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WILL Dan Boyle get traded?

View Poll Results: Do you think Dan Boyle WILL be traded?
Yes 11 12.64%
No 29 33.33%
Not sure 5 5.75%
Only if the right offer comes our way, otherwise no, DW won't 42 48.28%
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07-17-2012, 10:24 AM
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Boyle may be on the trade-block.
If he's going to trade Boyle... Who's going to replace him? That's the bigger question.

My guesses would be either Yandle (we haven't heard a peep about that in awhile) or Weber (obviously). But who else could be on the block? Yandle makes some sense because say DW trades Boyle for Gaborik (or another forward, take your pick), he then does not need to trade for Nash. Instead he trades Pavelski + Clowe to Phoenix (who are in need of forwards) for Yandle. Something along those lines.

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Havlat and Gaborik on the same team ... ugh. Why not trade for Tim Connolly while you're at it and you can have the oft-injured line.

Gaborik - Connolly - Havlat ... yikes

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If he's going to trade Boyle... Who's going to replace him? That's the bigger question.
Matt Irwin. I thought we covered this.

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Havlat and Gaborik on the same team ... ugh. Why not trade for Tim Connolly while you're at it and you can have the oft-injured line.

Gaborik - Connolly - Havlat ... yikes
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Boyle may be on the trade-block.
I hope it would only be for a player of Gaborik's caliber or greater. I have always had a giant man-crush on Gaborik and would trade almost any player for him no matter how stupid that sounds.

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Havlat and Gaborik on the same team ... ugh. Why not trade for Tim Connolly while you're at it and you can have the oft-injured line.

Gaborik - Connolly - Havlat ... yikes
Very few people actually know this, but when those 3 are actually on the ice together their strengths combine to create a force field around each of them. It kind of looks like the northern lights.

Boyle for Gaborik is surprising. Maybe Tortorella has something do with that since he had Boyle in Tampa. I don't know, that trade just seems weird to me.

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07-17-2012, 10:31 AM
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If he's going to trade Boyle... Who's going to replace him? That's the bigger question.

My guesses would be either Yandle (we haven't heard a peep about that in awhile) or Weber (obviously). But who else could be on the block? Yandle makes some sense because say DW trades Boyle for Gaborik (or another forward, take your pick), he then does not need to trade for Nash. Instead he trades Pavelski + Clowe to Phoenix (who are in need of forwards) for Yandle. Something along those lines.
I believe the reason for trading for Burns was that he could some day replace Boyle. After last season he doesn't appear to be ready for that but who knows.

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If he's going to trade Boyle... Who's going to replace him? That's the bigger question.

My guesses would be either Yandle (we haven't heard a peep about that in awhile) or Weber (obviously). But who else could be on the block? Yandle makes some sense because say DW trades Boyle for Gaborik (or another forward, take your pick), he then does not need to trade for Nash. Instead he trades Pavelski + Clowe to Phoenix (who are in need of forwards) for Yandle. Something along those lines.
I get the impression that Doug doesn't think the Sharks need to replace Boyle at all. If he does move Boyle for a forward, I think he's confident enough with the 6 d he'd be left with.

At least this confirms that Doug is exploring different avenues, and not just waiting on Doan and Nash.

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I believe the reason for trading for Burns was that he could some day replace Boyle. After last season he doesn't appear to be ready for that but who knows.
Oh I agree, and as the #1 I am more than happy to replace Boyne with Burns long term, but you still need to replace Boyle's 50 points compared to last year. Burns is not going to go from ~40p to 90p to cover that loss, and I don't see Demers or Braun being ready yet to produce those kinds of numbers. Stuart/Vlasic/Murray certainly will not.

Basically I can't imagine Doug Wilson going with a worse defense from last season. He's been trying to build a top-5 blue line for some time now, trading Boyle knocks us way down the list unless he's got someone else in mind.

I honestly think he's got a deal lined up and ready to go but needs to move Boyle first. Yandle makes a lot of sense.

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I get the impression that Doug doesn't think the Sharks need to replace Boyle at all. If he does move Boyle for a forward, I think he's confident enough with the 6 d he'd be left with.

At least this confirms that Doug is exploring different avenues, and not just waiting on Doan and Nash.

Going from:

Vlasic - Boyle
Murray - Burns
White - Braun
Demers

To

Vlasic - Burns
Stuart - Braun
Murray - Demers
Irwin

Is a step back imo. Plus we've heard a lot of rumblings about Demers being trade bait, how do you even make that work without Demers?

I think we are getting another d-man, just my gut feeling.

Vlasic - Burns
Staurt - Yandle
Murray - Braun/Demers

Looks like a long term solution.

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I would do it, you could have something like 90 goals sitting on the bench for 3/4's of the season

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So, what other top-6 speedy forwards are possibly available on a team that could use Dan Boyle and would not be on Boyle's list?

