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Shane Doan (Re-signs with Yotes)

View Poll Results: Do you want Doan?
Yes , At any cost/term 3 7.50%
Yes but only at reasonable cost/term 34 85.00%
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07-11-2012, 12:38 AM
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I am almost positive that the the Kings will not sniff a repeat, with our without Doan.

It simply doesn't happen anymore. LA has become incredibly overrated in a very short time. Now that they won a Cup, people are all thinking dynasty... I don't feel it at all.
While I don't think it will happen I think it could. They are similar to the Hawks in that most if their core is young, the big differences are, they aren't going to have to gut their team and that they have the X-factor in Quick and as we have seen goaltending can carry you a long way in the play-offs.

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07-11-2012, 12:51 AM
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i haven't complained about bowman yet

I dont' want luongo

I don't want doan

I'll gladly trade any prospect or draft pick we currently have for a player in his prime

I'm giving bowman one more season because I've liked his drafting and some of his trades so far. Though, he does appear to err on the side of caution.
I like this, but I would change it to I want Luongo and I give him 2 more seasons

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Good news. 3 years, 15M would be perfect. 2C, both ways, tough, brings leadership. Ahhhh, what am I saying? Bowman will find a way to **** it up.
this sounds bad... not perfect.

Doan is a Winger and a Winger only. If we get him, it's because Bowman was desperate to do anything and overpaid big time.

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07-11-2012, 01:05 AM
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While I don't think it will happen I think it could. They are similar to the Hawks in that most if their core is young, the big differences are, they aren't going to have to gut their team and that they have the X-factor in Quick and as we have seen goaltending can carry you a long way in the play-offs.
What is successful in the playoffs changes almost every year.

Kings went on a great hot streak in the playoffs and Quick played out of his mind. While they were better than a typical 8th seed for sure, they're also definitely not the powerhouse, almost generational roster that their playoff record seems to suggest.

There are 4 or 5 teams I'd take ahead of LA to win the Cup next year. I realize this is all opinion-based - it's just a gut feeling.

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07-11-2012, 01:19 AM
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Last year, Boston was said to be the next dynasty team.

Pittsburgh was also said to be the next dynasty in 2009.

I'm not saying it won't happen for LA, just that people tend to over-exaggerate the future success of recent Cup winners.

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07-11-2012, 02:44 AM
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Yeah, especially considering they barely made the fricken playoffs. They have a good team, but they got hot at the perfect time. They aren't the model of success or anything.

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07-11-2012, 05:05 AM
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LA just proves that you need a hot Goalie and to have 2 lines that can score all the time. And they had chemistry and played as a team

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Doan said he isn't deciding till 7/16 at the earliest, now.

I can only imagine he is hoping to get a little more clarity on the Coyotes location situation, but I haven't been following that closely of late.

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07-11-2012, 12:30 PM
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Toews told a Winnipeg paper that he's been texting Doan about joining the Hawks.

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Again, I don't think he'll be interested in moving to Chicago.

Taken from Chris Kuc's twitter page (July 9th 3:32PM) http://twitter.com/ChrisKuc :

Shane Doan's agent, Terry Bross, said not only have ‪#Blackhawks‬ contacted them, but also that Doan has interest in joining Hawks.

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07-11-2012, 12:50 PM
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Taken from Chris Kuc's twitter page (July 9th 3:32PM) http://twitter.com/ChrisKuc :

Shane Doan's agent, Terry Bross, said not only have ‪#Blackhawks‬ contacted them, but also that Doan has interest in joining Hawks.
Sorry for re-posting. I thought I was on the last page of this thread but wasn't. Anyway, here's "yesterday's news" if you are interested. lol

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07-11-2012, 12:58 PM
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as player: Hell yes
as contract: not sure if I would like it. Depends on the price and if a NMC/NTC is included. Couldn't bury him, but could trade him if he declines too fast.

Just have my doubts but I would like him as player for sure

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07-11-2012, 01:02 PM
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It seems that we almost all feel that we would like Doan under reasonable terms. This is exactly the dilemna that a guy like Bowman has. You want to improve the team but you don't want to overpay. Sometimes it means you end up doing nothing as a result.

