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08-15-2012, 11:24 AM
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Pretty sure Gomez will be in the top 9 to start the season....sadly
No chance. When a new CBA is negotiated, Gomez will be gone. I believe they are waiting to see bout an amnesty buyout. If not he will be in Hamilton. The cap will more than likely drop from 70 million. Gomez has no position on this team. The 3 centers in front of him are vastly superior and would be a huge mistake to move Eller or DD to wing so Gomez can play. The guy is god awful. 2 atrocious seasons in a row. He doesnt deserve nor will he get another chance. This new regime us to smart to have this guy in thr line up and molson already said money won't be an issue. Gomez is gone!

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08-15-2012, 11:30 AM
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Pax-DD-Cole
--- The all offensive line. Wish for another healthy season and 90 goals.

Eller-Pleky-Gionta
--- Can score, but also very reliable on defense. Eller gets his chance to play with good veteran players and to get use to the wing since I think that where he's going to fit going forward. We really need to see this year what he can give us offensively.

Armstrong-Gomez-Bourque
--- Yeah, somewhat a risky line. Gomez gets a goal scorer and a hard nose winger. It's his last chance to save his career and he knows it. Also, we can hope Armstrong hard play will energize Bourque. If motivated, this line is also very capable defensively. If it's a disaster, bring Eller back at center, call up Leblanc to play with him and put Gomez in the pressbox or put him on waivers.

Moen-Nokelainen-Prust
--- A very effective in your face 4th line, with the capacity to play around 12 good minutes, score 20+ goals and kill penalties just like the Campbell line in Boston.

White
--- Very effective 13th forward since he can fill in at pretty much any position on the 4th line.

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08-15-2012, 11:39 AM
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Whats with all this Gomez love? Eller, Leblanc and White in 4th line role are all > Gomez

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen-Eller- Leblanc
Prust - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Gorges - Subban
Markov - Emelin
Kaberle - Bouillon/Diaz
Weber

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This is probably our best bet. If we manage - by some miracle - to land Doan, I see :

Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Plekanec - Doan
Moen-Eller- Gionta
Prust - White - Armstrong

The only question mark being whether Doan pushes a C to the wing. D remains the same as above.

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08-15-2012, 11:51 AM
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Pacioretty - Plekanec - Gionta
Bourque - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Eller - Armstrong
Prust - White - Moen
Noke

Markov - Subban
Kaberle - Gorges
Bouillon - Emelin
Weber/Diaz

I won't be surprised if Desharnais could get Bourque scoring like he did in Calgary his last 2 full years there.

If Galchenyuk makes the team:

Eller - Plekanec - Gionta
Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Bourque - Galchenyuk - Armstrong
Prust - White - Moen

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08-15-2012, 12:04 PM
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Love your 4th line, HATE seeing Eller as a LW where he has always been under-performing.


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08-15-2012, 02:09 PM
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Pacioretty-DD-BOURQUE

COLE-PLEK-GIONTA

PRUST/ARMSTRONG-ELLER-MOEN

PRUST/ARMSTRONG-GOMEZ-WHITE


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08-15-2012, 02:17 PM
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Love your 4th line, HATE seeing Eller as a LW where he has always been under-performing.
Not sure it really counts as 'under performing' when you're being put in a position to fail.

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08-15-2012, 02:32 PM
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Not sure it really counts as 'under performing' when you're being put in a position to fail.
Even if it's on Plekanec's line, Eller is simply not a winger and that has been proven multiple times.

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Even if it's on Plekanec's line, Eller is simply not a winger and that has been proven multiple times.
I know, I'm agreeing with you.

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Even if it's on Plekanec's line, Eller is simply not a winger and that has been proven multiple times.
Getting a chuckle out of him being penciled in on the right wing (voyageur, la25ecoupe, JC93 who agrees, etc), which means not only being pushed out of centre, but also onto his wrong wing, lol. Yeah, might yield positive results...

