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07-01-2012, 12:18 AM
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Tambellini isn't going to be doling out any longterm lucrative contracts tomorrow.
I hope not. I'm worried management will go out and sign our version of Brian Campbell to a ridiculous contract that will force us to trade one of the kids prematurely. If it was Suter that might be palatable, but if it's someone like Carle I'm going to lose my mind.

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07-01-2012, 12:19 AM
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Suter's agent is Neil Sheehy. I can't imagine Sheehy steering a client that he represents toward the Oil. I dunno. I might be out to lunch here, but I just can't imagine a world where this might happen. Edmonton was public enemy no. 1 when Sheehy played for the Flames, during one of the most intense rivalries in NHL history. I would love to see Suter an Oiler, but given Sheehy and Ryan's uncle Gary's history with the Flames, I just can't imagine it happening. Again, I'd love it, and it would be a great situation for Suter, but it just doesn't seem too plausible given the history there.
Dude, that's not going to be in anyway the reason if the Oil make a pitch and he turns it down. These are grown up's, on ice rivalries that happened 20+ years ago are long gone and have nothing to do with Ryan.

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Aye. I pray that Feaster is still GM in three years.
Unless he has bariatric surgery he won't be!

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07-01-2012, 12:24 AM
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Flames will strike out on Parise and Semin then offer Smyth a 4 year/ 18 million dollar contract, complete with a NMC.

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Offer Suter a huge front loaded contract and tell him to give us 3 years, and if he wants a trade we will facilitate it.

Year one 14M
Year two 14M
Year three 14M
Year four 7M
Year five 7M
Year six 7M
Year seven 3.5
Year eight 3.5M
Year nine 3.5M
Year ten 1.75M

Cap hit 7.525M

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07-01-2012, 12:32 AM
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Kulikov.
This is who i wanted in the 2009 draft... baaaaadly. But I also didnt think MPS would fall to us.

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07-01-2012, 12:35 AM
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Personally I think the Oilers may not make big moves on July 1st. They are going with an internal development strategy and focusing on a boys on the bus 2.0 model after adding Yakupov and Schultz.

I personally doubt they go out and get any big names like Suter (never a realistic target anyway) or Carle or any top forward either.

I think they must be pretty happy overall with what they have now and want to build on developing internal competition and development.

You need to leave some room there for developing dmen like Klefbom/Gernat/Musil/Marincin/Fedun/Teubert etc to have hope when they work towards getting onto that roster. Adding more dmen from outside the org with "longish" terms would somewhat defeat that internal development path.

Same goes for the forwards... it's getting to be a logjam already and you need room for guys like MPS/Hartikainen/Pitlick/Hamilton etc to have hope of coming up to the big team.

I personally would like to see them reward the home grown and internally developed talent from OKC instead of looking for many more UFA talents.

Saying that, I could see a trade possibility to shift an excess of what the Oilers have now for something that fills a hole as that makes more sense but acquiring a UFA and yet another contract is not really something they really need to do.

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07-01-2012, 12:43 AM
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Offer Suter a huge front loaded contract and tell him to give us 3 years, and if he wants a trade we will facilitate it.

Year one 14M
Year two 14M
Year three 14M
Year four 7M
Year five 7M
Year six 7M
Year seven 3.5
Year eight 3.5M
Year nine 3.5M
Year ten 1.75M

Cap hit 7.525M
Great idea. Shame it likely still wouldn't work. Worth a shot though.

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This is who i wanted in the 2009 draft... baaaaadly. But I also didnt think MPS would fall to us.
Me too, I love Kulikov. Shame he isn't going anywhere for a long time. I remember I got in quite the debate with a poster on the topic of Kulikov vs Kassian.

I too didn't consider the possibility that Paajarvi would fall to us.

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07-01-2012, 12:54 AM
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The only guy I realistically want on the UFA market is Prust. He would be a nice fit.

I think any other additions could be made via trades.

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07-01-2012, 12:55 AM
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Why is Jagr not re-signed by Philly yet? Want more money? Want to play somewhere? Pittsburgh or NYR?

Want to play with a country mate? Hemsky? Is that the reason why we we inexplicably re-signed Hemsky?

Okay okay, too much of a wild imagination!