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07-11-2012, 01:14 PM
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I wouldn't care if Doan would be 34 years old

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Taken from Chris Kuc's twitter page (July 9th 3:32PM) http://twitter.com/ChrisKuc :

Shane Doan's agent, Terry Bross, said not only have ‪#Blackhawks‬ contacted them, but also that Doan has interest in joining Hawks.
Doan's agent has said this for at least 5 teams. Us, Wings, Nucks, Yotes, and Sharks all that I know off of memory. It's just posturing at this point. I still say we're 3rd on his list AT BEST. I'd put the Nucks ahead of us easily, and Yotes as well if he gets confirmation that they're staying in Phoenix for another year. Wouldn't shock me if we were about even with the Sharks.

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07-11-2012, 01:23 PM
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Almost any term for Doan for 2 years is fine because the Hawks don't have any UFA's up but Stalberg. 3 years is dicey because they have to resign Bolland and Hjalmersson after 2 years.

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I wouldn't care if Doan would be 34 years old
I agree, it's a much different story if he wasn't a 35+.

If he would, by some weird turn of events, sign in Chicago, I don't think we'll like his contract after next season, and certainly not 3 years from now. I think somebody is going to offer him big (Jagr +) money for 4 or 5 years.

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It seems that we almost all feel that we would like Doan under reasonable terms. This is exactly the dilemna that a guy like Bowman has. You want to improve the team but you don't want to overpay. Sometimes it means you end up doing nothing as a result.
LOL ... with Stan it's not sometimes, it's pretty much always. Waiting for the perfect deal to fall into his lap is simply not going to happen. If this team is to be a SC contender "improving from within' is going to take years, if ever.

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Almost any term for Doan for 2 years is fine because the Hawks don't have any UFA's up but Stalberg. 3 years is dicey because they have to resign Bolland and Hjalmersson after 2 years.
Not necessarily, depending on how our prospects develop.

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I think Doan's worth the risk on a three year deal. If one year is the difference between getting him or not, give him the extra year to make it three years. It's worth the gamble, to me, because I think he makes this team that much better while he's here.

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I think Doan's worth the risk on a three year deal. If one year is the difference between getting him or not, give him the extra year to make it three years. It's worth the gamble, to me, because I think he makes this team that much better while he's here.
If Doan was the only player available maybe. I don't understand why people are so in favor of giving Doan a 2-3 year market level contract with all the additional risks. Is it just name recognition or something? You can find a player who can have a similar overall impact for less money and/or risk.

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If You can find a player who can have a similar overall impact for less money and/or risk.
Who?

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Who?
Andrei Kostitsyn. Top 6 forward who can score 20 goals, bring a physical presence, and will come cheaper and with less risk.

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Andrei Kostitsyn. Top 6 forward who can score 20 goals, bring a physical presence, and will come cheaper and with less risk.
Didn't say Doan was the only option, but he's a good one. If someone else can be brought aboard, I'm all for it. That said, it's not like Doan's 40 and coming off injury plagued seasons. Guy is still a very good option and brings a lot to a team.

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Didn't say Doan was the only option, but he's a good one. If someone else can be brought aboard, I'm all for it. That said, it's not like Doan's 40 and coming off injury plagued seasons. Guy is still a very good option and brings a lot to a team.
I'm not saying he isn't a good option. I'm saying he doesn't represent a large enough upgrade over another player to justify the risks of signing him to a 2-3 year market level deal when it is a 35+ contract. If Bowman can get Doan to sign for 10 mil for 2 years without a NTC/NMC then I am all for it. But I don't believe Chicago is the top team on his list and I don't want Bowman to get involved in the inevitable bidding war.

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Seriously? Comparing Doan to Kostitsyn.

Not only is Doan better offensively, he is a leader, he is tougher, he is a heart and soul guy, and he is better defensively. Those 2 should never be mentioned in the same breathe.

There is no one out there like Doan. The only reason I am skeptical about signing him to more than a 1-2 year deal is because of whats available next year.

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