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07-04-2012, 11:17 AM
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So Carle, Semin, and Doan are all out there. I exect the Hawks to go hard after at least one of them. Don't think they sit out free agency after making a huge offer to Parise.

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07-04-2012, 11:18 AM
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I would put some serious money on Semin signing with Detroit or Pitt.

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Matt Carle will be overpaid by Detroit. Book it.

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07-04-2012, 11:21 AM
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here are some of the players left:

1. Matt Carle, D, Philadelphia
2. Shane Doan, W, Phoenix
3. Alex Semin, W, Washington
4. Andrei Kostitsyn, W, Nashville
5. Peter Mueller, W, Colorado
6. Michal Rozsival, D, Phoenix
7. Petr Sykora, W, New Jersey
8. Jason Arnott, C, St. Louis
9. Jamie Langenbrunner, W, St. Louis
10. Pavel Kubina, D, Philadelphia

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07-04-2012, 11:22 AM
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All in on Doan. Please stay the hell away from Matt Carle.

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07-04-2012, 11:22 AM
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Matt Carle will be overpaid by Detroit. Book it.
Agreed, I could see Carle and Semin going to Detroit.

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07-04-2012, 11:26 AM
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I hope Chicago stays away from everybody except Doan of the top remaining UFAs. For Doan, I only like it for a short heavily inflated contract anyway. He'll probably want to stay west so I'm not sure Chicago even has a chance to land him anyway.

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07-04-2012, 11:38 AM
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Problem is though that with the two top dogs in this free agency class going to the same team, that means there are still a lot of potential landing spots fighting over the talent remaining.

Expect every one on that list to get overpaid just due to the competition.

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07-04-2012, 11:40 AM
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I hope Chicago stays away from everybody except Doan of the top remaining UFAs. For Doan, I only like it for a short heavily inflated contract anyway. He'll probably want to stay west so I'm not sure Chicago even has a chance to land him anyway.
Intereting though on Doan, instead of goin say 3 years $15 mil maybe he would prefer 2 years, say, $12 mil

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07-04-2012, 11:41 AM
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You need to fix your keyboard man.

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Rather look at trade market then overpay for any of the remaining UFA's

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All in on Doan. Please stay the hell away from Matt Carle.
you must not watch much of Carle...

people flock like sheep on here, when one person says something about a player, it always latches on to others...

how you would want to stay away from Carle, a 27 year old 40 point 2 way dman, is beyond me... the guy is a plus player, and has been with and without Pronger... he makes as many mistakes as Keith does, and he had to carry the load of the Flyers blueline on his back playing over 25 minutes a night...

the Hawks should make a major move on Carle, as he wont be needed to play over 25 minutes a night, moves the puck extremely well, plays very solid defense something shortsighted posters cant see, the dude is legit. He is a hell of a lot better then Oduya....he makes our blueline better overall, will be overpriced, but either make moves or dont...cant ***** about making moves, then cry when we overpay to get a player...everyone is getting overpaid this year...get over it people.

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07-04-2012, 11:55 AM
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Rather look at trade market then overpay for any of the remaining UFA's
I know we differ but I'd overpay Doan but still think they should make a trade to but for whom? I dont know.

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07-04-2012, 11:56 AM
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you must not watch much of Carle...

people flock like sheep on here, when one person says something about a player, it always latches on to others...

how you would want to stay away from Carle, a 27 year old 40 point 2 way dman, is beyond me... the guy is a plus player, and has been with and without Pronger... he makes as many mistakes as Keith does, and he had to carry the load of the Flyers blueline on his back playing over 25 minutes a night...

the Hawks should make a major move on Carle, as he wont be needed to play over 25 minutes a night, moves the puck extremely well, plays very solid defense something shortsighted posters cant see, the dude is legit. He is a hell of a lot better then Oduya....he makes our blueline better overall, will be overpriced, but either make moves or dont...cant ***** about making moves, then cry when we overpay to get a player...everyone is getting overpaid this year...get over it people.
Agreed, he would be a solid 2nd line option and would allow you to deal Hjalmersson for forward help if they so chose.

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07-04-2012, 11:56 AM
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Matt Carle is the opposite of what the Hawks need. I really hope they don't waste any money on him.

Solid player, just not the right fit at all.

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Matt Carle is the opposite of what the Hawks need. I really hope they don't waste any money on him.

