to ny.



Every Sharks fan I talked to on this board pretty much said their needs are a top 4 LH PMD and a speedy top 6 winger. Dubinsky isn't speedy, nor am I defending this deal, but Del Zotto >>>> Demers. And I'm a big Demers fan, would love to have him for our bottom pairing here.

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The upgrade from Demers to Del Zotto isn't worth the downgrade from Marleau to Dubinsky. Maybe 5 years down the road it would be, but that's not our window.

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Every Sharks fan I talked to on this board pretty much said their needs are a top 4 LH PMD and a speedy top 6 winger. Dubinsky isn't speedy, nor am I defending this deal, but Del Zotto >>>> Demers. And I'm a big Demers fan, would love to have him for our bottom pairing here.
Our biggest need is speed winger not d. So we should trade a speed winger that you aknowledged we need for a speedy d when we already have vlasic and stuart on the side? And del zotto is not that much better than demers. And yes I watched most rangers games this year as I live on the east and watched all the sharks games. So I have watched both play often.

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06-28-2012, 12:25 PM
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Also just to add to above, did you forget about del zottos dreadful year the year prior? Demers had a off year. I'd much rather see if he bounces back then sell low. He is a righty version of del zotto.

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Marleau is probably going to cost NYR something the fans wouldn't want to give up...aka something along the lines of MDZ, Hagelin/Kreider, Dubinsky, 1st.

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Patty will only be moved by massive overpayment. Haglin MUST be involved.

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Don't want Marleau. Not a game changer.

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So would Ranger fans flip at this? SJ think this is enough?
Big IF rangers sign Schultz

Del Zotto, Dubinsky
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Marleau, Demers
Terrible for San Jose.

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Marleau is probably going to cost NYR something the fans wouldn't want to give up...aka something along the lines of MDZ, Hagelin/Kreider, Dubinsky, 1st.
Too old for me to give up something like that but he's a great player. but MDZ, Hagelin/Kreider, Dubi, 1st are all young. Obviously he would cost alot though so I can't blame you.

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For a team that needs speed more than anything else to get better, it's probably not a good idea to trade away your fastest player. Marleau's not going anywhere until his contract is up at the earliest.

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So would Ranger fans flip at this? SJ think this is enough?
Big IF rangers sign Schultz

Del Zotto, Dubinsky
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Marleau, Demers
This doesn't help us to win now and it is bad value for us.

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06-28-2012, 03:03 PM
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Pavelski and Murray to NYR
Del Zotto Anisimov Hagelin to Sharks.... Pavelski will be an UFA in 2014 I think....he is a very underrated player...

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06-28-2012, 03:06 PM
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Pavelski and Murray to NYR
Del Zotto Anisimov Hagelin to Sharks.... Pavelski will be an UFA in 2014 I think....he is a very underrated player...
This is something I would consider.

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Patty will only be moved by massive overpayment. Haglin MUST be involved.
If Hagelin is considered massive overpayment then these negotiations are gonna go jsut fine

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Pavelski and Murray to NYR
Del Zotto Anisimov Hagelin to Sharks.... Pavelski will be an UFA in 2014 I think....he is a very underrated player...
Absolutely awful for the Rangers, and I'm a big Pavelski fan.

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Every Sharks fan I talked to on this board pretty much said their needs are a top 4 LH PMD and a speedy top 6 winger. Dubinsky isn't speedy, nor am I defending this deal, but Del Zotto >>>> Demers. And I'm a big Demers fan, would love to have him for our bottom pairing here.
You are correct, but forward depth is a bigger problem for us. Eventhough I'd love to have Del Zotto, we can't trade Marleau right now.

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Don't want Marleau. Not a game changer.
Don't want Dubinsky. He is garbage.

Del Zotto is solid, but no need for him with the depth on D. Sharks need more wingers/forwards. This trade doesn't fit their needs.

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Don't want Marleau. Not a game changer.
seriously, and i'm a sharks fan. i can't hate the guy, but he has always failed to inspire. why would you target him, of all people?

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seriously, and i'm a sharks fan. i can't hate the guy, but he has always failed to inspire. why would you target him, of all people?
lol you don't hate the guy but you put out generalities like this that are wrong. He's not a generational player like Crosby but he is a game-breaker.

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Marleau is probably going to cost NYR something the fans wouldn't want to give up...aka something along the lines of MDZ, Hagelin/Kreider, Dubinsky, 1st.
Do you mean one of MDZ, Hagelin/Kreider, Dubinsky, 1st.

or do you mean this: MDZ + Hagelin/Kreider + Dubinsky + 1st?

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Pavelski and Murray to NYR
Del Zotto Anisimov Hagelin to Sharks.... Pavelski will be an UFA in 2014 I think....he is a very underrated player...
Murray fills no need. So he'd be our 6th guy. Del Zotto finished top 12 in Norris voting this season (don't ask me how, I guess they look at his points) and Anisimov is solid with decent potential. Hagelin was on a 62 point pace if he had played all 82 games in his rookie season.

Anismov + Del Zotto + 1st for Pavelski + Demers. That's fair value. Del Zotto is a 40 point d-man and he is really young. He will only improve. And with Boyle's age etc you could use a new PMD.

But we do not need another top 6 C, especially not when it would cost us our only offensive D.

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We don't need to overpay for another top 6 C, especially an old one. We got our #1C in Richards (+30 years old) and a young #2C in Stepan already. No need for a 3rd top 6 C who is getting old and who will have started to decline within 2 seasons after getting dealt.

I know Marleau can play wing but I rather overpay for someone younger. Someone like Ryan, Nash (even with his bad caphit) etc.

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