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Paul Stastny+ for Joe Colborne+

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07-05-2012, 07:03 PM
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Ah yes, tragic. Woe unto me, we are stuck with Dion Phaneuf.
This is pretty much how Avs fans feel when after we reject a Stastny proposal were told were stuck with him because X offer is the best we could get for him

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07-05-2012, 07:05 PM
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Bolded looks way better at first glance but I don't follow enough COL games to be sure.

Hedjuk seems pretty soft... I'm assuming he's being included in OP as an additional cap dump?
Is this some sort of joke...?

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07-05-2012, 07:23 PM
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Throw in a Lombardi to replace Stastny and I think it looks decent, I've always liked Lombardi's speed.
Take Komisarek and Connolly as well. No way we'd trade that much for just Statsny

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07-05-2012, 07:26 PM
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I don't think the Leafs and Avs will be trading until a couple more years go by.

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07-05-2012, 07:45 PM
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Ouchh ! That's a bad 1. We all know Statsny would be a good fit in TO but they'd have to overpay to acquire him. That package would't be close..

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07-05-2012, 10:15 PM
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I would do something around Phaneuf I think. He gets a bad rap, but he's got the tools to be a great defenseman, and he and Johnson on a line together would certainly be, uh.. pugnacious. There's pretty much three scenarios I see for Stastny, IF he were to be traded (and that should be emphasized because almost none of these proposals are being created by us Avs fans).

Stastny + pick/prospect for Yandle
Statsny for Enstrom (if an extension were lined up or already in place, I'd do this one for one)
Stastny for Phaneuf + pick/prospect
Not to disrespect Phaneuf, but I'd prefer either of the other two trades.

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07-05-2012, 10:19 PM
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It's more fair then the normal proposals but why would the Avs undersell their best center for an old prospect and two more mediocre wingers.

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07-05-2012, 10:25 PM
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So if Stastny was as good as Getzlaf and Kopitar the past few years he'd be as good as Getzlaf and Kopitar?

More BS doublespeak from Avs homers. To try to distort reality. If Stastny had put up 200 point seasons the past few years he'd be as good as Gretzky. The fact is he didn't.

At best Stastny would be worth a first rounder, decent but not blue chip prospect, and an overpaid roster player.
Unfortunately the Avs GM watches Stastny play and realizes who he is playing with. Kenvin Porter, Chuck Kobasew, and David jones. Not Selanne and Perry, so he will not be low balling him. Stazz is as good as Getzlaf, anyone with a pair of eyeballs and Avalanche streams can see this.

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07-05-2012, 10:32 PM
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Unfortunately the Avs GM watches Stastny play and realizes who he is playing with. Kenvin Porter, Chuck Kobasew, and David jones. Not Selanne and Perry, so he will not be low balling him. Stazz is as good as Getzlaf, anyone with a pair of eyeballs and Avalanche streams can see this.
Because I was a Canucks fan throughout the 90s and 2000s, I'm still required to hate him. But even I, with all my bias and homerism, can say that if Stastny is moving, to Toronto, for Colborne.....there has to be some significant "+" coming to Colorado.

By the way, need a top 10 goalie in the Mile High City...

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07-08-2012, 06:27 AM
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Colborne + Franson? Then Avs overpay Doan to reach capfloor. Would also love Doan. And I'm not sure about the values of the players...

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07-08-2012, 06:30 AM
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Stazz is as good as Getzlaf, anyone with a pair of eyeballs and Avalanche streams can see this.


Next up: Erik Johnson is as good as Shea Weber.

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07-08-2012, 06:35 AM
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Next up: Erik Johnson is as good as Shea Weber.
He is though....

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That would be horrible for Hejduk to get dumbed in to lottery team

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07-08-2012, 06:40 AM
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Kadri, Kuli,Blacker, 2013 2nd

Is somehwere in the range

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07-08-2012, 06:42 AM
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Kadri, Kuli,Blacker, 2013 2nd

Is somehwere in the range
That's overpayment but Avs fans will cry and say its nowhere close to enough, your not getting a top pairing defenseman for stastny so stop asking for one.

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07-08-2012, 06:47 AM
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That's overpayment but Avs fans will cry and say its nowhere close to enough, your not getting a top pairing defenseman for stastny so stop asking for one.
It might be a tad over, but it's awful hard to leverage solid Cs off teams.

It's in the ballpark of what it took to get MR outa philly.

I would rate PS just a shade below MR as i would also rate kadri/Kuli a shade below schenn/simmons.

Our 2013 2nd surely holds more value than LAs 2012 2nd due to where it will slot and the strength of the draft class.

Blacker tops up the difference in quality between s/s and k/k.


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07-08-2012, 06:51 AM
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Kadri, Kuli,Blacker, 2013 2nd

Is somehwere in the range
That's a deal it'd take to pry Stastny off the Avs - at least.

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07-08-2012, 06:52 AM
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That's overpayment but Avs fans will cry and say its nowhere close to enough, your not getting a top pairing defenseman for stastny so stop asking for one.
Yeah Avs get one guy that could actually make the roster in Kulemin and it's overpayment.

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Question for Avs fans: Would you guys take Jake Gardiner and Komisarek for Stastny?

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Question for Avs fans: Would you guys take Jake Gardiner and Komisarek for Stastny?
no

first of all that would leave the avs with 9 defensemen eligible for waivers, 7 of which are 4-6 guys.

Also, gardiner could probably be the main piece coming back, but it would take more than gardiner alone (komisarek is negative value)

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07-08-2012, 07:12 AM
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Yeah Avs get one guy that could actually make the roster in Kulemin and it's overpayment.
By the reports i hear, Blacker is ready to take the next step.

If my gut is right , this will be Hejduks last season and Kadri could step in to replace a O style rw.


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07-08-2012, 07:37 AM
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By the reports i hear Blacker is ready to take the next step.

If my gut is right , this will be Hejduks last season and Kadri could step in to replace a O style rw.
Blacker would be behind EJ, O'Byrne, Elliott and Barrie on the right side and that's without accounting for the slew of bottom pairing d-men Avs already have on their roster. The chances of him making the Avs roster are slim to none.

As for Kadri, Avs have Hishon and Sgarbossa coming up trough the ranks and they'll compete for Hejduk's spot in the future.

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Blacker would be behind EJ, O'Byrne, Elliott and Barrie on the right side and that's without accounting for the slew of bottom pairing d-men Avs already have on their roster. The chances of him making the Avs roster are slim to none.

As for Kadri, Avs have Hishon and Sgarbossa coming up trough the ranks and they'll compete for Hejduk's spot in the future.
Surely you are not putting Hish or Sgar in the same class as Kadri.

I have heard that one can never have enough right handed shots on D.

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Surely you are not putting Hish or Sgar in the same class as Kadri.

I have heard that one can never have enough right handed shots on D.
I'm not putting anyone in classes.

And Avs have enough of RH d-men.

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Bad proposal, one of the worst serious proposals I seen in a long time.

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