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12-16-2004, 02:27 PM
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2004-2005 QMJHL Winter Trading Period Thread

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COMPLETED AND CONFIRMED TRADES:

12/16/04:
To DRU: 5th rounder in 2006
To BAT: Yannick Riendeau
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12/20/04:
To VDO: Jean-Sebastien Breton
To QUE: 5th rounder in 2005
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12/20/04:
To DRU: Julien Bealieu
To PEI: 8th rounder in 2005
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12/20/04:
To ROU: Sébastien Gauthier
To SHA: Alexandre Bolduc (STL)
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12/21/04:
To DRU: Jesse Arko
To VDO: 8th rounder in 2005
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12/28/04:
To DRU: Jean-Michel Côté
To QUE: Jonathan Laniel
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01/02/05:
To ROU: Sylvain Michaud (NYI), 5th rounder in 2006
To DRU: Philippe Roberge, Jean-Philippe Côté, 6th rounder in 2005
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01/03/05:
To HAL: Austin Corredato
To VDO: 6th rounder in 2005
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01/04/05:
To RIM: Mario Scalzo Jr., 5th rounder in 2006
To VIC: Maxime Desrussieux, Alexandre Vachon, and 2nd rounder in 2006
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01/05/05:
To CHI: Maxim Chamberland
To DRU: Romy Elayoubi
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One trade of a 20-year-old today, a couple days before the official Trade Period starts.

Looks like plenty of buyers, and thus, plenty of sellers this season. Could very well be a busy few weeks. Post those confirmed moves here, folks.

Here is the first move of the period.

To Bathurst: Yannick Riendeau (20, 2GP, 0-0-0)
To Drummondville: 2006 5th round pick

Strange move, seeing as they already have four 20s on their roster in Laplante, Hodgson, Vagner, and Beaudin (though I believe Beaudin has been bumped by Hodgson's return). Riendeau's put up a bunch of points in the past, though...

http://www.lhjmq.qc.ca/lang_en/index...d_nouvelle=595


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Another official trade is Val d'Or Foreurs send a 5th round pick (2005) to Québec in exchange for Jean-Sébastien Breton (17yo who plays for Valleyfield in AAA).

It has been confirmed.

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VD gave up a 5th rounder for him??? Man that wasnt too smart hehe

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What are the chances Moncton goes crazy and trades away bernier and/or crawford

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Why bother? They're number one in the league right now, and arguably don't need to add very much to ensure that they secure that. Of course, the argument can be made that they could get a king's ransom for Bernier and Crawford in building towards potentially hosting the Memorial Cup next year, but there is always the possibility that Bernier could return next year (I doubt it, but who knows if the hackey lackout extends into next season). Crawford and Salvis could potentially be the only impact players they lose for next season, assuming they don't lose anyone to the pro ranks. Salvis is easily replaceable from within, so all they need is a goaltender (and some would argue that Blanchard may not fare too badly next season as that top goalie).

Unless they are looking too far ahead to next year, when they can have a shot at winning it all THIS year, there really is no point to sell the farm now.

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halifax mooseheads are gonna win the league not moncton

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Who's going to get Matt Nickerson from Victo?

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halifax mooseheads are gonna win the league not moncton
I dont think anyone will beat Moncton

they are probably th most "NHL like" team in the Qmjhl.

No weekness and a lot of their youngsters are stepping up.

Halifax is a good team but Moncton is just superier in everyway

actually take that back

Goalie is a wash with Crawford and Churchill

I really hope that Mocton goes to the memorial cup because they would have the best chance against the high powered Knights and the BIG d in the Dub


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I dont think anyone will beat Moncton

they are probably th most "NHL like" team in the Qmjhl.

No weekness and a lot of their youngsters are stepping up.

Halifax is a good team but Moncton is just superier in everyway
I would not be surprised if Moncton get beaten by Chicoutimi or Québec.
Rimouski could make some move soon and become a contender, there is talks that Charrette might be traded.

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I would not be surprised if Moncton get beaten by Chicoutimi or Québec.
Rimouski could make some move soon and become a contender, there is talks that Charrette might be traded.
Rimouski can put up 7 or 8 goals a game, but they can also give up 9 or 10 goals a game. And Moncton has the offensive depth to go goal for goal with the 'Nics.

Quebec, while having potentially the deepest forward crop in the league, has an unproven goalie, and lacks an impact defenseman. If they could make a move for, say Jonathan Paiement (surely a few of those Americans on the roster would be appealing to Lewiston), then they could really be a threat. I'm not convinced in Joyal, yet, though.

Chicoutimi also has great depth up front, and despite being young, they have one of the better defensive units in the league (led by Marcotte, who is arguably the best defenseman in the league), and a combo of Vincent and Verge that is very respectable.

And Crawford/Churchill is not a wash, unfortunately - especially as of late. Churchill has been letting in some soft goals as of late, and that will kill you in the post-season, especially against any of the potent offenses in the league (someone on a different board has made the analogy of Churchill being akin to Roman Cechmanek, wherein he will make the huge saves, and then have a couple of brainfarts at inopportune times). Crawford seemed to be like that in the past - and always had trouble with Halifax in Halifax - but seems to be putting it all together this season. His road shakiness looks like it is gone. If there was one goaltender I would want on my team in the playoffs, it would be Crawford.

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I dont think anyone will beat Moncton

they are probably th most "NHL like" team in the Qmjhl.

No weekness and a lot of their youngsters are stepping up.

Halifax is a good team but Moncton is just superier in everyway

actually take that back

Goelie is a wash with Crawford and Churchill

I really hope that Mocton goes to the memorial cup because they would have the best chance against the high powered Knights and the BIG d in the Dub

??

