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Luongo XIX - The Return Is Not Phaneuf

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07-04-2012, 12:59 PM
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After Burke's interview yesterday, doesn't seem as though Lou is coming to Toronto unless the asking price changes. That being said, wouldn;t be suprised to see that once the CBA is completed, either Gillis changes his asking price or uses the proposed amnesty clause to buy out Lou.
Just throwing this in... Local TV reporters asked Yzerman about the amnesty clause. He said there has been no mention of any such proposal and he has heard absolutely nothing about that idea. He also said if it did come up, he strongly doubts it would be approved. This was 2-3 weeks ago.

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Literally tweeted 20 minutes ago:

@News1130Sports: Panthers gm Dale Tallon tells FLO newspaper about Roberto Loungo - "I'm willing to listen to anything they have to offer."

@News1130Sports: More Tallon on Loungo - "I'm open to any suggestions, anything that makes us better," Obviously, Vancouver is in the driver's seat.
I don't know about the driver's seat, but if these quotes are accurate, it would appear to me that Tallon is going to force Vancouver to make the first move as far as negotiations. That's smart as it allows Tallon to adjust his counteroffer accordingly. Negates the chance of him making an opening offer that's higher than it needs to be.

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That's why he's trying to trade for him? Florida fans may not be all that interested in Luongo (particularly ones with handles like "Markstrom Rules"), but it's pretty clear the organization is. Making an offer an waiting seems like what those tweets are all about to me too though...
I never said he didn't want to trade for him. That doesn't mean he's falling all over himself to acquire him(at the current asking price). And actually, I am one of the few Florida fans who wouldn't mind Luongo coming back.

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That's smart as it allows Tallon to adjust his counteroffer accordingly. Negates the chance of him making an opening offer that's higher than it needs to be.


There's a 0% chance Tallon's initial offer is higher than Gillis'.

I'd make a guess at what Gillis wants but I don't want to get lynched by the Panthers' fans.

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07-04-2012, 01:11 PM
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A lot if you believe that the team sitting Luongo in favour of the backup in a playoff game didn't piss him off to no end and made him realize that he had to get out.
Doesn't matter what logic you use. Your saying things that didnt happen. You just gotta understand because you think something should happen doesn't mean it did happen.

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There's a 0% chance Tallon's initial offer is higher than Gillis'.
I didn't say it would be higher than Gillis'. I said it negated the chance it would be higher than it needs to be. For example, perhaps Tallon was thinking of Player A, Player B and Draft Pick 2. After receiving Gillis' offer, Tallon realizes he could get away instead with an initial counteroffer of Player A, Player C and Draft Pick 3.

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07-04-2012, 01:12 PM
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Thank you Kreskin.

And this is still a lie.

All Lou has ever said when asked whether he would waive his NTC (and keep in mind, this was a day after a bitter ending to the season)...all he said was. I'll do whatever is best for the team."

Because that is the kind of guy he is.
All that tells me is that you lack the ability to detect sarcasm or choose to ignore it. "I want to do the best for these guys who just finished publicly humiliating me."

And please stop calling me a liar.

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I don't think that Luongo reports nor should the team want a guy who asked out to be there anyway.
Here it is. Mooseoak rumor # 1.

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Doesn't matter what logic you use. Your saying things that didnt happen. You just gotta understand because you think something should happen doesn't mean it did happen.
Well, wouldn't it also hold true that because you think something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't?

Everybody's just voicing opinions here.

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All that tells me is that you lack the ability to detect sarcasm or choose to ignore it. "I want to do the best for these guys who just finished publicly humiliating me."

And please stop calling me a liar.
You r a liar.

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Well, wouldn't it also hold true that because you think something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't?

Everybody's just voicing opinions here.
No he was stating it as fact.

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No he was stating it as fact.
That wasn't my question.

Wouldn't it also hold true that because you think something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't?

