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06-28-2012, 11:44 PM
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D Jay Bouwmeester ($6.68M - UFA 2015)
C Lance Bouma ($693K ELC - RFA 2013)


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C Derek Roy ($4M - UFA 2013)
D Jordan Leopold ($3M - UFA 2013)


Dealz?
I'd probably do this.

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06-29-2012, 12:08 AM
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The Sabres are double digit deep on legit defensive depth. This thread makes no sense.

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06-29-2012, 01:26 AM
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At least from a cost standpoint, this makes some sense for both teams: Calgary gets a proven top 6 center to either replace or complement Jokinen and a cheaper salary defender that can be let go next summer if things don't work out.
News that Jokinen is done with the Flames will make Feaster even more desperate to find a veteran replacement to play on his top line with Iginla (unless he foolishly thinks Stajan is it) - and Roy would seem to be a good candidate. Feaster and Regier are known fans of each other with a working history in the past.

Forget about Bouwmeester altogether: each team needs a center.

Roy + draft pick for Backlund.

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06-29-2012, 01:35 AM
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News that Jokinen is done with the Flames will make Feaster even more desperate to find a veteran replacement to play on his top line with Iginla (unless he foolishly thinks Stajan is it) - and Roy would seem to be a good candidate. Feaster and Regier are known fans of each other with a working history in the past.

Forget about Bouwmeester altogether: each team needs a center.

Roy + draft pick for Backlund.
I'd do it.

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06-29-2012, 01:39 AM
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For how great of a player Flames fans consider JBo, they sure are anxious to get rid of him.

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06-29-2012, 02:30 AM
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For how great of a player Flames fans consider JBo, they sure are anxious to get rid of him.
I think it's more of just weighing our needs. Top center > top d man. Right now our best/#1 center is cammy and he's not even a center lol. J Bo is really the only asset we have thatll get any sort of worth while return that anyone's willing to part with.

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06-29-2012, 02:36 AM
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News that Jokinen is done with the Flames will make Feaster even more desperate to find a veteran replacement to play on his top line with Iginla (unless he foolishly thinks Stajan is it) - and Roy would seem to be a good candidate. Feaster and Regier are known fans of each other with a working history in the past.

Forget about Bouwmeester altogether: each team needs a center.

Roy + draft pick for Backlund.


I think Calgary would be the ones giving up the draft pick, probably more. Backlund isn't going to be too enticing to anyone as the centerpeice of a deal until he proves he's not a bust, and by then we'll wanna hold onto him anyways

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Value isnt important so long as your team gets better.
#1 The team doesn't get better short term (losing Roy hurts next season, adding Bouwmeester doesn't help all that much)

#2 Value is important because it represents your team getting better longterm. Losing Roy or what we could get for him and Pysyk and a pick is bad for the Sabres down the road. I wouldn't trade Pysyk for Bouwmeester because he's going to be a really solid top 4 defenseman on a 3 year ELC while Bouwmeester will continue to decline and not live up to expectations on an inflated contract.

No, I have less interest in Bouwmeester than any other guy mentioned in trade proposals.

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06-29-2012, 08:45 AM
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The Sabres are double digit deep on legit defensive depth. This thread makes no sense.
All of that depth really helped us when Myers and Ehrhoff went down, right?

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06-29-2012, 09:19 AM
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All of that depth really helped us when Myers and Ehrhoff went down, right?
The entire team was playing what, 10-season opening players down? Regehr was out in that span after he hit his head in C'bus. Leopold was playing with a pin sticking out of his finger. Having a dog like Bouwmeester on their blueline ties up cap space in a redundant area and on a player who's pedigree is of being a soft, underacheiver. No thanks.

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The entire team was playing what, 10-season opening players down? Regehr was out in that span after he hit his head in C'bus. Leopold was playing with a pin sticking out of his finger. Having a dog like Bouwmeester on their blueline ties up cap space in a redundant area and on a player who's pedigree is of being a soft, underacheiver. No thanks.
Against Toronto in the biggest games of the season? Pretty sure just Ehrhoff and Myers were out, and we couldn't beat the worst team in the NHL in the biggest spot without them.

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06-29-2012, 09:58 AM
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News that Jokinen is done with the Flames will make Feaster even more desperate to find a veteran replacement to play on his top line with Iginla (unless he foolishly thinks Stajan is it) - and Roy would seem to be a good candidate. Feaster and Regier are known fans of each other with a working history in the past.

Forget about Bouwmeester altogether: each team needs a center.

Roy + draft pick for Backlund.
Wait, what? We add a draft pick to Roy for Backlund? No chance.

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06-29-2012, 10:11 AM
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Wait, what? We add a draft pick to Roy for Backlund? No chance.
Yeah, how does Backlund have more value than Roy???

Also, massive no thanks on J-Bo.

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06-29-2012, 10:31 AM
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For how great of a player Flames fans consider JBo, they sure are anxious to get rid of him.
Noone is anxious to get rid of him. That's why it's not JBo for 2nd pairing winger + prospect. It's JBo for something very specific that addresses a specific need. In this case, it's Roy.

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A deal on the basis of Roy and Leopold coming back sounds good to me... Leopold is basically a poor man's JBo anyway at a cheaper price. And it fills a need at center. From Buffalo's perspective though, do they really need to do this?

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Against Toronto in the biggest games of the season? Pretty sure just Ehrhoff and Myers were out, and we couldn't beat the worst team in the NHL in the biggest spot without them.
Four games from the end of the season? I was talking about the initial Myers and Ehrhoff injuries back in December-January when the season was being decided, not when there was some miracle-needed slim-assed hope that they could win out and make it in.

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A deal on the basis of Roy and Leopold coming back sounds good to me... Leopold is basically a poor man's JBo anyway at a cheaper price. And it fills a need at center. From Buffalo's perspective though, do they really need to do this?
No, they don't need to do this. It takes an area that's thin (NHL-level centers) and adds to an area that's already thick with talent (defense). It's iffy asset management.

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