HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Ottawa Senators
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Sens Board Prospect Rankings 2012 (7th)

View Poll Results: Vote for our #7 prospect
Jarrod Maidens 2 1.44%
Ben Blood 0 0%
Mike Hoffman 9 6.47%
Chris Wideman 0 0%
Matt Puempel 47 33.81%
Shane Prince 46 33.09%
Fredrik Claesson 2 1.44%
Michael Sdao 0 0%
Patrick Wiercioch 2 1.44%
Mark Borowiecki 10 7.19%
Andre Petersson 1 0.72%
Stephane Da Costa 12 8.63%
Jim O'Brien 3 2.16%
Jean-Gabriel Pageau 5 3.60%
Derek Grant 0 0%
Voters: 139. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-29-2012, 06:51 PM
  #76
CanadianHockey
Smith - Alfie
 
CanadianHockey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 28,724
vCash: 2391
Quote:
Originally Posted by topshelfie View Post
There are tons of players with more potential than O'brien that i think should be ranked higher. The only reason O'brien was in the NHL last season was because Da Costa and Zibby weren't NHL ready yet.

Other than Da Costa, there are several players that have more potential than him or hold more value via trade.

At best o'brien is a 3rd liner. Meanwhile we have players left on the list that project to be top 6 forwards still.
Meh, different approach. I value NHL-readiness more than most people. O'Brien is more NHL ready than Da Costa because JOB can play a bottom-6 role. Da Costa is closer to top-6 or bust territory, and those guys are more likely to bust than to boom IMO.

__________________
CanadianHockey________ __ __________Sens, Oilers, and Team Canada
CanadianHockey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 09:39 PM
  #77
SpezDispenser
Registered User
 
SpezDispenser's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 14,390
vCash: 500
Easily Boroweicki. This guy is about to begin a long NHL career in a few months.

SpezDispenser is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 09:50 PM
  #78
Dionysus
Registered User
 
Dionysus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Around the bend
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,174
vCash: 50
Puempel. Huge upside, finally healthy.

Dionysus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 10:03 PM
  #79
BigZKingK
Registered User
 
BigZKingK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 854
vCash: 500
Prince then puempel then boro.... can we slow down the pool ? im here at least 1 time a day and i've miss already two pool im new i know, i just wanna know if we can keep at least 48h between two pool the top 8 was easy i most admit but for the rest? Sorry for my english its not that good

BigZKingK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 10:10 PM
  #80
Icelevel
little bit better
 
Icelevel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,214
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by topshelfie View Post
Does this list picking seem messed up to anyone else? Seems like half the people are voting for who they think makes the NHL next, and the other half are voting for who will be the best overall player.
....yes

Icelevel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 10:23 PM
  #81
source
Registered User
 
source's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 5,385
vCash: 500
We should just do a poll to determine the order of the most valuable players in the organization. Prospects and roster players.

Some prospects should be ranked higher than NHL guys, but for the most part these should be bluechippers. I think that would do away with some of the confusion, because posters would be forced to include NHL-readiness in their valuation of players.

source is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 10:23 PM
  #82
Pietraneglo222
WwWwW
 
Pietraneglo222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gatineau
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,271
vCash: 500
Is Pageau a serious pick Big G?

Pietraneglo222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 10:29 PM
  #83
MAK19
FreeWierciochBanAndy
 
MAK19's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Madrid
Posts: 13,374
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Immanuel View Post
Is Pageau a serious pick Big G?
Pageau is awesome and his potential is just as high as anyone left on the board

MAK19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 11:19 PM
  #84
Lehner
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Lehner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,010
vCash: 50
I am going on vacation and wont have internet, hopefully someone can carry these polls on until I get back.

Thanks whoever does it.

Lehner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-29-2012, 11:28 PM
  #85
xVolchenkov
Registered User
 
xVolchenkov's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 455
vCash: 50
Voted JGP.

xVolchenkov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 12:00 AM
  #86
DJB
Sens best prospect
 
DJB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,776
vCash: 908
I like Prince, but to me Puempel has more NHL potential...

Prince is top 6 or bust for sure...

DJB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 12:04 AM
  #87
DrEasy
Get well soon, BM!
 
DrEasy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,051
vCash: 840
I went with the Hoff, but could have easily gone with Da Costa or BoroCop.

Poor Da Costa though. If we don't trade for Turris, I think he's possibly our #2 C to start the year. But now he's stuck and he might never make it here, unless there's an injury.


