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06-29-2012, 12:08 PM
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He actually is.
I'll believe it when I see him play and last more than a few weeks.

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06-29-2012, 12:10 PM
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I wanted Lats back, so I'd accept Mueller. Ain't my money.

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I would pass on Mueller if I were you guys.

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I'll believe it when I see him play and last more than a few weeks.
You could've said the same thing about someone else we just let go.....

As far as Mueller, meh....ok, if he's cheap....I'd rather see Penner signed as an option over Mueller, though.

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I would pass on Mueller if I were you guys.
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You could've said the same thing about someone else we just let go.....

As far as Mueller, meh....ok, if he's cheap....I'd rather see Penner signed as an option over Mueller, though.
Vastly different situations in my opinion. This year would have been Lats chance to prove he can come back from a concussion without being prone to them. Meanwhile, Bouchard has demonstrated that he is very concussion prone after missing most of the last several years to two of them.

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06-29-2012, 12:41 PM
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Don't do it Fletch.

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06-29-2012, 12:59 PM
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i wouldn't think Mueller would be anything more than a plan "C".

maybe the oilers would be willing to spend the cash on him and lats...lots of cash. don't they have $26m to spend? are they at the floor?

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06-29-2012, 01:00 PM
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i wouldn't give Mueller more than a $1.5m/1 deal btw. same as lats but without the bonuses.

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His most recent contract with the Avs was 2 years/4 Mill, you could probably assume that he would currently sign for 1 Million a year or slightly above that. Lets say it happens to pan out and plays 60+ games and he puts 20 G's in the net. Personally, I think for that kind of money it would be worth the risk. There are worse ways to spend a million, no?

My Thoughts Exactly

Why not sign him. Its good depth to have. Sign the kid for 2 years pay him no more than what Lats qualifying offer wouldve costed 2.5per and see what he can do.

Worst thing that happens is he gets hurt and we pay him the money that we have anyways..then when the kids are completely ready for top 6 role and big paychecks he's off our books.

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Don't we have enough injury problem people? If we're after Mueller that means we've had a very bad offseason.

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06-29-2012, 03:37 PM
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Don't we have enough injury problem people? If we're after Mueller that means we've had a very bad offseason.
What injury problems do we have? We have Bouchard coming off a concussion and...

Oh that's right, we don't have anything else.

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What injury problems do we have? We have Bouchard coming off a concussion and...

Oh that's right, we don't have anything else.
One could argue Koivu and Spurgy.

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He can help us, IMO your a fool if you sign him for more then 2yr, and more then 1.5..... He needs a chance, I would welcome him, he could still be a 30-30 guy.


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06-29-2012, 03:43 PM
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What injury problems do we have? We have Bouchard coming off a concussion and...

Oh that's right, we don't have anything else.
Oh for heaven's sake Koivu is a major injury problem, Spurgeon, Lats who everyone wanted back was a major one, Heatley played injured last year, so did Setoguchi, Clutterbuck gets dinged up and his production goes down, Harding, Backstrom, plus the added possibiliy of the few guys like Cullen who managed to stay healthy or Brodziak getting injured....do i need to really go on? Think i've covered just about everyone.

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I'd do it in a heartbeat. He's a top-6 player with position flexibility, and runs the point on the PP. HE IS SKILLED!

Remember, Fletcher is looking for long-term pieces of the puzzle too- Mueller's just what...25?

I get the argument about concussions, but at this point in time, what NHLer hasn't had a concussion or two? Is Mueller any worse off than Bouchard, or Spurgeon, or Clutterbuck in terms of risk?

Maybe we need to look at this like...what can he do for this team if he's healthy?

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06-29-2012, 03:48 PM
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Oh for heaven's sake Koivu is a major injury problem, Spurgeon, Lats who everyone wanted back was a major one, Heatley played injured last year, so did Setoguchi, Clutterbuck gets dinged up and his production goes down, Harding, Backstrom, plus the added possibiliy of the few guys like Cullen who managed to stay healthy or Brodziak getting injured....do i need to really go on? Think i've covered just about everyone.
Heatley, Brodziak and Cullen are not injury concerns, otherwise you can just list off everybody in the NHL on the "possibility" that they could get injured.

Lats isn't on the team anymore, and shouldn't be considered.

Koivu, you may have a case.

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06-29-2012, 03:50 PM
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Oh for heaven's sake Koivu is a major injury problem, Spurgeon, Lats who everyone wanted back was a major one, Heatley played injured last year, so did Setoguchi, Clutterbuck gets dinged up and his production goes down, Harding, Backstrom, plus the added possibiliy of the few guys like Cullen who managed to stay healthy or Brodziak getting injured....do i need to really go on? Think i've covered just about everyone.
Spurgeon? A player who missed only 12 games in his career, and Fletcher has confirmed could have cut that number to 8 last season, but they were meaningless games he didn't want to risk him for? That's an injury risk?

Heatley has missed 13 games since the lockout, and 11 of those were in 07-08.

Clutterbuck has missed 26 games in his career.

Setoguchi was in a car accident.

Koivu has averaged 70 games a season, but that's right around league average.

Lats isn't on the team anymore, but somehow he's an injury risk for us? We have two goalies who have spent some time injured so we can't take an injury risk on as a forward? Two centers didn't have injury problems last year so they're an injury risk this year? What have you been smoking?

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06-29-2012, 03:53 PM
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Spurgeon? A player who missed only 12 games in his career, and Fletcher has confirmed could have cut that number to 8 last season, but they were meaningless games he didn't want to risk him for? That's an injury risk?

Heatley has missed 13 games since the lockout, and 11 of those were in 07-08.

Clutterbuck has missed 26 games in his career.

Setoguchi was in a car accident.

Koivu has averaged 70 games a season, but that's right around league average.

Lats isn't on the team anymore, but somehow he's an injury risk for us? We have two goalies who have spent some time injured so we can't take an injury risk on as a forward? Two centers didn't have injury problems last year so they're an injury risk this year? What have you been smoking?
I'm sorry, i guess just the memory of practically leading the league in injuries last year and having them singlehandedly reck our season hasn't really gotten out of my memory yet.

And the problem is Koivu is the key cog, and he does have a problem staying healthy, which is my biggest concern about him. Not his leadership or other things that some (KC) have questioned, but his health is legitamate concern.

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06-29-2012, 05:53 PM
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someone might give him a too generous offer before we get to him. There are teams out there that need to get to the cap floor, and a one year deal for $4m might let them do it. We're not going to touch that.

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06-29-2012, 06:26 PM
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Ideally I hope we don't sign mueller, if we don't sign parise I would like to see Fletcher package clutter with something to get a goal scoring forward because we need one BAD.

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I'd do it for $2 yr/$2 Million. Why not?

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I'd do it for $2 yr/$2 Million. Why not?
I don't think he'd do $2 a year for 2 million years.

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I don't think he'd do $2 a year for 2 million years.
Lmao... Sure he would who wouldn't want to spend 2 million years here ?

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Ideally I hope we don't sign mueller, if we don't sign parise I would like to see Fletcher package clutter with something to get a goal scoring forward because we need one BAD.
Honestly we need two of them. We just let one walk away after all...

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