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I didn't say it would be higher than Gillis'. I said it negated the chance it would be higher than it needs to be. For example, perhaps Tallon was thinking of Player A, Player B and Draft Pick 2. After receiving Gillis' offer, Tallon realizes he could get away instead with an initial counteroffer of Player A, Player C and Draft Pick 3.
I think secretly Tallon and Gillis BBM each other all day long. Also considering we deal with each other on what seems like an annual basis, both of our needs are probably visible.

It should be no secret that Bjugstad is who Gillis is after.

In the Ballard trade the 1st rounder we traded was conditional on Bjugstad being available.

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That wasn't my question.

Wouldn't it also hold true that because you think something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't?
Your logic is correct but your missing the point. It doesn't natter if it's true or not. He stated it as if it did happen.

Its possible the only reason the us is in the middle east is for oil but I'm not stating that as fact.

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That wasn't my question.

Wouldn't it also hold true that because you think something didn't happen doesn't mean it didn't?
Here it is 10% the truth.

No one know what has happened behind close doors. Anyone who claims either he has for sure, or hasn't is lying.

What we can say to 100% certainty, is he has not asked to be traded through the media, like some others, Ryan Nash.

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I think secretly Tallon and Gillis BBM each other all day long. Also considering we deal with each other on what seems like an annual basis, both of our needs are probably visible.

It should be no secret that Bjugstad is who Gillis is after.

In the Ballard trade the 1st rounder we traded was conditional on Bjugstad being available.
I see them much more as Facebook friends posting on each others wall.

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07-04-2012, 01:21 PM
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Here it is 10% the truth.

No one know what has happened behind close doors. Anyone who claims either he has for sure, or hasn't is lying.

What we can say to 100% certainty, is he has not asked to be traded through the media, like some others, Ryan Nash.
Howson formally informed the media, Nash didn't.

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Trading for a goalie mid-season was basically Burke's MO in Vancouver.

Trading for Weekes in January.
Picking up Legace off waivers.
Trading for Potvin.
Trading away Potvin in the middle of the season.
Acquiring Cloutier in February.
Waiving Martin Brochu in the start of the season.
Picking up Skudra after the season began.
Signing Hedberg (great move) - yet replacing him with Auld in the middle of season

Not to mention his huge blunders with Essensa and letting Irbe go.
Oh i get trading for a goalie mid season, my point was, when has he caved and overpaid for a player due to pressure.

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I see them much more as Facebook friends posting on each others wall.
Gillis: Damn it Tallon I don't want to play Farmville!

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I think secretly Tallon and Gillis BBM each other all day long. Also considering we deal with each other on what seems like an annual basis, both of our needs are probably visible.

It should be no secret that Bjugstad is who Gillis is after.

In the Ballard trade the 1st rounder we traded was conditional on Bjugstad being available.
It was contingent on Jarred Tinordi or Beau Bennett being available.

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I think secretly Tallon and Gillis BBM each other all day long. Also considering we deal with each other on what seems like an annual basis, both of our needs are probably visible.
I was thinking this other day. What is with us and the Panthers?

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All that tells me is that you lack the ability to detect sarcasm or choose to ignore it. "I want to do the best for these guys who just finished publicly humiliating me."

And please stop calling me a liar.
You said in your post (#152) :

"I don't think that Luongo reports nor should the team want a guy who asked out to be there anyway."

This is simply a lie.

It is not true.

Your pants are on fire.

No mas pantelones.

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I was thinking this other day. What is with us and the Panthers?
Garrison, Ballard, Booth, Luongo, Higgins. Do we even trade or sign free agents from anyone else? There's Hamhuis and Lapierre but not much more.

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Are canuck fans still denying the fact luongo has demanded a trade?

Im sure this entire situation is all coincidence then.

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Are canuck fans still denying the fact luongo has demanded a trade?

Im sure this entire situation is all coincidence then.
Coincidence in the sense that they have two really good starting goalies?
Kind of like you guys with Khabby and Dubnyk. One of them just has to go

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