If anything the only advantage Moncton has is in nets.

Halifax has outplayed Moncton in all 3 games and lost 3 1 goal games.

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Three moves today, on the first day of the Official Trading Period.

The Breton to Val d'Or deal was confirmed.

PEI sent defenseman Julien Beaulieu (who, from all I've spoken to, was badly underachieving) to Drummondville for an 2005 8th rounder.

Speaking of underachievers, Rouyn-Noranda and Shawinigan swapped a pair of them, with St. Louis draft pick, 19-year-old Alexandre Bolduc (33GP, 7-9-16, -4) being sent to the Cataractes for 18-year-old forward Sebastien Gauthier (27GP, 3-8-11, -3).

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If anything the only advantage Moncton has is in nets.

Halifax has outplayed Moncton in all 3 games and lost 3 1 goal games.

I would definitely take the Moncton forward group over the Mooseheads without needing to pause for a second. There is a huge gap between their groups, I believe.

The D is pretty much a wash, maybe an edge the Mooseheads because beyond Saunders and Bartulis, the Cats don't have much going on. Crawford has been brilliant this season, but Churchill has the ability to be equally strong.

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I would definitely take the Moncton forward group over the Mooseheads without needing to pause for a second. There is a huge gap between their groups, I believe.

The D is pretty much a wash, maybe an edge the Mooseheads because beyond Saunders and Bartulis, the Cats don't have much going on. Crawford has been brilliant this season, but Churchill has the ability to be equally strong.
ditto on the offense

I just saw the stats and yea D is probably a wash

mancton 85GA #1
halifax 88GA #2

AS for the week goals for churchill your probably talking about the one vs Bernier in ot to be specific


true if he does continue to allow the cheap ones his team will not make it far in the playoffs

No one has mentioned that Moncton wildcats are winners

they came close last year and now that they are a year older and arguablt better, they have to be the odds on favorite to represent the Q in the mem cup

should be fun tho

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AS for the week goals for churchill your probably talking about the one vs Bernier in ot to be specific
Not only the Moncton game, but the game against PEI earlier in the week, where he came in in relief of Kennedy. Albeit, he was cold off the bench, he gave up two incredibly weak goals in the 3rd. (But so did Kennedy... and Boutin... and Mior... in that game).

But yeah, that Bernier goal was REAL soft.

And he's been having a real hard time handling the puck, getting caught out of the net a couple of times.The sooner he realizes he isn't Hextall or Brodeur or Giguere with the puck, the better off he's going to be.

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Not only the Moncton game, but the game against PEI earlier in the week, where he came in in relief of Kennedy. Albeit, he was cold off the bench, he gave up two incredibly weak goals in the 3rd. (But so did Kennedy... and Boutin... and Mior... in that game).

But yeah, that Bernier goal was REAL soft.

And he's been having a real hard time handling the puck, getting caught out of the net a couple of times.The sooner he realizes he isn't Hextall or Brodeur or Giguere with the puck, the better off he's going to be.

I saw the first 2/3 of that game (PEI vs Halifax) and it was so awful it made me shut off the TV and watch some OHL shlock.

Seriously though, the goalies couldn't have stopped one of those oversized novelty Coke balls they use during the intermission had they tried that day. It was horrendous.

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I would definitely take the Moncton forward group over the Mooseheads without needing to pause for a second. There is a huge gap between their groups, I believe.

The D is pretty much a wash, maybe an edge the Mooseheads because beyond Saunders and Bartulis, the Cats don't have much going on. Crawford has been brilliant this season, but Churchill has the ability to be equally strong.
I prefer Halifax's forwards but that is just me. They have only been clickign for half the year and when they are on it is scary.

Moncton has great forwards as well but i just think Halifax more depth within the 3rd and 4th lines.

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There may be more depth on the 3-4 lines, but I'd rather have any of Bernier, Graham, Pineault, and Karsums all over Vrana, Sparre, Bernier, or whoever else may be considered the Mooshead's top forward.

EDIT: That said, Halifax has a very, very good team, and may be under appreciated for sure. They have the abilityh to make some big noise and pull off the win against anybody come playoff time.

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I hear Saulnier and Sheppard are on the way out of Halifax soon. No source, just word of mouth. Not sure if there is any truth to it, just wondering if anyone else heard anything.

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I hear Saulnier and Sheppard are on the way out of Halifax soon. No source, just word of mouth. Not sure if there is any truth to it, just wondering if anyone else heard anything.
If Halifax wants to add Impact players other teams will be asking for Saulnier or Sheppard.

Depends what Halifax will do.

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is there truth to the rumour that moncton is trying to land Sidney Crosby?

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Nope.

Labonte dismissed all rumoures and was adamint that Crosby will not be traded under any condition.

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I hear Saulnier and Sheppard are on the way out of Halifax soon. No source, just word of mouth. Not sure if there is any truth to it, just wondering if anyone else heard anything.
Looks like the Mooseheads could get screwed over because of their depth in youth and vets this season... already Pouliot has stated his intentions to leave and if Saulnier goes that's another blow for the future.

Sheppard needs to go somewhere he can get some experience though. Remember when he was the best player on the Mooseheads early last season?

Me neither. Well, barely.

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is there truth to the rumour that moncton is trying to land Sidney Crosby?

Nada.

Moncton is in the nice position of trying to add a piece of two to make them a Memorial Cup team while still holding on to enough 18 year olds (or younger) to ice a great team next year when they will (almost certainly) host the Memorial Cup.

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Nada.

Moncton is in the nice position of trying to add a piece of two to make them a Memorial Cup team while still holding on to enough 18 year olds (or younger) to ice a great team next year when they will (almost certainly) host the Memorial Cup.
Sheppard would be a good fit IMO.

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