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I actually thought about this the other day. Filppula and some top prospects. The problem is that i listed your top six forward prospects and added a first and it still wasn't appealing enough. Not that the Red Wings have a poor prospect pool. I actually like a ton of the forward prospects in that system. I wouldn't trade Yandle for all of them.
Preferably, Nyquist, Jarnkrok, and Smith would be off limits, but a deal around Filppula, Tatar, Quincey/Kindl, and perhaps Jurco doesn't sound enticing at all?
I'd certainly be interested in Filppula. Maybe Filppula, Tatar/Pulkkinen/Jarnkrok and a 1st? Don't really know all that much about your forward prospects, though.
I don't think they'd take it. They apparently turned down Gagner, Pajaarvi and a 2nd. It's not like the value or makeup of those two packages is very different.
I don't think they'd take it. They apparently turned down Gagner, Pajaarvi and a 2nd. It's not like the value or makeup of those two packages is very different.
Speaking for myself, Filppula >> Gagner. But I'd still want an overpayment hehe.
If were dealing with Detroit, i'd assume Filppula would be the roster player of interest. I don't know what other pieces would be added though. Most likely futures of some kind. But I'd much rather keep Yandle. And can we not bring the Oilers stuff back into this thread?
Preferably, Nyquist, Jarnkrok, and Smith would be off limits, but a deal around Filppula, Tatar, Quincey/Kindl, and perhaps Jurco doesn't sound enticing at all?
I quite honestly would turn down every name youve typed even if all eight were offered all at once.
Just out of curiosity, is Yandle still rumored to be available?
The official line from Maloney is that anyone outside of Doan can be had for the right price. He'll listen to offers, but it'll take a special offer (i.e. overpayment) to snag Yandle.
The official line from Maloney is that anyone outside of Doan can be had for the right price. He'll listen to offers, but it'll take a special offer (i.e. overpayment) to snag Yandle.
All we know for sure is that Maloney considered, but ultimately rejected an trade offer for Yandle which included a Top 10 pick during the Draft.
Obviously the Yotes need bonafide Top 6 forwards. Anything specific beyond that (e.g. specific targets) is, well, speculation. But I do know we place a high value on two-way ability and chemistry, i.e. being able to fit into Tippet's system. Hence deals centered around one-trick ponies with major defensive and/or character issues will be non-starters, for me at least.
All we know for sure is that Maloney considered, but ultimately rejected an trade offer for Yandle which included a Top 10 pick during the Draft.
Obviously the Yotes need bonafide Top 6 forwards. Anything specific beyond that (e.g. specific targets) is, well, speculation. But I do know we place a high value on two-way ability and chemistry, i.e. being able to fit into Tippet's system. Hence deals centered around one-trick ponies with major defensive and/or character issues will be non-starters, for me at least.
Gotcha. Well, if Yandle is made available, it's a good thing that the Blues play a similar system. Every player would have a seamless transition IMO.
I'm happy as long as Detroit doesn't get him, but would be ecstatic if we got him. Pietrangelo and Yandle would easily be the best pairing in the league now that Weber and Suter are broken up.
Gotcha. Well, if Yandle is made available, it's a good thing that the Blues play a similar system. Every player would have a seamless transition IMO.
I agree, which is I'd definitely consider something like Oshie + Schwartz for Yandle from the Blues. Perron is intriguing, but the injury history lowers his value a bit.
I really do like Yandle, esp. since he's committed to the franchise long-term in the face of the ownership cluster****. But if the offer is too good for the Yotes to pass up, gotta take it. At least there won't be much of an adjustment period for both parties.
I'm happy as long as Detroit doesn't get him, but would be ecstatic if we got him. Pietrangelo and Yandle would easily be the best pairing in the league now that Weber and Suter are broken up.
Sir, don't you realize it's the Red Wings God given right to qualify for the playoffs every season? Certainly, Yandle would only help in that endeavor, and if I didn't know any better, I'd say you wanted to deprive the Red Wings of that right.
But I do know we place a high value on two-way ability and chemistry, i.e. being able to fit into Tippet's system. Hence deals centered around one-trick ponies with major defensive and/or character issues will be non-starters, for me at least.
I've been a Dallas fan for some time, so I'm familiar with Tippett, and I think Filppula would fit perfectly. He's exactly what you describe, and two-way forward with offensive instincts that works in the top 6, PP, or PK. He's a working Finn, like Jere Lehtinen.
I don't think he's worth Yandle alone, but in terms of centers that fit your description, he's probably the best available on the market.
They have an amazing system down there that tends to inflate the value of players. There's a huge risk that these guys won't be as good under another system and they'll flop.
I think Yandle is a good player but like I said, I'm skeptical to pay a high price for him.
I quite honestly would turn down every name youve typed even if all eight were offered all at once.
You have some research to do, my friend. Nyquist, Smith, Jarnkrok, and Jurco are all top notch prospects at this point in time. I can see how you would believe that, though. Detroit does a poor job of showcasing their prospects.
They have an amazing system down there that tends to inflate the value of players. There's a huge risk that these guys won't be as good under another system and they'll flop.
I think Yandle is a good player but like I said, I'm skeptical to pay a high price for him.
I'm only skeptical of certain ones and Yandle is a strange case. If he gets moved, I think his offensive production goes up but his defensive value goes down. Last season actually was the worst I've seen him perform defensively from the past 3 yrs, OEL was definitely better in that department but he still has his skating/puck moving ability. The system they play though does help, I see him as more of a 2nd-3rd dman than a no1.
I think Gormley can be better than Yandle and Rundblad can be better as well in terms of offense so it's a great chance for Phx to move him when the demand is their and they have their own shortage at wing.
I think Yandle is a very good defenseman, but he's fairly overrated. He doesn't play much against top lines and he gets a lot of offensive zone starts so that inflates his stats a bit.
He's a good defenseman, sure, but I'm not sure he's really the #1 d-man a lot of people think he is.
