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02-24-2012, 03:56 PM
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Could this work: khl/nhl or nhl/khl trades

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The player would have to pass through waivers. Until there is some groundwork laid between the NHL and KHL on player movement, there won't be any real trades between the two.

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NHL/KHL and KHL/NHL are the same thing.

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I doubt very much the NHLPA would sign off on anything that would allow it's members to be shipped off to Siberia with no say in the matter.

It's one thing to be traded to Buffalo. It's another to be moved across the planet to a place where not many folks would go if they had a better option.

Could you imagine the threats from GMs though? Play well or else we'll package you off to who-knows-where Russia.

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No.

Would you expect Patrick Kane accepting being traded and going to the KHL?

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NHLPA would shoot this down so quick as is.

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It could happen with Russian prospects and in a sense it already does with transfer agreements. No way in hell any North American with NHL talent would ever want to go to Russia.

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No way. Players would refuse to switch leagues and not report to teams, (remind you of anyone?) maybe straight cash could work for some deals, (Team plays KHL team in money for the player) but it just seems like it would get too complicated to work.

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No. That was an easy question to answer.

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"At least Buffalo isn't the worst place to get traded to now" - Brad Marchand


Winner!!!

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No way. Players would refuse to switch leagues and not report to teams, (remind you of anyone?) maybe straight cash could work for some deals, (Team plays KHL team in money for the player) but it just seems like it would get too complicated to work.
It would be too complicated if a KHL team was to trade away a draft pick (or several picks) for a NHL player or draft picks; then again I would see Gauthier try to ship off Tinordi to Magnitogorsk (if you want to know why I brought up Magnitogorsk, it's because Tinordi is himself a Magnitogorsk draftee) for Sushinsky+Magnitka's first+...

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Reminds me of this


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if khl players want to play in the nhl and are good enough they woudl just sign? if this started happening the NHL wouldn't be THE place to play for superstar players and u would see more russian and european players staying in there own countries

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Nobody would want to be banishe- I mean traded to Russia or Latvia or something like that.

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Transfer Agreement

While i posted this a while ago it needs to reiterated, I agree that the KHL and other European leagues should receive fair compensation for their players moving to the NHL, this fee wouldn't be paid by the NHL rather instead it would be paid by the team itself ( doesnt count towards the cap) . the following are factors that would be considered when deciding the fee

- Age
- Role on the KHL team
- Role on the NHL team
- Contract

In the event that a player decides to come to North America or vice versa if they have a contract they can terminate the contract with their team, however the player must pay the entire amount themselves, as well the new team must match the offer.

I honestly belive that Washington should have paid UHC Dynamo at least 50 million, thats what the KHL team deserves. While i am an Ottawa fan they should receive fair compensation. Also vice versa Ufa should have paid 15 million to Nashville for compensation ( Due to Radulov honoring his contract with Nashville the fee wouldnt count, but its the only example i could think of.)

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How does HF value 2nd round picks in the KHL draft?

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NHLPA would never let this fly.

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Absolutely not.

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Nobody would want to be banishe- I mean traded to Russia or Latvia or something like that.
Or traded from St Petersburg to Buffalo or Edmonton

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In soccer you don't have trades, but something similar.

If a team from a different league wants a player, that player has to first come to an agreement with the new team. The new team then pays the old team to release the player from the contract.

The only problem is a system like that defies everything the league is attempting to establish with income parity. Soccer is instead dominated by a few massive clubs who can buy what they want. Works better on a global scale, as you have other levels of competition/income to keep people interested.

Don't think hockey is anywhere near there nor will it ever be. Too inaccessible to people

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While i posted this a while ago it needs to reiterated, I agree that the KHL and other European leagues should receive fair compensation for their players moving to the NHL, this fee wouldn't be paid by the NHL rather instead it would be paid by the team itself ( doesnt count towards the cap) . the following are factors that would be considered when deciding the fee

- Age
- Role on the KHL team
- Role on the NHL team
- Contract

In the event that a player decides to come to North America or vice versa if they have a contract they can terminate the contract with their team, however the player must pay the entire amount themselves, as well the new team must match the offer.

I honestly belive that Washington should have paid UHC Dynamo at least 50 million, thats what the KHL team deserves. While i am an Ottawa fan they should receive fair compensation. Also vice versa Ufa should have paid 15 million to Nashville for compensation ( Due to Radulov honoring his contract with Nashville the fee wouldnt count, but its the only example i could think of.)
When Russia stops being an ass backwards country that doesn't use intimidation and threats of violence towards players and their families to force them into contracts they don't want then maybe negotiations can begin. But we're at least a generation or two away from that happening.

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How would it work though? Players wouldn't want to go to Russia - money?

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A bit off topic, but I don't understand why everybody keeps equating living in Russia to living in the depths of hell. The country has come a LONG way since it's financial collapse in 98, and living standards have significantly risen. While it makes a lot more sense for Russian/Czech/Slovakian players to bolt to the KHL for more money, I'm surprised younger NA players have decided against it, perhaps those who find themselves being bounced around between the NHL and AHL.
Atleast for a year or two, simply for the money and the crazy life experience. Playing for CSKA Moscow and being payed handsomely sounds nicer than AHL conditions. Seriously, Moscow/St.Petersburg >>>>>>>>>Any AHL city as far as living in goes.

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