Kesler (doubtful because of rivalry)
Booth (same as above, not good enough either)
Iginla (too old, Calgary likely on Boyle's list)
Patrick Kane (Probably not DW's type of player, and they don't NEED Boyle)
Neal (Pen's probably can't afford to trade a winger, maybe if we sent Clowe back too)
Stastny (not really a great fit)
Duchene (not that fast)
Franzen
Ryan (Inter division, but intriguing)
Grabner (need more though from NYI for Boyle, probably on Boyle's list)
Okposo (Probably on Boyles list)

That's what I can come up with. Some interesting options there.

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So, what other top-6 speedy forwards are possibly available on a team that could use Dan Boyle and would not be on Boyle's list?

Kesler (doubtful because of rivalry)
Boyle and Niemi for Kesler and Luongo?

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Boyle and Niemi for Kesler and Luongo?
Boyle + Clowe

for

Kesler + Edler

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Boyle + Clowe

for

Kesler + Edler

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i think the sharks would need to throw in a prospect or a pick to even that up a bit.

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Vancouver wouldn't trade Edler for Boyle straight up, let alone Kesler for Clowe.

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Boyle + Clowe

for

Kesler + Edler

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LOL I think we'd be throwing Couture into that proposal. That's a 26-year-old #2 defenseman and one of the best #2C's in the game for a declining 36-year-old defenseman and an injury-ravaged, barely-a-top-6 LW.

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i think the sharks would need to throw in a prospect or a pick to even that up a bit.
Why? Edler has one year left and this would only be done similar to the Burns deal. Vancouver knows they can't resign Edler. In that case, it makes sense. Still, Kesler was the main point.

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Vancouver wouldn't trade Edler for Boyle straight up, let alone Kesler for Clowe.
He's a UFA in one season and so far they can't get him re-signed. He's been talked about in trade talks quite a bit. Regardless, we could throw picks/prospects in depending.

How about

Boyle + Clowe + Conditional 1st

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Kesler + Edler

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Oh I agree, and as the #1 I am more than happy to replace Boyne with Burns long term, but you still need to replace Boyle's 50 points compared to last year. Burns is not going to go from ~40p to 90p to cover that loss, and I don't see Demers or Braun being ready yet to produce those kinds of numbers. Stuart/Vlasic/Murray certainly will not.

Basically I can't imagine Doug Wilson going with a worse defense from last season. He's been trying to build a top-5 blue line for some time now, trading Boyle knocks us way down the list unless he's got someone else in mind.

I honestly think he's got a deal lined up and ready to go but needs to move Boyle first. Yandle makes a lot of sense.




Going from:

Vlasic - Boyle
Murray - Burns
White - Braun
Demers

To

Vlasic - Burns
Stuart - Braun
Murray - Demers
Irwin

Is a step back imo. Plus we've heard a lot of rumblings about Demers being trade bait, how do you even make that work without Demers?

I think we are getting another d-man, just my gut feeling.

Vlasic - Burns
Staurt - Yandle
Murray - Braun/Demers

Looks like a long term solution.
I think something like Pavelski+Demers/Braun+Clowe for Yandle+Boedker might be something that's good for both sides Phoenix gets a jolt in the top-6 with two legit offensive players coming into the system, both guys that would fit into their system well. Hanzal-Pavelski is a formidable 1-2 center punch. Demers/Braun is another young righty. With a potential defense of OEL-Rundblad, Gormley-Demers/Braun, that's a scary-talented group. We get a lefty PMD who's young and locked up long-term at a very good price, and a young potential top-6 winger (I think him for Demers straight up is good value-wise).

Then you trade Boyle for Gaborik, and you get:

Boedker-Thornton-Gaborik
Marleau-Couture-Havlat

Vlasic-Burns
Yandle-Stuart
Murray-Braun/Demers (whichever hasn't been traded)

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Boyle and Niemi for Kesler and Luongo?
I'd do that everyday and twice on sundays.

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So who's gonna be Vancouver's #2C, in that scenario?

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So who's gonna be Vancouver's #2C, in that scenario?
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Exactly.
Haha, true. I just know there have been some rumblings of unhappiness surrounding Kesler. He's not ideal anyway because we don't need another center. Let's just drop it since it's pretty unlikely anyway.

If we are trading with a rival then Bobby Ryan is probably a better target anyway. Though, i don't know if Anaheim is stupid enough to believe they are a contender.

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Haha, true. I just know there have been some rumblings of unhappiness surrounding Kesler. He's not ideal anyway because we don't need another center. Let's just drop it since it's pretty unlikely anyway.

If we are trading with a rival then Bobby Ryan is probably a better target anyway. Though, i don't know if Anaheim is stupid enough to believe they are a contender.
They have Salami back! So of course the idiots down here think they are contender this year!

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