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03-16-2013, 09:01 AM
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Well he's offensive game haven't developed much. Good first pass and a big shot but can't use it properly. Can't dangle much and he wasn't used on the pp on his sm liiga team.

Good defensively, good shot blocking and positioning, uses his long stick well to break up passes Takes a lot of minor penalties because of his size. Physical player and likes to play the body. Skating is decent for guy of his size. Good leadership qualities and a really mature guy for his age.

His had some injury issues for the past few years 41 and 34 games out of 60
Did he play the right or the left side for his team? I know in European leagues that players often play the off wing as well as the off side on defense in order to move to the middle to shoot easier.

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03-16-2013, 10:19 PM
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Edmundson hasn't played the last 2 games and Rattie didn't play tonight? Kurker scored a goal yesterday.


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Did he play the right or the left side for his team? I know in European leagues that players often play the off wing as well as the off side on defense in order to move to the middle to shoot easier.
sm-liiga.fi lists him as rd

http://www.sm-liiga.fi/pelaajat/12-1...npaa-jani.html

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Rattie has a goal and 2 assists with a little more than a period left. He will finish 3rd in the league in scoring and looks like he will finish second in the WHL in goals scored. Another outstanding season for Rattie.


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Rattie has a goal and 2 assists with a little more than a period left. He will finish 3rd in the league in scoring and looks like he will lead the WHL in goals scored. Another outstanding season for Rattie.

There has to be a mistake since Baertschi isn't there anymore.

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Hopefully Rattie and Jaskin play with Hensick so they aren't wasted in Peoria.

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03-17-2013, 11:39 PM
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There has to be a mistake since Baertschi isn't there anymore.
This made me laugh.

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03-18-2013, 04:25 AM
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Rattie has a goal and 2 assists with a little more than a period left. He will finish 3rd in the league in scoring and looks like he will lead the WHL in goals scored. Another outstanding season for Rattie.
The dude didn't even lead his team in points or goals scored.

Bust.

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I was gonna say he didn't even improve his PPG, but he did. Scored 1.7541 points per game this season compared to 1.7536 points per game last season.

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A guy I wouldn't mind the Blue Rivs Icemen to take a flyer on is Tyler Yaworski from the Brandon Wheat Kings. LHD 6' 4" tough as nails stay at home guy with little offense. On a very crappy team, he was +5. No other defenseman on the team was under -10, including our own Nick Walters.

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03-18-2013, 07:17 AM
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A guy I wouldn't mind the Blue Rivs Icemen to take a flyer on is Tyler Yaworski from the Brandon Wheat Kings. LHD 6' 4" tough as nails stay at home guy with little offense. On a very crappy team, he was +5. No other defenseman on the team was under -10, including our own Nick Walters.
The only think I know about Tyler Yaworski...


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03-18-2013, 07:35 AM
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The only think I know about Tyler Yaworski...
He isn't afraid to drop them with anybody. If you watch several clips of him, then you notice that you also don't want to skate with your head down or he will knock your block off ala Nick Walters. He times his hits well on 3 on 2s and notice he holds his blue line. He plays rough and tumble. Probably needs to improve his skating and first pass, but sign him for your ECHL team on a minor league contract. Could develop into a Matt Walker/Ken Daneyko type. Worse case scenario...entertainment for you AHL team as a tough guy.

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03-19-2013, 06:04 AM
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I guess I'll make this my potential free agent post of the day. Not sure if he has one more year of draft eligibility or not.

Sean Girard from the Q has been passed over in drafts since 2011 when he was ranked 147th
6'1 188 LHD watched some clips of him. Big hitter and tough as nails. durable d-man on a bad team. Should be a free agent after the 1st round of the playoffs....ha ha. Looks like a late bloomer.

