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07-07-2012, 09:44 PM
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My thinking just goes that the best guy in front of the net is Parise, best guy wrist shot or one timer away is Heatley, the best passer is Granlund, if you change someone put Seto instead of Koivu. That could be lethal.

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07-07-2012, 11:11 PM
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My thinking just goes that the best guy in front of the net is Parise, best guy wrist shot or one timer away is Heatley, the best passer is Granlund, if you change someone put Seto instead of Koivu. That could be lethal.
Can't wait to see those fluttering saucer passes.

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07-07-2012, 11:14 PM
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I dont know if this is posted allready, just thinking he is about to play with players that can more often score from his passes.


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07-07-2012, 11:21 PM
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Alright...here me out guys...these are my lines...


1st Line: Parise - Koivu - Bouchard
2nd Line: Heatley - Granlund - Coyle
3rd Line: Cullen - Brodziak - Setoguchi
4th Line: Mitchel - Konopka - Clutterbuck

1st line D: Suter/Scandella
2nd Line D: Gilbert/Brodin
3rd Line D: Spurgeon/Stoner
Falk/Prosser


So I know Bouchard isn't the best fit on the first line next to Koivu and Parise, but Bouchard doesn't fit with Granlund all that well at all. Per Russo Granlund will MOST likely be tried at the 2nd line center spot to begin the season.

Koivu and Parise are for sure linemates. Bouchard is the best fit left because he's good with the puck and has pretty good vision as well. For those of you wanting to put Granlund in that spot Bouchard will do similiar things for you.

2nd Line...Again Granlund starts off at center. I like the idea of Granlund using his vision to create scoring opportunities for Heater all over the offensive zone. I know Coyle is a stretch. However, he would sit well with Heater I think. Both Heatley and Coyle would be big bodies. Coyle could do all the dirty work down low and get the puck to Granlund in space. You know? Something along those lines.

3rd Line: Setoguchi thrived playing on the 3rd line in San Jose. He's skilled, but he's also kind of a gritty skilled. I don't know if that makes sense, but from my observations he's more than willing to go into the corners and such. Cullen and him both have great speed as well. Cullen has good vision and could find Setoguchi for scoring opportunites. Brodziak does what he always does and is basically a Mikko Koivu lite. Scrappy. Great in the corners and in the cycle game. I think they would be a really high scoring 3rd line.

4th line brings the grit and could shut down any opposing lines really. They are as good as our 3rd line would be in most years. You can really pick and choose when you want to insert them and give you a physical presence. They could also score a couple cheepies for you.

On the defensive side I think Scandella would really benefit from having a safety net like Suter to back him up. He would be more free to be able to rush the puck and play with a little reckless abandon and not have to worry so much. I think that would help him a lot.

Brodin/Gilbert would be a really really solid 2nd pairing if Brodin can live up to what we think he can.

Than you can mix and match who you want on that 3rd pairing depending on the matchups. You can take Spurgeon out against bigger teams and such.

Or am I just crazy? In a perfect world this is what I would like to see them try...at least at first.

EDIT-- If Coyle didn't make the roster slide Setoguchi into his spot and Clutterbuck onto the 3rd line.


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07-08-2012, 12:29 AM
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That Granlund vid is pretty awesome

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07-08-2012, 12:39 AM
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I also would want Coyle there and Seto but will this happen this year is another matter.
The second line is probably going to live the whole season unless something clicks perfectly.


I really want too see what Parise-Koivu-Heatley can do with big minutes, if it works this team can go far this season, not the next.

Parise and Koivu need a guy that shoots those goals that they usually dont, the options are Heatley and Seto, my first pick is Heatley.

I remember when Selänne had knee trouble for some years but he got it fixed during the lock out, look at him now..

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I also would want Coyle there and Seto but will this happen this year is another matter.
The second line is probably going to live the whole season unless something clicks perfectly.


I really want too see what Parise-Koivu-Heatley can do with big minutes, if it works this team can go far this season, not the next.

Parise and Koivu need a guy that shoots those goals that they usually dont, the options are Heatley and Seto, my first pick is Heatley.

I remember when Selänne had knee trouble for some years but he got it fixed during the lock out, look at him now..

Agree completely. Bouchard is a great player. I love to watch him, but I wish we had another shoot first and from anywhere type of guy. We need another guy like that.

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07-08-2012, 02:11 AM
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So I think it's safe to assume this is the best team we've ever iced.

And the team has generated buzz around the hockey world.

My biggest question, is what will CF do for an encore ?

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07-08-2012, 03:41 AM
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I honestly thought Bouchard was awesome on the PP point when he was there last season.

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07-08-2012, 04:40 AM
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Remember guys Heatley is a natural LW I don´t know if he will slot too well on the RW and besides Parise is a legit 30 goal scorer and Koivu can also score but my good would he need to shoot more often. So I would rather keep Parise and Heatley on different lines. Stacking the 1st line hinders depth scoring from the 2nd line.