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Alright, I'll give it a shot:

Patches - DD - Cole (don't mess with what works)
Bourque - Plex - Gio (pray Bourque can find his game as a banger playing with two talented, undersized forwards)
Gomez - Eller - Moen/Armstrong (Line runs through Eller, pray Gomez can at least remember how to pass well. Moen and Eller have chemistry, Army has been able to score in the past. If Gomez is in the minors/fails, give LL or Gallagher a shot)
Prust - Noke - White (prototypical 4th line)

Gorges - PK(duh)
Markov - Emelin (russian duo)
Kaberle - Diaz (best 2 guys left)
Boullion/Weber

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08-15-2012, 07:25 PM
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Getting a chuckle out of him being penciled in on the right wing (voyageur, la25ecoupe, JC93 who agrees, etc), which means not only being pushed out of centre, but also onto his wrong wing, lol. Yeah, might yield positive results...
Hey man just doing what I gotta do to fit our 7.3 million dollar bermuda triangle of offence in to his rightful role at third line centre.

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08-15-2012, 09:15 PM
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Our roster can go down in so many ways...I've go 3 to 4 lineups that a plausible, even this one could be worth a try:

Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Colby Armstrong ($1.000m) / Lars Eller ($1.325m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
Brandon Prust ($2.500m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Rene Bourque ($3.333m)
Travis Moen ($1.850m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Ryan White ($0.688m)
Petteri Nokelainen ($0.575m)

Could even replace Gomez with Leblanc...

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08-16-2012, 08:12 AM
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Even if it's on Plekanec's line, Eller is simply not a winger and that has been proven multiple times.
Yeah I know that. But I want him to play with talented players to see what he's got offensively and I don't see this happening this year if he centers the 3rd line, unless Habs add another winger somehow.

Although, it might be one of those years you work with pairs instead of trios. That would give us, in no particular order :

Pacioretty-Desharnais-xxxx
Cole-Plekanec-xxxx
xxxx-Eller-Gionta

And you insert whoever is hot with them.

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08-16-2012, 08:39 AM
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Bourque - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Eller - Desharnais
Armstrong - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - White - Prust

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Love your 4th line, HATE seeing Eller as a LW where he has always been under-performing.
That was the lineup with the small chance Galchenyk makes the team. Eller hasn't looked THAT bad as a LW its on the right side that he struggles, he's obviously better at centre but I wouldn't mind seeing him get big minutes at wing in an offensive role if we end up having him, Desharnais, Pleks and Gally all in the lineup.

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08-16-2012, 09:00 AM
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I dont think White will be on the bench and Dumont in?
Tinordi isn't ready and Kaberle will play and problably Bouillon.
Nokelainen is on a 1 way contract no way we pay him 500k to play in Hamilton

You know that Eller sucks on the wing position?

The only center that has the IQ to play wing is Desharnais.

Pacioretty - Eller - Desharnais
Bourque - Plekanec - Cole
Moen-Gomez-Gionta
Prust - White - Armstrong
Nokelainen

Gorges - Subban
Markov - Emelin
Kaberle - Bouillon/Diaz
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Bourque - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Eller - Desharnais
Armstrong - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - White - Prust
Id problably have the same lineup if Armstrong could show he's regain his form.
Id switch Prust and Moen cause I think Moen could play on his off wing.

I think this is the best lineup we could see with Gomez.

We have Eller on center.

2 big wingers for Plekanec.

Gomez/Gionta and Pacioretty/Desharnais duo.

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08-16-2012, 09:06 AM
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Alright, I'll give it a shot:

Patches - DD - Cole (don't mess with what works)
Bourque - Plex - Gio (pray Bourque can find his game as a banger playing with two talented, undersized forwards)
Gomez - Eller - Moen/Armstrong (Line runs through Eller, pray Gomez can at least remember how to pass well. Moen and Eller have chemistry, Army has been able to score in the past. If Gomez is in the minors/fails, give LL or Gallagher a shot)
Prust - Noke - White (prototypical 4th line)

Gorges - PK(duh)
Markov - Emelin (russian duo)
Kaberle - Diaz (best 2 guys left)
Boullion/Weber

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Gotta say, I am a little intrigued at what this line would do.