AND CAN WE ADD KRAMER PLEASE?

DrEasy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 12:04 AM
  #88
Xspyrit
Registered User
 
Xspyrit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Monterrey, Mexico
Country: Italy
Posts: 13,704
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by 19sens11 View Post
Because it only takes one guy a team prefers for him to fall. For example, team X has Prince ranked 23rd, but another guy 19th, and both are available at 47th overall. Who do ya think there gonna pick?
I usually don't agree with you but you are totally right on this subject.

Quote:
Originally Posted by topshelfie View Post
Does this list picking seem messed up to anyone else? Seems like half the people are voting for who they think makes the NHL next, and the other half are voting for who will be the best overall player.
I've been saying that fro years, there's no concensus

NHL readiness is something we have to consider just like any other factor. It shouldn't make Jim O'Brien a better prospect than Noesen or Puempel.

For me, is who could be the better player down the road? Safe prospects with low bust % have an advantage on others but not a 100% advantage.

In a few words it is : who do you think is the better prospect to have? Who holds more value and who would you rather have (not based on needs but based on BPA)

In what order would you pick if we were making a draft amongst Sens prospects?

Maybe put that question as a disclaimer with each poll

Quote:
Originally Posted by aragorn View Post
Didn't Hoffman have a better junior career than both Prince & Puemple? And didn't he out score Petersson in Bingo, in fact, didn't Hoffman lead Bingo in scoring? While Hoffman is older & closer to making the NHL IMO he has all the tools to be an outstanding NHL player.
You guys don't read answers to quotes

AndrePetersson the moderator told you Petersson had a better PPG. Yes, Hoffman had more points (5) but he played more games (16)

Xspyrit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 02:27 AM
  #89
Nabokov20
Karlsson for Chuck
 
Nabokov20's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,677
vCash: 1706
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xelace View Post
Voted JGP.
High hockey IQ.

I went with Prince...that said, it's a tossup between him, Da Costa, Pageau and Matty P, imo.

Nabokov20 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 07:58 AM
  #90
choi
The Moment
 
choi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 245
vCash: 500
Prince

choi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 06:51 PM
  #91
SensAreReligion
GT- CxC Senator
 
SensAreReligion's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,009
vCash: 500
ya! puemps!

SensAreReligion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-30-2012, 08:36 PM
  #92
topshelfie
Registered User
 
topshelfie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,344
vCash: 500
this vote is too close

topshelfie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2012, 06:58 PM
  #93
operasen
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 3,089
vCash: 500
shall we keep this going?

operasen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2012, 07:01 PM
  #94
Pietraneglo222
WwWwW
 
Pietraneglo222's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Gatineau
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,271
vCash: 500
Sure I'll make the next one.

Pietraneglo222 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2012, 07:02 PM
  #95
Icelevel
little bit better
 
Icelevel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,214
vCash: 500
Someone better vote for prince before we get this all wrong

Icelevel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2012, 07:04 PM
  #96
Minister of Offence
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 23,095
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by H2O View Post
You haven't watched enough of Prince. He's a first round talent that slipped in his draft.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockeyalltheway View Post
Wow. No, not a chance. Prince is good, but don't make him out to be more than he is.
It's not outlandish whatsoever to suggest Prince could have gone in the 1st round. Our scouts say they had him in their first round, I tend to believe them. It's not like he wasn't there on any lists either.

Minister of Offence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-04-2012, 10:34 AM
  #97
aragorn
YES WE CAN
 
aragorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Country: Azores
Posts: 10,933
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xspyrit View Post
You guys don't read answers to quotes

AndrePetersson the moderator told you Petersson had a better PPG. Yes, Hoffman had more points (5) but he played more games (16)
Which could mean that Petersson is less durable than Hoffman possibly due to his stature. I still think that Hoffman will be a better pro than all of the small forwards we have such as Da Costa, Petersson, Pageau & maybe Prince too. But I will say that all of these smaller players have elite skill. But it just could end up being a question of how many small players does the organization want on their team at any one time & can their bodies take the punishment of an NHL season?

We are seeing more & more NHL clubs wanting to get bigger & tougher not smaller. Montreal has been trying to get bigger, Buffalo has gotten bigger, it's becoming a common thread among NHL teams to get bigger for a reason but with players who can play every shift. It's not just about getting bigger but getting better too.

aragorn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.