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07-08-2012, 04:53 AM
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Remember guys Heatley is a natural LW I don´t know if he will slot too well on the RW and besides Parise is a legit 30 goal scorer and Koivu can also score but my good would he need to shoot more often. So I would rather keep Parise and Heatley on different lines. Stacking the 1st line hinders depth scoring from the 2nd line.
Heatley can play both wings. Seto's the only right handed shot in our top 6 so no matter what, somebody's gonna be playing on the off wing.

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Remember guys Heatley is a natural LW I don´t know if he will slot too well on the RW and besides Parise is a legit 30 goal scorer and Koivu can also score but my good would he need to shoot more often. So I would rather keep Parise and Heatley on different lines. Stacking the 1st line hinders depth scoring from the 2nd line.
Heatley has pretty much played at RW exclusively for the majority of his career. That being said... if it was my choice, and Bouchard was healthy... I'd have Bouchard at RW with Parise and Koivu. Then have Heatley at RW with Seto and Granlund.

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07-08-2012, 05:15 AM
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Heatley has pretty much played at RW exclusively for the majority of his career. That being said... if it was my choice, and Bouchard was healthy... I'd have Bouchard at RW with Parise and Koivu. Then have Heatley at RW with Seto and Granlund.
Heatley played LW in his Sens years with Spezza as center and Alfie on the RW.

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Heatley played LW in his Sens years with Spezza as center and Alfie on the RW.
Atlanta, San Jose and now Minnesota... he's been on the RW.

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07-08-2012, 05:22 AM
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Atlanta, San Jose and now Minnesota... he's been on the RW.
And Seto has always played RW except for a few times this past season so it makes sense that they play on seperate lines.

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07-08-2012, 05:34 AM
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And Seto has always played RW except for a few times this past season so it makes sense that they play on seperate lines.
Except for the fact that we have Bouchard who plays exclusively on the RW, Cullen who plays center or LW, Parise who is strictly LW... Not a lot of room to separate these guys.

Do you really want Bouchard on the same like with Granlund? If you do... you still end up with Seto on the LW. Bouchard isn't going to play on the 3rd line... he's defensively useless.

The only way both Seto and Heatley get to play RW is if Bouchard doesn't play... Then Cullen can get bumped back up to the 2nd line LW... which is an obvious downgrade IMO.

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Atlanta, San Jose and now Minnesota... he's been on the RW.
Wasn't Heatley mostly always on the LW last year?

Even in the dark days, it was;
Heatley - Peters - Johnson

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Wasn't Heatley mostly always on the LW last year?

Even in the dark days, it was;
Heatley - Peters - Johnson



That being said it's amazing Heatley was still so high on the Wild to lobby Suter, and Parise to come here, lol.

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07-08-2012, 12:19 PM
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wonder if we're going to spend more time ironing out combos this year vs. giving youngins ice time to prove themselves? More preseason games with more regulars vs. skating near the minimum (8?).

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Heatley - Peters - Johnson

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Yeah, and according to Ryan Lambert... The injuries that we suffered were just a convenient excuse about us regressing to the mean.

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Pipe Dream:
Step 1:
To CBJ: Heatley, Phillips, Larsson, 1st
To MIN: Nash
Step 2:
To (any team): Bouchard
To MIN: (anything)
Step 3:
Sign Doan at 4 yrs, 4.5 per
Lines:
Parise - Koivu - Nash
Setoguchi - Granlund - Doan
Cullen - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Powe - Konopka - Mitchell
Vellieux/Kassian

Obviously would be screwed financially long-term. But...


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Pipe Dream:
Step 1:
To CBJ: Heatley, Phillips, Larsson, 1st
To MIN: Nash
Step 2:
To (any team): Bouchard
To MIN: (anything)
Step 3:
Sign Doan at 4 yrs, 4.5 per
Lines:
Parise - Koivu - Nash
Setoguchi - Granlund - Doan
Cullen - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Powe - Konopka - Mitchell
Vellieux/Kassian

Obviously would be screwed financially long-term. But...
I would rather have Heatley over Nash. No chance I give up a 1st, Phillips and Larsson just to add more years of an overpaid contract.

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Pipe Dream:
Step 1:
To CBJ: Heatley, Phillips, Larsson, 1st
To MIN: Nash
Step 2:
To (any team): Bouchard
To MIN: (anything)
Step 3:
Sign Doan at 4 yrs, 4.5 per
Lines:
Parise - Koivu - Nash
Setoguchi - Granlund - Doan
Cullen - Brodziak - Clutterbuck
Powe - Konopka - Mitchell
Vellieux/Kassian

Obviously would be screwed financially long-term. But...
Heater likes it here (well, he must if he was willing to go to bat for this team after last years collapse), and hes reportedly a great locker room guy. He just had surgery to fix his knee so he should be better than he has been in a while. And he just has a great attitude about stuff.

Nash would be a distraction I think. Plus we would have to give up way too much to get him.

Let some other sucker sell their soul to Columbus for him.

I kind of hope he never gets traded and he just ends up stuck there forever. I dont have anything against him really... I just think it would be kind of funny.

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