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Getting a chuckle out of him being penciled in on the right wing (voyageur, la25ecoupe, JC93 who agrees, etc), which means not only being pushed out of centre, but also onto his wrong wing, lol. Yeah, might yield positive results...
I gave an example of his success as a winger. I also provided a strong reason, his pitiful faceoff %. I could add the of the 3 centers he is competing with (I am going to say that Galchenyuk is going to replace Gomez, sooner or later) he has the worst vision. His game is more north-south which makes him an ideal winger, with any kind of forechecking system. I don't think we can build off last season, but we can build off the previous season when we were looking like Stanley Cup contenders until Max's injury. Who was Pacioretty playing with that season? Gomez-Gionta! I think having Eller on the wing provides extra depth at center, in case of injury or inability. It keeps all top 9 players in their roles. That said if Gomez was traded to make room for AK 46 I wouldn't complain, I really like the Moen-Eller-AK line as a checking line. But Eller must improve in the circle.

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Bourque-Desharnais-Cole
Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gionta
Gomez/Leblanc-Eller-Armstrong
Moen-White-Prust

I feel Cole and Desharnais have more chemistry together than Patches and DD do. Just my own opinion. I think Max will score on any line and he has some experience playing with Gionta. Gives Pleks 2 solid wingers that can dig and work the way he does. Cole and Desharnais can do their thing, and Bourque does have sniper qualities to go along with a solid playmaker in DD and a bull that does whatever it in Cole. Would be nice to see an unexpected young guy play his way into the lineup (ex. Leblanc or Gallagher)

Just my two cents.

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08-16-2012, 02:37 PM
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Sucks Eller is more than likely going to play with scrubs again...

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08-16-2012, 09:41 PM
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Bourque-Desharnais-Cole
Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gionta
Gomez/Leblanc-Eller-Armstrong
Moen-White-Prust

I feel Cole and Desharnais have more chemistry together than Patches and DD do. Just my own opinion. I think Max will score on any line and he has some experience playing with Gionta. Gives Pleks 2 solid wingers that can dig and work the way he does. Cole and Desharnais can do their thing, and Bourque does have sniper qualities to go along with a solid playmaker in DD and a bull that does whatever it in Cole. Would be nice to see an unexpected young guy play his way into the lineup (ex. Leblanc or Gallagher)

Just my two cents.
DD and Patches had great chemistry in Hamilton no matter who they put on that line. Patches said DD is the smartest center he's ever played with so I am guessing they stay together for the beginning of the season. Therrien will try to spread around the scoring depth and I think Gallagher will stick!

So after 10 games I think it will be:

Patches --- DD --- Gionta
Bourque --- Pleky --- Cole
Moen ---- Eller ---- Gallagher
Prust --- White ---- Armstrong
Noki

Emelin --- Markov
PK --- Gorges
Boullion ---- Kaberle
Diaz ---Weber

I'd really be interested in seeing if two hard working skilled young studs like Eller and Gallagher have any chemistry.

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08-16-2012, 10:26 PM
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Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Gomez/Moen - Eller - Bourque
Prust - White/Nokelainen - Armstrong

Markov - Emelin
Gorges - Subban
Kaberle/Diaz - Bouillon
Weber

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1- Think Leblanc will make the club on regular basis (nice ice time, maybe not from the start)
2- Gomez on 3rd line wing if he can be "not that bad" (not on a 4th line)
3- Fourth line (or if injured player) a mix of Prust, Moen (if #2-), Armstrong, White, Noke
4- Defense is what we have
5- Goalie.... no choice

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Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Gomez - Bourque
Prust - Eller - Armstrong

White


-gives Leblanc a serious opportunity
-Gomez played like a third liner last year and would be more useless as a fourth liner
-Was unhappy Eller playing the fourth but if Armstrong can rebound with Prust causing trouble Eller's skill could be used to advantage.
-can't see Moen on the fourth line

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Pacioretty - Desharnais - Cole
Leblanc - Plekanec - Gionta
Moen - Gomez - Bourque
Prust - Eller - Armstrong

White


-gives Leblanc a serious opportunity
-Gomez played like a third liner last year and would be more useless as a fourth liner
-Was unhappy Eller playing the fourth but if Armstrong can rebound with Prust causing trouble Eller's skill could be used to advantage.
-can't see Moen on the fourth line
I actually agree with this lineup, I mean I dont like seeing Eller on the 4th line either because I think he's better than that but to start the season I can see this happening and basically its up to each centre to prove themselves of where they belong and ice time. I really do hope Leblanc can make the big club and stay because I think he has great potential and could really break out this year playing with a guy like Pleks and getting top 6 minutes.

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