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01-05-2005, 09:51 AM
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Steve Ott

Seems like he is benefitting from playing in the AHL especially recently. Can anyone comment on his recent play

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01-05-2005, 01:48 PM
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He's been really playing well for the Dogs the last month, his offensive production has been welcomed and he's scored some pretty awesome goals.

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Good news and bad news.

Bad news is that his offensive ceiling is very low. Over a 80 game season, I don't think he can score more than 10 goals, 30 points (unless the coach unrealistically gives his 1st line + PP minutes). Even in the AHL, his offense is weak and he lacks creativity. The goals I have seen him score are garbage goals driven out of pure hustle. His playmaking isn't excellent either.

Good news is that he will be a great pest at the NHL level. He will be able to play 500+ NHL games and have a distinguished career as a top pest. Why? Because of his consistency. He does not take nights off. He does the same thing (pulls the same **** every night) and few pests / energy guys persistently do that night in night out. What you see is what you get.

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He's a cheap, turtling, jackass.

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01-06-2005, 03:23 PM
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Good news and bad news.

Bad news is that his offensive ceiling is very low. Over a 80 game season, I don't think he can score more than 10 goals, 30 points (unless the coach unrealistically gives his 1st line + PP minutes). Even in the AHL, his offense is weak and he lacks creativity. The goals I have seen him score are garbage goals driven out of pure hustle. His playmaking isn't excellent either.

Good news is that he will be a great pest at the NHL level. He will be able to play 500+ NHL games and have a distinguished career as a top pest. Why? Because of his consistency. He does not take nights off. He does the same thing (pulls the same **** every night) and few pests / energy guys persistently do that night in night out. What you see is what you get.
You know i would take that but what explains his recent scoring binge. I always thought with some maturity and if the game slowed up for him his hustle alone would allow him to put up 10-30 regularly. To me, he increasingly looks like Avery or Dimaio with attitude

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01-06-2005, 03:32 PM
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You know i would take that but what explains his recent scoring binge. I always thought with some maturity and if the game slowed up for him his hustle alone would allow him to put up 10-30 regularly. To me, he increasingly looks like Avery or Dimaio with attitude
10 goals 30 points in the NHL I mean, he is defintely going to score more than that in the AHL.

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He's a cheap, turtling, jackass.
That every team would love to have......

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That every team would love to have......
His play didn't impress me. All I saw all night was him hacking away at every Amerk and cross checking people in the back. Then when someone challenges him, he runs away and turtles. No thanks. You can have him.

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His play didn't impress me. All I saw all night was him hacking away at every Amerk and cross checking people in the back. Then when someone challenges him, he runs away and turtles. No thanks. You can have him.
Shocking...fan of another team doesnt like him. Means he's doing his job perfectly.

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Ott has finally settled in with the Bulldogs and is now doing the job everyone expected of him. I really believe that for one reason or another his heart wasn't fully into playing in the AHL. About a month ago I think he came to terms with the fact that there will be no NHL season and has picked up his play considerable.

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alot of people hate this guy, the next barnaby?

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alot of people hate this guy, the next barnaby?
Pretty nice compare

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I'd think a moderately less skilled version of Barnaby seems possible. Barney has skills (100+ points and 40+ goals in junior, PPG at the AHL level, 3 15+ goal NHL seasons and a pair of 40 point NHL seasons) that I don't know Ott has in him. But if he works at it, who knows?

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I think skill wise they very very close. Actually I think Ott had better offensive #'s in juniors. My question would be will be more of a true pest like Tyson Nash, or someone who will scrap a bit more like Barnaby? Iam guessing the latter

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I'd think a moderately less skilled version of Barnaby seems possible. Barney has skills (100+ points and 40+ goals in junior, PPG at the AHL level, 3 15+ goal NHL seasons and a pair of 40 point NHL seasons) that I don't know Ott has in him. But if he works at it, who knows?
ott scored 116 goals (high of 50) and 237 points in 175 OHL games over 3 years
barnaby scored 82 goals and 191 points in 180 games over 3 years in QMJHL I actually think Ott will end up better than Barnaby

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I'd think a moderately less skilled version of Barnaby seems possible. Barney has skills (100+ points and 40+ goals in junior, PPG at the AHL level, 3 15+ goal NHL seasons and a pair of 40 point NHL seasons) that I don't know Ott has in him. But if he works at it, who knows?
Ott has a lot of untapped offensive potential left. I think it's fair to say he'd contribute more in the future in comparison to Matthew Barnaby's average season. 20 Goals someday is definitely not out of the question, he just needs a few more years on the lower lines in order to earn his ticket to a more offensive role. Don't forget that Steve Ott was on pace with teammate Jason Spezza in terms of points when they were playing for the Spitfires.

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I really like Steve Ott, even as an opposition fan..

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Shocking...fan of another team doesnt like him. Means he's doing his job perfectly.
Exactly, that is what he is on the ice to do like it or not.

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I really like Steve Ott, even as an opposition fan..
Either;

1) You have a soft spot for dirty, cheap, annoying pests
2) You're related to him
3) He bullied you in high school but it made you into the man you're today
4) You're a closet Stars fan
5) He gives you butterflies..

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01-15-2005, 10:42 AM
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Either;

1) You have a soft spot for dirty, cheap, annoying pests
2) You're related to him
3) He bullied you in high school but it made you into the man you're today
4) You're a closet Stars fan
5) He gives you butterflies..
Or maybe he has the right to like whoever he wants to like.

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Originally Posted by Ott = Snott
Either;

1) You have a soft spot for dirty, cheap, annoying pests
2) You're related to him
3) He bullied you in high school but it made you into the man you're today
4) You're a closet Stars fan
5) He gives you butterflies..
I like Ott. For me it's gotta be option 1.






And a little bit of 5.

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Ott racked up 41 pims last night!

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I don't think Ott will ever be Barnaby per se, he's not good enough of a fighter, and he doesn't fight heavies. Barnaby is one of the most frequent fighters over the last decade, though he mostly fights people out of his league. No pest out there now has the guts or even fighting ability that Barnaby has. But Ott is, compared to pest nowadays, a pretty willing fighter.

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01-16-2005, 11:39 AM
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I don't think Ott will ever be Barnaby per se, he's not good enough of a fighter, and he doesn't fight heavies
Yes he does. And Ott fought 15 times last season, as a sophomore.

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Yes he does. And Ott fought 15 times last season, as a sophomore.
....First, I stated that Ott is a willing fighter, so I don't get the point of your second sentence.

Second, he fought one legit heavy last year, Norton, so you are wrong.

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