Solid player, just not the right fit at all.
we dont need help moving the puck out of our zone?

we dont need help on the power play??

Carle helps on both accounts...

he also is better at keeping pucks out of the net then Leddy, Oduya, Olsen, and Monty... probably even Hjalmarsson as well....

not sure what else your looking for in a 2 way dman.... if you want a shutdown dman, it isnt Carle, but go trade for that....if you want another top 4 dman that takes the heat and pressure off of Seabs and Keith, this is the guy....

he helps in more ways then just on ice style, he brings another legit top 4 to our group which helps Seabs and Keith play less minutes and more effectively.

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we dont need help moving the puck out of our zone?
Really? Did you watch the playoffs?

edit, I see that was a question.

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07-04-2012, 12:05 PM
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Rather look at trade market then overpay for any of the remaining UFA's
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The Hawks have plenty of puckmovers already. If they can get a good defensive defenseman who makes a good first pass, then sure. But Carle is pure puckmover & offensive defenseman, something this team absolutely does not need. We already have Keith, Leddy, and Oduya who are each similar players to him (ability to move the puck).

That is quite honestly one of the last things the roster needs help with.

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you must not watch much of Carle...

people flock like sheep on here, when one person says something about a player, it always latches on to others...

how you would want to stay away from Carle, a 27 year old 40 point 2 way dman, is beyond me... the guy is a plus player, and has been with and without Pronger... he makes as many mistakes as Keith does, and he had to carry the load of the Flyers blueline on his back playing over 25 minutes a night...

the Hawks should make a major move on Carle, as he wont be needed to play over 25 minutes a night, moves the puck extremely well, plays very solid defense something shortsighted posters cant see, the dude is legit. He is a hell of a lot better then Oduya....he makes our blueline better overall, will be overpriced, but either make moves or dont...cant ***** about making moves, then cry when we overpay to get a player...everyone is getting overpaid this year...get over it people.
I watch him play as much as I can. His defensive game comes and goes inexplicably. He was an abomination in the PO's as well. All things considered, I'll take leddy over him.

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Stalberg is going to get an extension because Stan is getting bored. Wait for it.

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you must not watch much of Carle...

people flock like sheep on here, when one person says something about a player, it always latches on to others...

how you would want to stay away from Carle, a 27 year old 40 point 2 way dman, is beyond me... the guy is a plus player, and has been with and without Pronger... he makes as many mistakes as Keith does, and he had to carry the load of the Flyers blueline on his back playing over 25 minutes a night...

the Hawks should make a major move on Carle, as he wont be needed to play over 25 minutes a night, moves the puck extremely well, plays very solid defense something shortsighted posters cant see, the dude is legit. He is a hell of a lot better then Oduya....he makes our blueline better overall, will be overpriced, but either make moves or dont...cant ***** about making moves, then cry when we overpay to get a player...everyone is getting overpaid this year...get over it people.
Not even close. The Flyers are the reason I buy the center ice package. Carle is the best defenseman on the Flyers not named Pronger, Timonen, Coburn, and Meszaros. Leddy minus about 8 years of development is still better than Matt Carle.

He's a good skater and a good passer. He's weak on the boards, doesn't have particuarly good stick work, and makes more boneheaded mistakes than Dylan Olsen. We have a guy just like that named Johnny Oduya who is already overpaid. Carle will get paid even more and whatever team signs him, I can guarantee you those fans will turn on him in less than a year.

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Not even close. The Flyers are the reason I buy the center ice package. Carle is the best defenseman on the Flyers not named Pronger, Timonen, Coburn, and Meszaros. Leddy minus about 8 years of development is still better than Matt Carle.

He's a good skater and a good passer. He's weak on the boards, doesn't have particuarly good stick work, and makes more boneheaded mistakes than Dylan Olsen. We have a guy just like that named Johnny Oduya who is already overpaid. Carle will get paid even more and whatever team signs him, I can guarantee you those fans will turn on him in less than a year.
Made me lol. so true.

Now, I'd take coburn on the hawks in a heartbeat. same with meszaros for the right price.

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07-04-2012, 12:14 PM
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I'd be ok with Carle...but it would have to be the right term and price... term and price that I don't think he would agree to. I have a feeling he's going to get overpaid... Semin too.

I'd be interested in
Carle
Doan
Arnott
Langenbrunner

But only marginally really. FA might as well be over at this point.... not much left that helps us in a big way.

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