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07-02-2012, 01:28 PM
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We do have a hole (at forward position at minimum) in the roster.

Trading MJ and/or Laich and something for Ryan makes it 2 holes probably. And then our C depth is ruined, and Ribeiro is soon to be UFA.

WHY?

To trade 2013 #1 for good RFA would be better probably.

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07-02-2012, 01:29 PM
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I wasn't trying to be an ass, just genuinely interested if you'd heard something.

If that's the case, I won't be able to wrap my head around not pursuing Suter.
Well, that depends on the prices, I think. At some point.. he ain't Lidstrom or Chara, and there is a risk there of him being in part a product of playing with Weber..

The other thing is, there's a lesser need for an uber-vet right now compared to previous years. So if Caps didn't really pursue anybody then, it's hard to see them being aggressive now.

I happen to agree that Caps' apparent refusal to seriously consider higher-tier free agents is retarded, but given their track record of busting or overpaying free agents, one can understand them having no confidence in their ability to size up expensive talent.

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So if he needs to play with a star to produce, he should sign a contract like Parenteau, who has the same rub on him.
While I am ambivalent about resigning Semin, provided GMGM signs a consistent, skilled 20+ goals a year player that doesn't cost the Caps much if anything in trade, Semin has played with Backstrom from time to time and other than the Flyers playoff series four years ago, hasn't done much playing with Backstrom. Didn't Semin play with Backstrom predominantly in last season's playoffs and did Semin score anything off of Backstrom assists or plays? Semin goes from a low 20s goal scorer to a 30+ goal scorer if he is regularly used on the first unit PP, as was the case a couple of years ago. Last season he was only sometimes on the first PP unit, and instead sent out for the last 30 seconds on the second PP unit. It is there on a good first PP unit where Semin gets time and space for his wrister and where he can finish the cross crease pass for a goal.

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07-02-2012, 01:31 PM
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Am I the only one who keeps looking at Jagr thinking he would be the best fit skill-wise/value-wise for our team, and then punches himself in the stomach because I hate Jagr more than anyone? We don't need a long-term stud. We need someone to hold down the fort while Kuznetsov and Forsberg get ready for the NHL. But I hate Jagr. Hate hate hate hate.
You are.

But I wonder if the door is open. Heck, Oates was brought back. I bet a few regulars here never thought that would happen. Based solely on how he disrespected the team.

That said, we do need a goal scoring winger. At least we wouldn't have a clown coach if George were to do the unthinkable.

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07-02-2012, 01:33 PM
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We do have a hole (at forward position at minimum) in the roster.
It's not ideal, but we technically don't.

Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($1.750m) / Mathieu Perreault ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Jay Beagle ($1.000m) / Joey Crabb ($0.950m)

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07-02-2012, 01:34 PM
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It's going to be interesting to watch. A lot of clubs are acting as though a rollback is a given; I'm not at all sure the players are willing to concede that point. The number of players on ultra-long deals last time included Yashin. DiPietro didn't sign until 2006. So Yashin might have been it.

The number of players on long deals this time around is a lot higher. It's one more issue that could potentially delay the start of the season. The league is acting like it won't start playing hockey again without a rollback. What if you're Crosby, just signed a $104.5M contract, and the league wants to lop 24 percent off the top of that contract before it enters into force?
Seems like an amnesty clause could be a palatable-enough solution for both sides. All players are affected by a roll-back, only a few would be affected by amnesty. And it gives owners a chance to get rid of the really bad contracts to get under the cap.

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It's not ideal, but we technically don't.

Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($1.750m) / Mathieu Perreault ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Jay Beagle ($1.000m) / Joey Crabb ($0.950m)
Why is Perreault listed at $1.5? Is that his QO or something?? Dear god.

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07-02-2012, 01:36 PM
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Why is Perreault listed at $1.5? Is that his QO or something?? Dear god.
Haha, relax. I'm guessing. I do think he will cost a fair bit. He had good numbers and I believe he is arb eligible.

Edit: I'm guessing on Beagle too.

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It's not ideal, but we technically don't.

Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($1.750m) / Mathieu Perreault ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Jay Beagle ($1.000m) / Joey Crabb ($0.950m)
Hmm, I don't know. Seems like it needs more hitting grinders and less goal scoring.

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You are.

But I wonder if the door is open. Heck, Oates was brought back. I bet a few regulars here never thought that would happen. Based solely on how he disrespected the team.

