So are you saying whatever he does is fine. He brings in Colin Wilson your fine with that? (I would be, but that wouldn't be a 1st. line center.)
Sounds like you won't hold him accountable, because already it is changed to just someone better than Bozak, not a 1st. line center.
When standards start slipping it isn't long before you have no standards.
Burke is just talking out of his ass again . If he doesn't aquire a num 1 C/G he'll just say he wasn't willing to gut the our prospect depth and people will line up behind him .
Burke is just talking out of his ass again . If he doesn't aquire a num 1 C/G he'll just say he wasn't willing to gut the our prospect depth and people will line up behind him .
How could it possibly benefit Burke to say he is confident that he'll be able to acquire a # 1 C, and/or #1 G if it isn't true? If people are willing to line up behind him if he says he isn't willing to make a move like that, why tell them he believes the team will have a new # 1 C by the end of the summer in the first place?
Burke is just talking out of his ass again . If he doesn't aquire a num 1 C/G he'll just say he wasn't willing to gut the our prospect depth and people will line up behind him .
Are you actually a fan of the team, or are you just getting your rocks off by trolling Burke and the organization? It doesn't make much sense for a fan to not be happy with the GM or direction of the team, but spend time on an online fan forum.
He didn't say he was going to get a #1 goalie and centre.
He said he could definitely upgrade those positions on his hockey club. An upgrade doesn't necessarily mean you're getting the full package, just something better than the original.
Are you actually a fan of the team, or are you just getting your rocks off by trolling Burke and the organization? It doesn't make much sense for a fan to not be happy with the GM or direction of the team, but spend time on an online fan forum.
How does that not make sense? People can dislike the GM and direction of the team and come to a forum to vent and express those feelings. You think that people are only fans of this team when times are good and their views align with those running it? Maybe if we're all supposed to be bandwagon fans then maybe.
How does that not make sense? People can dislike the GM and direction of the team and come to a forum to vent and express those feelings. You think that people are only fans of this team when times are good and their views align with those running it? Maybe if we're all supposed to be bandwagon fans then maybe.
Usually said fans would be found cheering for the team once.
He didn't say he was going to get a #1 goalie and centre.
He said he could definitely upgrade those positions on his hockey club. An upgrade doesn't necessarily mean you're getting the full package, just something better than the original.
So no, you can't hold it to him, in my opinion.
This is a bit of postering though. If he gets a real 1C than great he did more than upgrade. But if he gets Connolly 2.0 (at time of his signing Connolly was an upgrade to Bozak) than he still "upgraded" and so this is a great success.
Like it or not he will be measured by #1C. That is what he has been looking for the last 4 years. And I hope he doesn't waste picks/prospects on a minor 'upgrade' for the next latest version Connolly.
At any rate, basically what Burke says doesn't mean much. I've been saying he over promises and under delivers.
If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it is still a foolish thing. As quoted in Listening and Speaking : A Guide to Effective Oral Communication (1954) by Ralph G. Nichols and Thomas R. Lewis, p. 74
Are you actually a fan of the team, or are you just getting your rocks off by trolling Burke and the organization? It doesn't make much sense for a fan to not be happy with the GM or direction of the team, but spend time on an online fan forum.
You do realize Burke is just an employee and his loyalty to the team is until the end of his contract.
Darn right fans can call out an employee of their favorite team.
How could it possibly benefit Burke to say he is confident that he'll be able to acquire a # 1 C, and/or #1 G if it isn't true? If people are willing to line up behind him if he says he isn't willing to make a move like that, why tell them he believes the team will have a new # 1 C by the end of the summer in the first place?
Doesn't make much sense to me...
Burke always seems to feel the need to justify his actions . He's does this all the time . Lies and hyperbole spew from his mouth endlessly .
Today he said GM's make the most mistakes July 1st . He said the exact same thing about the trade deadline .
Burke just loves to talk and when he can't back it up he comes up with an excuse .
He also said again how he's against cap circumvention deals yet Nonis said they're not against trading for them . I have no clue what the difference is but this crap is good enough for his supporters .
Now for why he would say he's confident he can aquire a num 1 C , that's easy , it deflects attention away from his lack of activity in the UFA market .
You do realize Burke is just an employee and his loyalty to the team is until the end of his contract.
Darn right fans can call out an employee of their favorite team.
Burke isn't the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Did you listen to his interview today?
He said he's not the type of guy who will just sign players to long-term contracts and go "well it will be somebody else's problem because the player's contract will last longer than mine will."
If a GM operated only to the end of his contract, he'd never find work. His job is to make his NHL team the best it can be both now and in the future, in terms of reaching the ultimate goal of a SC. Do you really think if a GM cash strapped his owner's loaded up for a couple big years and left them reeling for the next decade that he'd ever find work as a GM again?
