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07-24-2012, 01:56 AM
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Pavelski and Clowe to buffalo

What would it take for a package of Pavelski and Clowe from buffalo?

Some pieces available:
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Prospects(Just not Grigs, Girgs and armia)
Draft Picks(2014 1st?)

Would give us Pavelski, Hodgson, Ennis down the middle and gove us some real grit in foligno, ott, clowe, tropp and kaleta

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What would it take for a package of Pavelski and Clowe from buffalo?

Some pieces available:
Stafford
Leopold
Gerbe
Adam
Prospects(Just not Grigs, Girgs and armia)
Draft Picks(2014 1st?)

Would give us Pavelski, Hodgson, Ennis down the middle and gove us some real grit in foligno, ott, clowe, tropp and kaleta
None of the "available pieces" will get you Pavelski AND Clowe.

It will take Ennis++

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Sabres fans we agreed on Murray + Clowe for Stafford + Leopold. Don't try to sneak Pavs in the last minute.

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None of the "available pieces" will get you Pavelski AND Clowe.
I figured it would be tough. Not even some combination of Stafford+Adam+Gerbe+Leopold+1st and a prospect

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Sabres fans we agreed on Murray + Clowe for Stafford + Leopold. Don't try to sneak Pavs in the last minute.
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me, we have a need for another center though and pavelski or maybe even marleau would fit well

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I figured it would be tough. Not even some combination of Stafford+Adam+Gerbe+Leopold+1st and a prospect
Nope. Has to have Ennis++ coming back for me to consider it.

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Nope. Has to have Ennis++ coming back for me to consider it.
Pointless for us if we move ennis, we need to add a center without subtracting ennis or hodgson.

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Pointless for us if we move ennis, we need to add a center without subtracting ennis or hodgson.
We need to get better now without getting worse. I like the Stafford+Leopold for Clowe and Murray still.

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Would vanek for pavelski and clowe interest you

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Would vanek for pavelski and clowe interest you
It would be though. If you add a decent pick or a solid prospect as a sweetener, I may pull the trigger.

What about:

Pominville
Adam
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Clowe
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Would vanek for pavelski and clowe interest you
Not at all.

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It would be though. If you add a decent pick or a solid prospect as a sweetener, I may pull the trigger.

What about:

Pominville
Adam
conditional pick

for

Clowe
Pavelski?
I don't know if I'd do that, but that doesn't look bad value wise. Maybe an actual pick instead of a conditional?

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Would vanek for pavelski and clowe interest you
Not me.

Like others have said, it'd be Ennis++. Vanek is much too expensive for our salary cap structure. Pavelski is so much more valuable than Clowe is.

I'd do something like Ennis+Pominville for Pavelski+Clowe+Murray. Dunno if that interests Sabres fans in the slightest, but people who have the impression that we're shopping Pavelski have got something else coming. The only time Sharks fans mention him in an offer is if we're gettting young top talent back.

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What would it take to get Pavelski (without Clowe)? From what I see on here, you guys want more speed and wingers..Would something around Stafford + be feasible?

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What would it take to get Pavelski (without Clowe)? From what I see on here, you guys want more speed and wingers..Would something around Stafford + be feasible?
If that plus is significant.

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If that plus is significant.
How significant? ie: a 1st, another roster player, a prospect?

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What would it take to get Pavelski (without Clowe)? From what I see on here, you guys want more speed and wingers..Would something around Stafford + be feasible?
After the Stafford + Leopold for Clowe + Murray proposal, nothing with Stafford interests me, especially not for Pavelski.

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How significant? ie: a 1st, another roster player, a prospect?
Yes, a very specific prospect.

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Not me.

Like others have said, it'd be Ennis++. Vanek is much too expensive for our salary cap structure. Pavelski is so much more valuable than Clowe is.

I'd do something like Ennis+Pominville for Pavelski+Clowe+Murray. Dunno if that interests Sabres fans in the slightest, but people who have the impression that we're shopping Pavelski have got something else coming. The only time Sharks fans mention him in an offer is if we're gettting young top talent back.
Its not that we think pavelski is being shopped he's just a perfect fit for us. And vaneks contract is really pretty fair, I believe you'd be shedding cap with pavelski and clowe going the other way

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What would it take for a package of Pavelski and Clowe from buffalo?

Some pieces available:
Stafford
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Prospects(Just not Grigs, Girgs and armia)
Draft Picks(2014 1st?)

Would give us Pavelski, Hodgson, Ennis down the middle and gove us some real grit in foligno, ott, clowe, tropp and kaleta
You have great comedic skills None of those pieces at all would be enough for me to trade Clowe AND Pavelski.

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You have great comedic skills None of those pieces at all would be enough for me to trade Clowe AND Pavelski.
What a constructive post. Thank you.

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Not at all.



I don't know if I'd do that, but that doesn't look bad value wise. Maybe an actual pick instead of a conditional?
Done.

To Buffalo:
Pavelski
Clowe

To SJ:
Pominville
Adam
3rd round pick

Now get our GM's to the phones.....

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Its not that we think pavelski is being shopped he's just a perfect fit for us. And vaneks contract is really pretty fair, I believe you'd be shedding cap with pavelski and clowe going the other way
You fail to consider the cost of Clowe's replacement. That trade leaves us with exactly 5 top-6 forwards.

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What a constructive post. Thank you.
It wasn't sound delivery, but c'mon, you took the only three prospects we'd be interested in off the table. You left on an inconsistent winger, a #5 defenseman, a dwarf, a prospect that hasn't looked good outside a brief stint on the top-line, and a first that wouldn't help us for 4 more years.

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Done.

To Buffalo:
Pavelski
Clowe

To SJ:
Pominville
Adam
3rd round pick

Now get our GM's to the phones.....
I wouldn't do that deal. The only deal I want do with the Sabres is Clowe+Murray for Stafford+Leopold.

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How significant? ie: a 1st, another roster player, a prospect?
Yeah, I'd only do it for Stafford if Grigerenko is coming back too.

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