That said, we do need a goal scoring winger. At least we wouldn't have a clown coach if George were to do the unthinkable.
The fact that Maryland now has live casinos less than a half hour from Verizon Center may appeal to Jagr. Jagr will say to Ted, "Ted, let bygones be bygones. Just tell me where to sign and pass the dice."

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Perreault centering the 3rd line... Yeah well I just don't see that working.

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It's not ideal, but we technically don't.

Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($1.750m) / Mathieu Perreault ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Jay Beagle ($1.000m) / Joey Crabb ($0.950m)
You might have a problem when a player nicknamed, "Stone Hands" is the most legit offensive threat in your bottom six.

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No chance in hell Jagr returns here.....no chance. I just threw up in my mouth thinking about it....

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Perreault. Man. There has to be a better alternative out there.

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Ryan is proven in the league. Kuz is a major unknown. I'll take the top flight winger over the unknown who MIGHT come over in two years from now. No guarantee he will.
and thats fine...but dont throw "career injury" into it when discounting Kuz. Thats BS, and you know it

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07-02-2012, 01:41 PM
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You might have a problem when a player nicknamed, "Stone Hands" is the most legit offensive threat in your bottom six.
I think the offensive dynamo that is that projected second line more than compensates for it tho

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You might have a problem when a player nicknamed, "Stone Hands" is the most legit offensive threat in your bottom six.
He only had one fewer goal than Semin. And he had worse linemates!

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He only had one fewer goal than Semin. And he had worse linemates!
Well, he's a grinder. So scoring should come naturally, but still.

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As far as holes in the lineup, you can always juggle players, but do the Caps have the talent to be a top contender? Nah, don't see it. Unfortunately, I don't really see realistic ways of rectifying that this year. They'd need to strike gold with a reclamation project/low-tier scorer to click with Ribeiro, or pull off a great trade, or have Galiev surprise the hell out of everyone, etc. Semin.. I'll leave him out of the discussion.

None of these things are likely. Realistic hope is to add 1-2 reasonable pieces, develop youngsters, get a good system in place, make best possible use of a puncher's chance in playoffs, and hopefully next year Caps will have some fresh blood (Forsberg), better assets, better sense of kind of team/style they have, and more opportunities in free agency/trades.

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Ha! This is funny:

@Eklund | "Not saying teams dont change their minds and bounce back, but as of now Panthers no longer interested in Luongo."

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@DarrenDreger | "@Eklund. Sorry pal. Just talked to Dale Tallon and he says nothing has changed. Still talking with Van. Nothing imminent. High price."


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It's not ideal, but we technically don't.

Alex Ovechkin ($9.538m) / Nicklas Backstrom ($6.700m) / Troy Brouwer ($2.350m)
Brooks Laich ($4.500m) / Mike Ribeiro ($5.000m) / Marcus Johansson ($0.900m)
Jason Chimera ($1.750m) / Mathieu Perreault ($1.500m) / Joel Ward ($3.000m)
Matt Hendricks ($0.825m) / Jay Beagle ($1.000m) / Joey Crabb ($0.950m)
Either way that's only 12 forwards. With Eakin, Aucoin and Borque gone our callup options are also limited to Hamill, Sjogren and perhaps Galiev. We definitely need more roster players.

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How anyone can be surprised at this, is beyone me.

All of the "We could sign Parise/Suter" humps must be musing now (I'm talking directly to a few of you on here).

The problem as we see it, is that the Caps have missed the boat on the lower tier players, while many on here were "Keep hope ALIVE for Parise!!!". Yeah, right....that ship was never sailing, and other players have moved on.

GMGM sucks this year. Prove me wrong, George.

Oh, and For the love of GOD, do NOT have Parise sign in ****tsburgh. Help us all.
Yeah I don't get the blind people on here who thought they were even a consideration. What blows my mind is that Parise and Suter are perfect fits for this team. Both are UFAs and we have a **** ton of cap space. Not even making a move for either is inexcusable. How anyone can defend GMGM for not going for one of them is mind boggling. How people can still defend him is just as idiotic. But we finally got a 2C three years too late to see Semins true potential but don't worry, Ribeiro will turn Laich and Brouwer into 30 goal scorers. All is forgiven George!!!!!

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I think the offensive dynamo that is that projected second line more than compensates for it tho
They can all saucer and drop pass the opposition into exhaustion.

We are coached by Oates now. Would be interesting to see how a line of three criminally ill passers work together when it comes to actually putting the puck in the net...

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Hahah Dreger is trolling Ek today, funny stuff.

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