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07-01-2012, 12:58 AM
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Methot would be a very nice pickup. Not a great puck mover but he would make the team more difficult to play against.
Solid defensive dman and apparently he has some leadership ability as well.
Good point on the leadership thing. This team lacks adequate leadership imo. Anything to add to the poor level of leadership we do have is more than welcome.

We would make this team harder to play against, he may also provide a source of push back when we are matched up against physical teams.

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Agreed, I wonder what the cost would be to aquire him?
I can't imagine it would be a whole lot. He isn't exactly a type of D-man to command too big of a return.

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What does Free Agency begin tomorrow in MDT time? 10am?

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Brownlee is tweeting the Oilers are going to take a run at Suter. As they should.

Can't see it working out though. But you still gotta try.

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What does Free Agency begin tomorrow in MDT time? 10am?
Yes... 12 noon EST so 10 am MDT

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07-01-2012, 01:13 AM
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We should have a little pool here... who'll be the very 1st UFA signed after the 12 noon start to "crazy money day" tomorrow?

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07-01-2012, 01:15 AM
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Good point on the leadership thing. This team lacks adequate leadership imo. Anything to add to the poor level of leadership we do have is more than welcome.

We would make this team harder to play against, he may also provide a source of push back when we are matched up against physical teams.
Agreed.
Its time that the phrase 'soft and easy to play against' is no longer used to describe the Oilers.
Push back indeed.

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Brownlee is tweeting the Oilers are going to take a run at Suter. As they should.

Can't see it working out though. But you still gotta try.
Might as well....we've got a Badgers connection now (again)...

(HF rage would be unreal though)

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We should have a little pool here... who'll be the very 1st UFA signed after the 12 noon start to "crazy money day" tomorrow?
Schultz to the Oil.......

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Hall-Nuge-Yak
Doan-Gags-Ebs
Smyth-Horc-Hemmer
Jones-Belanger-Petrell

Smid-Petry
Schultz-Schultz
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Dubey
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Love that lineup, wonder what Doan would be looking for money and term wise, and also wonder if the Schultz signing has created any "pull" for veteran free agents.

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I don't know how reliable John Sexsmith's sources are but he's saying that Jordin Tootoo is near the top of the Oilers' free agent wish list.

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Brownlee is tweeting the Oilers are going to take a run at Suter. As they should.

Can't see it working out though. But you still gotta try.
I agree. Top pairing d-men rarely come onto the market. Even though we don't stand a chance of getting him, we still have to try.

If we were to sign him, it would likely require something like Marincin28's idea of this contract.

Year one 14M - with a large signing bonus in case of lockout.
Year two 14M
Year three 14M
Year four 7M
Year five 7M
Year six 7M
Year seven 3.5
Year eight 3.5M
Year nine 3.5M
Year ten 1.75M

Cap hit 7.525M

I might even try to tack on another year or two @ 1.75 to get the cap hit down a bit more. 1 more year @ 1.75 takes him to 38 and reduces the cap hit to 7M. Another year takes him to 39 and reduces it to a very dealable 6.56M

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need another top 4 d-man IMO

Streit, Methot, Carle (UFA Signing)

and a gritty forward a la Doan/Smyth

Smid-Petry
??-J. Schultz
N. Schultz-Whitney
Sutton

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Good point on the leadership thing. This team lacks adequate leadership imo. Anything to add to the poor level of leadership we do have is more than welcome.

We would make this team harder to play against, he may also provide a source of push back when we are matched up against physical teams.



I can't imagine it would be a whole lot. He isn't exactly a type of D-man to command too big of a return.
I'd imagine they'd try and move a roster player forward the other way. Columbus meanwhile wants them to wait till they trade Nash and see what their needs are up front.

Thinking a Eager/Belanger move perhaps.

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Doan met with potential Coyotes owner Greg Jamison today and is now claiming that he won't sign with anyone until after July 8th, due the the Coyotes ownership situation. Speculation is that after July 8th there will be a pretty good understanding on whether the Coyotes stay in Phoenix or head up north to la belle province (Quebec, for those who didn't pay attention in French class)

There's a link in the main forums but I'm just about to head out... Look there if you wish to find it.

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Schultz to the Oil.......
Out on a limb and say.......

Steve Eminger in Ana.

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