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07-01-2012, 08:56 PM
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If Weber comes, Edler goes one way or another. As you said, it doesn't make sense otherwise. That's a bridge we'll likely never have to cross but whatever.
Not nessesarily. Bieksa is a valued piece around the league, but not as much as Edler. I'm sure Nashville would be enticed by a Bieksa, 1st round, + for Weber.

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BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM. Jason ****ING Garrison.

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Wasn't he who wrote a whole article trashing the Sedins in 2011 for being -9/-11 in the playoffs? Pretty sure he's a Hawks fan, too.

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ignore him. he lost any shred of credibility when he was asked on bill simmons' podcast which sedin is the shooter and he said, "they take turns." this was just before last year's finals. the two previous scoring champs... even simmons was like, "no, that can't be right. one of them is definitely the hooter."

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Wasn't Wysh the guy that asked Luo that terrible question after game 4 of the Final?

Real professional guy.

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I said yesterday that I couldn't care less about not winning the Schultz sweepstakes as long as we got Garrison.

We'll see the dffernce between the two on the ice...and it will be noriceable.

Now, Schultz certainly has upside potential. Potential.

But I'll take what Garrison brings to the table now..and winning now is what this is about for the Canucks.

As for the term, is there a downside to locking up a mature and gifted defenseman for the absolute peak years of his career?

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hope the hate on some of you have for Gillis can cool off now.


Very good deal.

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If Weber comes, Edler goes one way or another. As you said, it doesn't make sense otherwise. That's a bridge we'll likely never have to cross but whatever.
But guys, both Edler and Hamhuis are LD, why are you talking about these guys going?

If Weber reaches FA, he will be the most saught after Dman in recent history, so who knows what will happen.


But hypothetically, if we got him, we could easily slot him in - AND I think he should play beside one of Edler or Hamhuis.

Edler Weber
Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev

It could be done.

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Very happy about this deal.

This is below market value with todays cap by a ton.

Gives us Bieksa Hamhuis Garrison next 4 seasons, Ballard is around for a couple more but will likely be gone and Edler we can deal with this upcoming season.

We needed that big shot on the PP with the departure of Salo.

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When I saw the signing I was sitting by myself, browsing hf on my iphone, waiting for my food order to arrive. I instinctively said "Boom!". Only then did I realize how awkward it must have looked to everyone else around me. Woops. Lol.

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I'm worried this one might come back to haunt us. 6 years is a long time for a player with really only 1 good season. I suppose the positive spin is that he seems solid defensively and in a few years his cap hit will probably look like a bargain the way dmen are valued.

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Why give this guy hits and attention? **** him. There's people in this world who still thinks the world is round. The difference is everyone knows they're ****ing stupid and ignores him.

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hope the hate on some of you have for Gillis can cool off now.


Very good deal.
I'd give it a week or two. The "What have you done for me lately" attitude will re-surface if we miss out on Doan.

Great signing though. Garrison should help stabilize this defence.

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Very cool.

Haven't seen our fanbase this excited about an incoming defenseman since...

...well...

...Ballard.

 
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Very cool.

Haven't seen our fanbase this excited about an incoming defenseman since...

...well...

...Ballard.
Hamhuis... He signed after we got Ballard.

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Very cool.

Haven't seen our fanbase this excited about an incoming defenseman since...

...well...

...Ballard.
*cough* Hamhuis.

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But guys, both Edler and Hamhuis are LD, why are you talking about these guys going?

If Weber reaches FA, he will be the most saught after Dman in recent history, so who knows what will happen.


But hypothetically, if we got him, we could easily slot him in - AND I think he should play beside one of Edler or Hamhuis.

Edler Weber
Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev

It could be done.
but what i m saying is you have top 4 occupying probably 45 mins of a game and so you are gonna just play garrison for 15 mins a game while paying 4.6 million a year? not very good resource management if you ask me.

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Hamhuis... He signed after we got Ballard.


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They're both RH so that's unlikely. We could see Ballard-Garrison happening, but I don't think their styles are complementary.
Garrison is left handed, no?

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Why give this guy hits and attention? **** him.
The self-appointed 'Puck Daddy' is nothing more than a blogger with an axe to grind. He should steer clear of the Canucks entirely as he's unable to provide opinions that aren't irretrievably tainted by bias and anger.

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But guys, both Edler and Hamhuis are LD, why are you talking about these guys going?

If Weber reaches FA, he will be the most saught after Dman in recent history, so who knows what will happen.


But hypothetically, if we got him, we could easily slot him in - AND I think he should play beside one of Edler or Hamhuis.

Edler Weber
Hamhuis Bieksa
Garrison Tanev

It could be done.
It definitely could be done. Although having to sign both Edler and Weber next year as UFA's might be a bit much. I am down with Garrison on the third pairing with more of a PMD on the 2nd pairing though.

If we had kept the Hoff at 5 though imagine...

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Ehrhoff
Garrison - Tanev

all for 22.85. Oh Gillis.

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Very cool.

Haven't seen our fanbase this excited about an incoming defenseman since...

...well...

...Ballard.
You mean Dan Hamhuis. Hamhuis was brought in after Ballard, the fans were excited and it proved to be a very astute pickup.

Florida fans warned us about Ballard and to a lesser extent with Booth but the general consensus among their fans is that this is a good addition.

Not too worried about the term. He's 32 in his final year - shouldn't regress over the life of the contract.

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but what i m saying is you have top 4 occupying probably 45 mins of a game and so you are gonna just play garrison for 15 mins a game while paying 4.6 million a year? not very good resource management if you ask me.
I don't think 4.6 per for an amazing bottom pairing D is too absurd, considering how friggin high the cap is at these days - and who knows if it will get even higher. I mean, a lot of these bottom pairing guys make something like 3.5, so an extra million for vast upgrade isn't too bad, in todays cap climate.

But i get your point. Hopefully Gillis and Gilman could work something out.

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I don't know why people think he's just had one goood season. From what I recall from panther fan he had a pretty good season previous to this one with Weaver as his d-partner.

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