2013 3 g 28 assist -18 118 pim

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03-19-2013, 06:34 AM
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Blue Prospects cleaned up at the Moncton Wildcats awards show last night. Dmitrij Jaskin won 5 awards and Yannick Veilleux won another.

http://monctonsports.com/jaskin-stea...t-awards-gala/

They are both key parts to our team. Jaskin gave us fans a scare as he missed a few games down the stretch with an upper body injury but he played the final game and got 4 points finishing one point shy of 100.

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I don't think anyone will be surprised that Jaškin cleaned up. Good to see Veilleux getting ome recognition as well. I'm probably more looking forward to seeing what Veilleux can do in the AHL than Jaškin.

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I guess I'll make this my potential free agent post of the day. Not sure if he has one more year of draft eligibility or not.

Sean Girard from the Q has been passed over in drafts since 2011 when he was ranked 147th
6'1 188 LHD watched some clips of him. Big hitter and tough as nails. durable d-man on a bad team. Should be a free agent after the 1st round of the playoffs....ha ha. Looks like a late bloomer.

2013 3 g 28 assist -18 118 pim
Is there any idea how many of our FA's at AHL level we'll be keeping around? I'd expect more to be let go than retained, but still...

I'd rather we take some chances on guys like you are suggesting rather than retaining players who just haven't shown anything close to enough to this point.

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03-19-2013, 07:21 AM
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I don't think anyone will be surprised that Jaškin cleaned up. Good to see Veilleux getting ome recognition as well. I'm probably more looking forward to seeing what Veilleux can do in the AHL than Jaškin.



Is there any idea how many of our FA's at AHL level we'll be keeping around? I'd expect more to be let go than retained, but still...

I'd rather we take some chances on guys like you are suggesting rather than retaining players who just haven't shown anything close to enough to this point.
The Blues used to be active in this market. When you see Dallas pick up an intangible asset like Brenden Dillon, why wouldn't you? We couldn't get him for Ian Cole. They have an ECHL affiliate. Why not invest in some of these guys from the farm level? Maybe that is why they may be trying to get out from under the Peoria umbrella to free up capital to do so.

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Well, Ty Rattie just finished the regular season with 110 points in 62 games. Not bad.

GP G A Pts
62 48 62 110

Surprised he got more than 50 points with Baertschi gone – good thing Petan and Leipsic carried his sorry ass.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=118248
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Well, Ty Rattie just finished the regular season with 110 points in 62 games. Not bad.

GP G A Pts
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Surprised he got more than 50 points with Baertschi gone – good thing Petan and Leipsic carried his sorry ass.

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=118248
http://whl.ca/stats/show
With how much Calgary was disappointed with Baertschi this year, maybe it was him needing Rattie.

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With how much Calgary was disappointed with Baertschi this year, maybe it was him needing Rattie.
ha ha...thought same thing...

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03-20-2013, 05:03 PM
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Asked about a month ago or more, has anyone seen the Hockey News list of Blues scouts ranking the Blues top 10 prospects? Future Watch edition. Tarasenko was #1 overall.

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Also, the Hockey's Future Blues page is really, really terrible.

Here's their list:

Defensemen:
1. Fairchild (WHAT)
2. Schmaltz
3. Hakanpaa
4. Eronen
5. Ponich
6. Edmundson (WHAT)
7. Parayko
8. Lindbohm
9. Walters
10. Cundari
11. Shields

Should be obvious why that's fairly terrible. It gets worse:

Centers:
1. McRae (lol)
2. Gardiner (LMFAO)
3. Grachev (not really a center)
4. Lehtera (that's not a typo)
5. Sonne
6. Lajunen
7. Tardy
8. Seaman
("Team Strengths: Depth and talent at the center position." Pretty much the complete opposite of the truth and a truly horrible ranking.)

Left Wing:
1. Schwartz (yay, they got one right!)
2. Barriball (WUT)
3. Veillieux
4. Tesink
5. MacEachern
6. Della Rovere
(actually relatively not that horrible despite Barriball being hilariously #2 ... of course Jaskin's a LW.)

