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07-04-2012, 03:46 PM
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Question about prospects/line-up

Hi guys, I've got a question about the roster for next year...I don't follow the team too closely but I was wondering what the chances of Holland, Palmieri and Etem all being on the opening night roster and actually holding down spots are? Ignoring the speculation about Ryan for a moment what will the lines generally look like next year?

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07-04-2012, 03:55 PM
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Palmieri should be a lock to be in the starting lineup. I'd say Holland and Etem have a 40% chance of making the opening day roster.

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07-04-2012, 03:56 PM
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Close to zero.

Assuming Ryan is on the team, the lines look this-ish:
XXX - Getzlaf - Perry
XXX - Bonino/Holland/Koivu - Selanne
Ryan - Bonino/Holland/Koivu - XXX
Beleskey - Holland/Bonino - Staubitz

Fill those XXX's in with someone from among Cogliano, Smith-Pelly, Palmieri, McMillan, Etem, or Maroon.

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07-04-2012, 03:57 PM
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I think the possibilities are in this order:

Palmieri
Holland
Etem

That order is actually about their current NHL experience, which they have for a reason imo.

Etem is a year younger though, and i think he`ll get more games than Holly last year (4). But Holly could see some more games this season tofor sure.

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07-04-2012, 04:07 PM
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Yeah Palmieri has the best chance right now and comments from management seem to be that our center position could be best filled from within so if Holland continues to have a good camp and such he has a good chance but nothing is set yet for him.

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07-04-2012, 04:57 PM
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Yeah Palmieri has the best chance right now and comments from management seem to be that our center position could be best filled from within so if Holland continues to have a good camp and such he has a good chance but nothing is set yet for him.
If Palmieri doesn't make the team as a full-time guy (or at least play half of the season), he should be traded or ask to be traded. After what he's done at the WC, he's proven that he can somewhat hang with and succeed with NHL level guys full time.

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07-04-2012, 06:21 PM
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I think Holland (based on what I've heard) looks like he has better than a 40% chance of making the team. Especially if we don't sign or trade for a center.

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07-04-2012, 06:29 PM
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I think Holland and Palmieri will be on the roster at this point, as others have said, but Id guess the chances Etem is is pretty close to zero, unless Ryan gets traded or Selanne retires.

Everything pretty much gets blown up if one of those two things happen.

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07-04-2012, 07:58 PM
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DSP/Maroon - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Holland - Palmieri
Cogliano - Koivu - Selanne/Etem
Beleskey/McMillan - Bonino - Staubitz


Beauchemin/Allen - Fowler
Beauchemin/Allen - Sbisa
Souray - Lydman

Hiller
Deslauriers/Fasth

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DSP/Maroon - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Holland - Palmieri
Cogliano - Koivu - Selanne/Etem
Beleskey/McMillan - Bonino - Staubitz


Beauchemin/Allen - Fowler
Beauchemin/Allen - Sbisa
Souray - Lydman

Hiller
Deslauriers/Fasth
Pretty much spot on IMO at this point.

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07-04-2012, 08:35 PM
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DSP/Maroon - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - Holland - Palmieri
Cogliano - Koivu - Selanne/Etem
Beleskey/McMillan - Bonino - Staubitz


Beauchemin/Allen - Fowler
Beauchemin/Allen - Sbisa
Souray - Lydman

Hiller
Deslauriers/Fasth
Not a chance Maroon is on the top line.

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07-04-2012, 09:04 PM
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Not a chance Maroon is on the top line.
Why not? He was our best AHL player, and in his few NHL games last year he was with Getz and Perry. Not saying it's definite he'll play there.

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07-04-2012, 09:17 PM
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DSP=Getz=Pears
Ryan=Holland/Bonino=Palmieri
Cogliano=Koivu=Selanne
Beleskey=Bonino/Holland=McMillan/Staubitz

Beauch=Fowler
Allen=Sbisa
Lydman=Souray

Hiller
Fasth

Unless Bobby is traded which I hope he isn't.

Also Holland seemed to learn from working with Trent in the AHL, I think he can learn more from him.

I'd like to see Etem in the AHL and either be a BEAST so much so that his actions DEMAND he is promoted or since he is left handed and this team has need for left wingers he should take the season to work on playing the left side.

I know I have heard and seen video of how great Sami Vatanen but I think it (unless camp shows otherwise) wise to have him show what an awesome man he is in the AHL also not to mention show good faith to Norfolk that we want a strong team down there.

I can't wait for training camp to see the mid level prospects that may surprise some of us - Wagner, Clark, Maroon etc.

