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[CGY] Jiri Hudler [4 years, $4M cap hit)

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07-03-2012, 07:42 AM
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You guys will do good with Hudler. No fret. He's not a world beater, but 50 pts is 50 pts. Just not sure HOW you will use him. He is a playmaker and technically still a center.

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07-03-2012, 08:26 AM
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Baertschi was not the best player "in junior hockey"

he was not even the best player in the WHL.

He was a surprise in terms of production and had a remarkable playoffs but he was outscored by about 10 people in the regular season and lost to the Oil Kings in the playoffs...ironically the playoff MVP ended up being the Calgary-drafted Oil Kings goaltender.

Thus not the best player in the W.
Ironically even Oil kings coach Derek Laxdal called Baertschi the best player in the CHL. By your account Quick is the best player in the NHL and Crosby isn't in the top 10.

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Sorry, Janko is not a top end prospect.
Playing high school hockey won't cut it bud.
Really, bud? You may want to take a look at other preparatory high school programs and the players they generate, bud. Brian Leetch went to a prep school, bud. Michael Del Zotto went to a prep school, bud. Lee Stempniak went to a prep school, bud. Jeff Halpern went to a prep school, bud. Bill Guerin went to a prep school, bud. Considering there were multiple teams considering taking Jankowski in the first round, and considering their were multiple college teams courting this kid, I would say he's a pretty damn good prospect, bud. There are more ways to get to the NHL than playing in the CHL, bud. For smaller players and late bloomers the path can sometimes be unconventional, bud. Especially if they want to have a quality education in case hockey doesn't pan out, like it doesn't for the majority of players drafted, bud.


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07-03-2012, 12:13 PM
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Question for Wings fans: who did Hudler play with primarily?

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07-03-2012, 12:19 PM
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So you're hoping Janko turns into a Stempniak or Halpern? I'd be hoping my top end prospects become star players if I were you. Janko is a fair enough prospect, but he is a long term project. I don't consider guys who are 4 or 5 years away from being an NHLèr as a top end prospect. There is way too much development needed. Baertschi is the real deal, realistically you guys got a steal there, but after him there is a huge gap in your prospect pool. Bud.

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Really, bud? You may want to take a look at other preparatory high school programs and the players they generate, bud. Brian Leetch went to a prep school, bud. Michael Del Zotto went to a prep school, bud. Lee Stempniak went to a prep school, bud. Jeff Halpern went to a prep school, bud. Bill Guerin went to a prep school, bud. Considering there were multiple teams considering taking Jankowski in the first round, and considering their were multiple college teams courting this kid, I would say he's a pretty damn good prospect, bud. There are more ways to get to the NHL than playing in the CHL, bud. For smaller players and late bloomers the path can sometimes be unconventional, bud. Especially if they want to have a quality education in case hockey doesn't pan out, like it doesn't for the majority of players drafted, bud.


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Really hoping for some Hudler-Cervenka chemistry.

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07-03-2012, 12:21 PM
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Question for Wings fans: who did Hudler play with primarily?
Zetterberg and Filppula.

But he put up 57 points playing on the third line back in 09(although the team was stacked).

You really won't be disappointed. He's small but goes to the net and has great hockey sense and playmaking ability. Plus he's a good shoot out guy.

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Zetterberg and Filppula.

But he put up 57 points playing on the third line back in 09(although the team was stacked).

You really won't be disappointed. He's small but goes to the net and has great hockey sense and playmaking ability. Plus he's a good shoot out guy.
I always wished he got faster, his speed leaves something to be desired.

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Ironically even Oil kings coach Derek Laxdal called Baertschi the best player in the CHL. By your account Quick is the best player in the NHL and Crosby isn't in the top 10.
and by your account Elias>Malkin.

I'm pretty sure Baertschi wasn't even a finalist...since people tend not to get awards for "what might have happened"

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07-03-2012, 02:16 PM
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You guys will do good with Hudler. No fret. He's not a world beater, but 50 pts is 50 pts. Just not sure HOW you will use him. He is a playmaker and technically still a center.
Pretty sure he will be the 2nd line RW.

We payed to meet a need. 2nd line RW, and skill. He should help us steal a few points in the shoot-out too.

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You guys will do good with Hudler. No fret. He's not a world beater, but 50 pts is 50 pts. Just not sure HOW you will use him. He is a playmaker and technically still a center.
I expect the Flames will try and utilize his playmaking ability as a winger, specifically with Cervenka, who is more of a sniper and a player who goes to the net.

