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06-30-2012, 06:16 PM
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Kessel, Liles, Grabovski, and Lupul should be the only four to debate between IMO

Kessel is a quiet leader, had the A on his jersey most of last season (especially the 2nd half) and he is our hardest worker on the ice IMO, besides possibly Grabovski and Kulemin (I think he gives it his all, even if people don't believe me)

Lupul seems like a good guy for the A as well, pretty vocal, and from what we heard/saw at the all-star game seems like a good guy.

Grabovski doesn't seem like a vocal leader either IMO, mostly cause of the language barrier and I think he's alright at english, but not the best (I can't remember the last interview with him I saw was...)

Liles is great in the community and seems like he would be awesome in the locker room, so Carlyle would know this better then me just how good he is in the locker room (along with who the best choice is probably) but from what I see seems like a class guy.

I'd pick one of Liles/Lupul and one of Kessel/Grabovski (One vocal locker room guy, one silent leave it all on the ice player)

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06-30-2012, 06:21 PM
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Kessel, Liles, Grabovski, and Lupul should be the only four to debate between IMO

Kessel is a quiet leader, had the A on his jersey most of last season (especially the 2nd half) and he is our hardest worker on the ice IMO, besides possibly Grabovski and Kulemin (I think he gives it his all, even if people don't believe me)

Lupul seems like a good guy for the A as well, pretty vocal, and from what we heard/saw at the all-star game seems like a good guy.

Grabovski doesn't seem like a vocal leader either IMO, mostly cause of the language barrier and I think he's alright at english, but not the best (I can't remember the last interview with him I saw was...)

Liles is great in the community and seems like he would be awesome in the locker room, so Carlyle would know this better then me just how good he is in the locker room (along with who the best choice is probably) but from what I see seems like a class guy.

I'd pick one of Liles/Lupul and one of Kessel/Grabovski (One vocal locker room guy, one silent leave it all on the ice player)
Kessel is an Introvert
Lupul makes sense
Grabovski leads by example and determination
Liles no, just because he is not Lupul or Grabovski

Verdict: Grabovski, signed long term and excites the crowd and bench with his play. Dropped the gloves in defense of Ashton.

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06-30-2012, 06:24 PM
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C - Phaneuf
A - Lupul
A - Grabovski

There should be no other answer.

Unfortunately Komi gets an A over Grabo.

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06-30-2012, 06:25 PM
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C - Phaneuf
A - Lupul
A - Grabovski

There should be no other answer.

Unfortunately Komi gets an A over Grabo.
Thats how I would have it myself. Just as you have listed.

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06-30-2012, 06:26 PM
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Well the order for the A last season went:

Komisarek
Armstrong
Grabovski
Kessel
Liles

Based off of that, it would be Grabovski, but personally I wouldn't mind seeing Lupul get it. Though none of this matters since these were really all Wilson's picks.

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06-30-2012, 06:29 PM
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Kessel is an Introvert
Lupul makes sense
Grabovski leads by example and determination
Liles no, just because he is not Lupul or Grabovski

Verdict: Grabovski, signed long term and excites the crowd and bench with his play. Dropped the gloves in defense of Ashton.
I don't see why Kessel being an introvert would make him a bad alternate captain... but I do think the most logical are (in order):

Lupul
Grabovski
Kessel
Liles

It might just be because I'm a big fan of kessel haha, but when you're best player looks like he always works his ass off (except a few games where he was getting run over and nobody was defending him... such as the Boston game and against Montreal when he almost fought Subban) and pretty much runs your offense, you have to give him some consideration IMO...

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06-30-2012, 06:31 PM
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JML.

The 'A' isn't something you give as a reward, or even a position of leadership.

The 'A' is given to interface with the officials. So they 1) need to be on the ice a lot (particularly when the other A/C is not) and 2) need to be fluent & convincing.

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06-30-2012, 06:41 PM
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JML.

The 'A' isn't something you give as a reward, or even a position of leadership.

The 'A' is given to interface with the officials. So they 1) need to be on the ice a lot (particularly when the other A/C is not) and 2) need to be fluent & convincing.
Lupul

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Interesting seeing the differing opinions.

I would really like to see Grabovski wear the other "A".

He gives 100% every shift. If Komisarek is an alternate captain because he is a vocal leader in the dressing room, then Grabovski would be a perfect guy to lead by example on the ice.

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06-30-2012, 06:46 PM
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JML.

The 'A' isn't something you give as a reward, or even a position of leadership.

The 'A' is given to interface with the officials. So they 1) need to be on the ice a lot (particularly when the other A/C is not) and 2) need to be fluent & convincing.
This. Someone who understands the game, communicates well and has the respect of the officials.

Lupul fits that bill, as far as I can see, as does Liles. I don't know enough about Grabovski's rapport with the officials to know whether there's an issue there, but there would appear to be a language concern. Gotta love him though! Kessel seems to have earned more respect with his play last season, and he's smart - probably merits consideration.

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06-30-2012, 06:57 PM
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C - Phaneuf
A - Komisarek
A - Grabovski
A - JML or Lupul (When Komisarek is a scratch)

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06-30-2012, 07:37 PM
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Kessel is an Introvert
Lupul makes sense
Grabovski leads by example and determination
Liles no, just because he is not Lupul or Grabovski

Verdict: Grabovski, signed long term and excites the crowd and bench with his play. Dropped the gloves in defense of Ashton.
And your best player should feel like he is the most important part of the team...Even if it's only a letter!!!

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Not enough of an impact player IMO.

I would give it to either Grabo or Lupul. Kessel doesn't scream leader to me. Also Lupul was the alternate for the all star game

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Grabo + Lupul/Kessel/JML

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Lupul the notorious party animal who has again found himself in trouble with a pretty regular puck bunny? That Lupul?

I think a consummate professional on and off the ice would be a better choice.

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Grabo gets it full time now.

Its BS that he only had it as an injury replacement.

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Grabo gets it full time now.

Its BS that he only had it as an injury replacement.
Ya, he really is the heart and soul of this team.

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I know Kessel's a shy guy and all, but I liked him with the "A".

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I don't care who it is but it better be a player that has no chance of being a healthy scratch like Army and Komi .

It was a flipping disgrace when they stripped Kabs and handed A's to these two .
I agree completely.

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JML.

The 'A' isn't something you give as a reward, or even a position of leadership.

The 'A' is given to interface with the officials. So they 1) need to be on the ice a lot (particularly when the other A/C is not) and 2) need to be fluent & convincing.
The A and C, also liaise between management/coach and the team to "carry" the party line. And the A/C also have media communication roles as well.

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I think that it's gonna be either Liles or Grabo as our new Alternate Captain.

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I think that it's gonna be either Liles or Grabo as our new Alternate Captain.

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If Komi relinquishes his letter (which I doubt) then yeah, it would probably be both of them.

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It's Alternate Captain, not Assistant Captain.
It's either, not a big deal

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