Right Wing:
1. Tarasenko (what's this? something correct?)
2. Rattie (and ANOTHER correct thing?)
3. Kurker
4. Shattock
5. Beach
6. Wannstrom
7. Jaskin (lolololololololololololololol)

Also they list Allen, Lundstrom, Binnington, Tremblay and Karpowich in that order with the comment "Team Weaknesses: Depth in goal could be improved."

Also, "Team Weaknesses: Top scoring prospects are question marks." Yes, because Tarasenko, Schwartz, Jaskin and Rattie are the question marks of the bunch.

They haven't changed Team Weaknesses or Team Strengths in literally at least six years, which is really, really sloppy and shoddy work.

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03-20-2013, 05:29 PM
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Here's how I'd rank:

Defense:
1. Hakanpaa
2. Schmaltz
3. Edmundson
4. Fairchild
5. Cundari
6. Parayko
7. Eronen (I don't think this guy is coming over, gut feeling)
8. Lindbohm
9. Walters
10. Ponich
11. Shields

Left Wings:
1. Schwartz
2. Jaskin
3. Grachev
4. Veillieux
5. Tesink
6. MacEachern
7. Della Rovere

Right Wings:
1. Tarasenko
2. Rattie
3. Kurker
4. Wannstrom
5. Beach
6. Shattock

Centers:
1. Lehtera
2. McRae
3. Nigro
not even worth ranking the rest of the dreck considering #2 and #3 aren't legit NHL prospects anymore.

Team Weaknesses: Center is a glaring organizational problem; no top pairing defensemen
Team Strengths: Scoring wingers; strong depth at W, D, G.

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03-20-2013, 05:36 PM
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Leaving goalies off the skater list and merging the groups:

Overall:
1. Tarasenko
2. Schwartz
3. Jaskin
4. Rattie
5. Hakanpaa
6. Schmaltz
7. Lehtera
8. Edmundson
9. Fairchild
10. Kurker
Cundari, Grachev, Veillieux, Parayko, Tesink would be 11-15.
Eronen, MacEachern, Lindbohm, Walters 16-19 and then either McRae or Wannstrom at #20.

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03-20-2013, 07:36 PM
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Rumor apparently going around that you guys are selling the Rivermen to the Canucks (to move to Abbotsford to replace the Heat) and will be affiliating with the Chicago Wolves next year.

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Michal Cajkovsky OHL 6'4" 228 free agent LHD 10 g 24 A 89 PIM 20yr Good skater, but not quick and needs to realize he isn't Paul Coffey, but has some offensive skill and not overly physical, but a good open ice hitter. Looks huge and willing scrapper who will stand up for his teammates

Charlie Dodero OHL Sudbury 6' 2" 200 free agent RHD 7 g 20 A 97 PIM 20 yr just plays a real steady, smart hockey game and is rarely caught out of position. Not a bad scrapper. Leading scorer on his team as a defenseman, but probably asked to play a role that really wasn't his game.

Matt Petgrave 6'1" 190 10 g 40 a free agent LHD broke wrist in his draft year.
Petgrave appears on this list for the second year in a row. He improved his offensive numbers yet again, finishing in the top 10 of defenseman scoring for the first time in his OHL career. He remains a high risk, high reward defenseman, which has probably scared NHL teams off thus far. He'll take chances on the rush and he'll turn the puck over in his own end occasionally, but he also creates a lot of offense from the back end and skates well enough to cover his pinches in most instances. He's not only aggressive with the puck, but without it too. He's definitely one of the better open ice hitters in the league and isn't afraid to toss you around in the defensive end. He can go through some tough stretches defensively though. That being said, I think he looked much better with Oshawa to close the season than he did with Owen Sound to start. I've been a fan since his draft season in Niagara and I think he's got a lot of raw potential for the next level, if you believe that you can work with him.
...We have got to beat Dallas to the next Brenden Dillon...


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