There's a reason JFJ hasn't been employed as a GM since leaving Toronto, likewise for guys like Mike Millbury and Doug Maclean.
He said he's not the type of guy who will just sign players to long-term contracts and go "well it will be somebody else's problem because the player's contract will last longer than mine will."
If a GM operated only to the end of his contract, he'd never find work. His job is to make his NHL team the best it can be both now and in the future, in terms of reaching the ultimate goal of a SC. Do you really think if a GM cash strapped his owner's loaded up for a couple big years and left them reeling for the next decade that he'd ever find work as a GM again?
There's a reason JFJ hasn't been employed as a GM since leaving Toronto, likewise for guys like Mike Millbury and Doug Maclean.
Burke was loyal to the Ducks, until the Leafs bought his loyalty before his contract even finished.
He didn't say he was going to get a #1 goalie and centre.
He said he could definitely upgrade those positions on his hockey club. An upgrade doesn't necessarily mean you're getting the full package, just something better than the original.
So no, you can't hold it to him, in my opinion.
At 11:50 of the interview the question was: "Is there a goaltender, [or] a front-line center first-line center out there; or a couple of them that you have a shot at?"
Burke's response: "We believe we can upgrade at those positions, yes. So to answer your question, the answer is yes."
His loyalty to the Ducks ended the day he signed the contract with the Leafs. Or it better have ended at that point since he became an employee of the Leafs.
At 11:50 of the interview the question was: "Is there a goaltender, [or] a front-line center first-line center out there; or a couple of them that you have a shot at?"
Burke's response: "We believe we can upgrade at those positions, yes. So to answer your question, the answer is yes."
Burke didn't just say he could upgrade.
He also never said he was definitely going to get either of those. Maybe you should learn what 'shot at' means.
You do realize Burke is just an employee and his loyalty to the team is until the end of his contract.
Darn right fans can call out an employee of their favorite team.
Burke isn't the Toronto Maple Leafs.
It's shocking how many fans on here think Burke and the Leafs are the same entity .
I used to think some of the fans on here had a love affar with Burke but i'm now starting to believe they can't separate an employee from the actual team . I think alot of these supporters believe when they're defending Burke and his every move they're actually defending the honour of the team .
Burke was loyal to the Ducks, until the Leafs bought his loyalty before his contract even finished.
Was that before or after his Owner plead guilty to financial charges laid on him by the U.S. government? Before or after he was suspended from the NHL by Gary Bettman?
Burke's contract was running out and clearly the Toronto job wasn't going to wait another year for him to finish his term with the Ducks.
Burke had a good relationship with the Samuelis and it was a "mutual split" if you want to call it that.
Regardless, this has nothing to do with his actual performance as a General Manager of the Ducks. That team has been fairly successful since his departure and many of the pieces that he put in place are still there, and they certainly haven't suffered from any major mistakes he left them with.
If you went into work on a 6 month contract and performed well while you were there by cutting corners and fudging your numbers to make yourself look good, but then when your contract was up your boss found out that you had completely screwed the pooch and left them with a pile of crap... do you think you could ask him for a reference when you were done?
He also never said he was definitely going to get either of those. Maybe you should learn what 'shot at' means.
Here's my post from a page earlier...
"I'll "hold him accountable" by the teams performance during the season. We really won't know how any of the moves Burke makes during the summer turn out until at the very earliest mid-season. If Burke does nothing from here on out and this team makes the playoffs, and looks as though it will continue to trend upwards I'm more than fine with that."
I know he isn't definitely going to get either of those pieces, and if he doesn't it's not the end of the world. I was just pointing out the fact that he wasn't simply talking about an "upgrade" but a front line center or goaltender.
His loyalty to the Ducks ended the day he signed the contract with the Leafs. Or it better have ended at that point since he became an employee of the Leafs.
So you believe that every GM should gut a team before they leave, to show their new loyalty? Last time I checked its a GMs team to build championship team, and if they can't they should take few steps towards it, not several steps backwards. You'd be hard pressed to find a recent championship team built by a single person.
When he's fired or quits he'll either get another job in another organization or he could just retire.
My guess is he's a Bruin's fan.
Thats nonsense though, and you completely ignored the rest of my post because you know that you're spewing.
Certainly he's a Leafs employee, but that doesn't mean he's disloyal. His performance with the Leafs will be a key moment in defining his NHL career, and has serious implications for his future. If he is completely unsuccessful who is going to hire him as a GM? Or if he has interest, who's going to want to promote him to a higher position in management in their organization as he gets older?
He's doing his absolute best to make the Leafs a successful team, and getting them to win a Stanley Cup. To suggest that he isn't is completely ridiculous.
Argue that his best isn't good enough until you run out of breath, but don't suggest that the guy isn't trying because if or when he gets fired "he'll just find another job or retire".