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Really, bud? You may want to take a look at other preparatory high school programs and the players they generate, bud. Brian Leetch went to a prep school, bud. Michael Del Zotto went to a prep school, bud. Lee Stempniak went to a prep school, bud. Jeff Halpern went to a prep school, bud. Bill Guerin went to a prep school, bud. Considering there were multiple teams considering taking Jankowski in the first round, and considering their were multiple college teams courting this kid, I would say he's a pretty damn good prospect, bud. There are more ways to get to the NHL than playing in the CHL, bud. For smaller players and late bloomers the path can sometimes be unconventional, bud. Especially if they want to have a quality education in case hockey doesn't pan out, like it doesn't for the majority of players drafted, bud.


Well you could be right. Maybe this year feaster will insist he doesn't play intramural hockey to help his development.

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07-03-2012, 10:21 PM
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i see there is still tons of questions about what calgary is thinking and who is going to play center so let me try to clarify this one more time.

calgary does not want to trade iginla. some powerful decesion maker in the ownership group wants to keep iginla around. or maybe its their gm's? or maybe its iginla himself? but whatever the case this is a team that wants to keep iginla.

now iginla is one year away from ufa and if they want to keep iginla they have to make iginla happy. so they are making moves designed to keep iginla happy.

they hope these moves also allow them to scratch into the playoffs. they believe kiprusoff is good enough he can steal a round or two in the playoffs if everything goes just right.

so expect iginla to get coached by his friends... play with his friends... and be shown respect until they get him resigned. this means that camereilli will play center with him until the line PROVES it sucks. im pretty sure tanguay will be the third guy cause these three have shown chemistry together and get along and that is the goal in calagary now.

then comes the second line... and calgary didnt want jokkinen around cause its percieved he sucks at crunch time so they threw less money at the top czech free agent hoping for the best. they then decided to bring in hudler and his playoff experience to play together on this line that is going to have a eruopean flavor. they got the swiss kid bartchi who they hope will break out with a good rookie season and he will fit right in with the style of play here hopefully to calgary's plan and that is a line that they hope will give them scoring depth

it might not work... but its an affordable gamble and if this line becomes the third line it is still affordable as far as third lines go.

so now you look at the other guys left over and see that glencross is around and stemniak is brough back and cormeau is being given another try and these are guys that actually would make the third line on most teams. the question is center where stajan has struggled for a couple years and backlund has never broken through yet.

fourth line needs more size because there isnt alot of size in the top 3 lines.

so calgary should still try to find a bit more size... and figure out what they are doing with their third center spot but the rest of the spots do make sense. this is a team that has been struggling to deal with bad contracts from the sutter regiem and bad drafting for years and years and years so cut feester a bit of slack

on defense... things actually look better. almost everyone would agreed giordano is a stud and brodie is a good looking kid with promise. then wideman might be overpaid but he produces offense and is a legitimate top 4 dman. sarich is a respectable vet and paid a decent wage for a 5-6 vet. so alot of the spots on the blueline are ok. i guess butler is ok. and bouwmeister is now an underrated buy by most fans becuase of his caphit. big caphit doesnt equal sucky player. bouwmeister is obviously overpaid but hes on the trade block anyhow so everyone freaked out over the flames caphit should mellow out a bit.

ultimately calgary has a game plan... that game plan is to keep iginla... so the rest of the stuff they are doing is about treading water and crossing fingers and hoping for sucess while iginla is still around.

and maybe in a year or two more cap space will open up and more kids will develop and more freeagenst swill be available but for right now the goal is to just squeek into the playoffs and hope for the best... and the moves being made are aimed for just that

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07-03-2012, 10:28 PM
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Really, bud? You may want to take a look at other preparatory high school programs and the players they generate, bud. Brian Leetch went to a prep school, bud. Michael Del Zotto went to a prep school, bud. Lee Stempniak went to a prep school, bud. Jeff Halpern went to a prep school, bud. Bill Guerin went to a prep school, bud. Considering there were multiple teams considering taking Jankowski in the first round, and considering their were multiple college teams courting this kid, I would say he's a pretty damn good prospect, bud. There are more ways to get to the NHL than playing in the CHL, bud. For smaller players and late bloomers the path can sometimes be unconventional, bud. Especially if they want to have a quality education in case hockey doesn't pan out, like it doesn't for the majority of players drafted, bud.

You could add Kreider and even Toews, who actually played in the same league as Jankowski

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