I know a lot of people don't like the idea of Maroon coming up, but if he worked with the same skating coach as Bobby and Nick Bonino, then he may turn some heads...if not then I would guess he is going to be a Great Alternate Captain in Norfolk

my $.02

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My main question is...will Selanne still be on the first PP unit? People say Bobby Ryan is a streaky guy and what not and I agree with that somewhat, but most of his goals are scored at even strength and he is playing on the 2nd PP unit. If we keep Bobby Ryan, do we put Ryan on the first PP unit this year or does Selanne still get it?

Get max potential from Bobby Ryan or help Selanne pad his stats?

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07-04-2012, 09:26 PM
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I think we go with whom ever is better and I think that Teemu at this point is a power play specialist and will be on the 1st power play. That said I believe that our 2nd power play is going to be MUCH more dangerous then in the past with Jason Blake on it.

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07-04-2012, 09:27 PM
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Selanne is the better PP guy so you keep him there. The PP is his bread and butter, he's 4th all time in PP goals and is always among the league leaders in PP goals/points. His ability to find open ice in the offensive zone is unreal, we don't have anybody on the team that can get open like Teemu can. It's why he is still such an effective player at 42.

I just hope Boudreau uses the PP properly this year and doesn't have Teemu handling the puck all the time.

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Selanne is the better PP guy so you keep him there. The PP is his bread and butter, he's 4th all time in PP goals and is always among the league leaders in PP goals/points. His ability to find open ice in the offensive zone is unreal, we don't have anybody on the team that can get open like Teemu can. It's why he is still such an effective player at 42.

I just hope Boudreau uses the PP properly this year and doesn't have Teemu handling the puck all the time.
I agree Teemu is the best. But it just seems to be that Bobby Ryan could very well succeed and score even more goals if he was on the 1st PP unit. Unfortunately there is no place for him on the 1st PP unit with Corey, Getzlaf, Teemu already there.

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I agree Teemu is the best. But it just seems to be that Bobby Ryan could very well succeed and score even more goals if he was on the 1st PP unit. Unfortunately there is no place for him on the 1st PP unit with Corey, Getzlaf, Teemu already there.
It would definitely benefit Bobby to get that first PP Time.

Its just best for the team with Teemu there. Carlyle tried a 4 Forward PP with Ryan involved at the start of 10-11, so its possible that Boudreau tries something similar, but Ryan makes the second unit relevant.

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There seems to be a bit of a developmental log-jam between Etem, Maroon and Smith-Pelly. Not enough roster spots to go around and all are in that critical stage of their development where they need ice-time and to be challenged. Its a good problem to have no doubt, I just wonder how the team will manage it.

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There seems to be a bit of a developmental log-jam between Etem, Maroon and Smith-Pelly. Not enough roster spots to go around and all are in that critical stage of their development where they need ice-time and to be challenged. Its a good problem to have no doubt, I just wonder how the team will manage it.
It's questionable whether Maroon and Etem are ready.

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There seems to be a bit of a developmental log-jam between Etem, Maroon and Smith-Pelly. Not enough roster spots to go around and all are in that critical stage of their development where they need ice-time and to be challenged. Its a good problem to have no doubt, I just wonder how the team will manage it.
Etem hasn't played a professional game yet, he can still learn a ton in the AHL. If he proves to be good for the AHL then he can easily be called up. Maroon is on the verge of being a career AHLer at this point, either he improves his skating and lands a bottom 6 spot or he'll be in the AHL again. DSP is pretty much a lock and has a skill set that allows him to play on any line so there's no issue there.

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Etem hasn't played a professional game yet, he can still learn a ton in the AHL. If he proves to be good for the AHL then he can easily be called up. Maroon is on the verge of being a career AHLer at this point, either he improves his skating and lands a bottom 6 spot or he'll be in the AHL again. DSP is pretty much a lock and has a skill set that allows him to play on any line so there's no issue there.
Agree with you here, other than Etem played a handful of AHL games last year lol.

Maroon's my dark horse to make the team.

We still have guys like McMillan, Sexy, Caputi who can make the team with an excellent camp(Gordon style).

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07-05-2012, 12:14 AM
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Wasn't sexton pretty much a non factor in Syracuse? Or am I remembering wrong?

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Palmieri 1st for sure. Even Teemu said last year that Palmieri will be a good player scoring points in NHL very soon.

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Ducks seem to be hoping their young guns at forward to step up this year... especially with Bob's comments about the difference between d and forwards, etc.

I expect Holland to make a strong push for a center position.

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