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Edmonton re-signs Devan Dubnyk (2 years, $3.5M per) & Jeff Petry (2 years, 1.75M per)

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07-05-2012, 05:58 PM
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Over the past two seasons:

Khabibulin - W 22 L 52 (!!!!) OTL 11
Dubnyk - W 32 L 33 OTL 11

Dubnyk is clearly the better option but he'd better be ready to take the next step. The spotlight just got a hell of a light brighter with the Oilers needing to display some traction in the standings in 12/13.

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Khabis 3.75 is done after this year. So they are basically already replacing him with Devan.

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07-05-2012, 05:59 PM
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I've watched him while being unbiased, I doubt you can say the same.
But Luke Schenn is a bottom pairing defenceman. Nothing will change that.

Not that it matters to the Leafs anymore. Kudos.

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07-05-2012, 06:01 PM
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lmfao
dubnyk should never be mentioned in the same sentence as those two

...and you have seen those two behind the Oilers terrible defence of last year?

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As an only fan I am not crazy about Dubnyk's money about a mill overpaid but Petry's on the other hand is a steal! Hopefully they keep improving.

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No it's not. He could have gotten 3M and no one would be complaining.
Yes, it is. To give that much money to an average RFA goalie with no leverage makes no sense whatsoever. That is money more fitting for a guaranteed 1A RFA. Dubnyk has proven nothing. He has shown he can put a decent string of games together with the team completely out of the playoff picture, i.e. no pressure. This is basically the equivalent of signing Yann Danis for $2.5m+ in 2009 because he did pretty well for the Islanders that year.

Steve Tambellini just keeps finding new ways to show me I've underestimated the depth of his cluelessness. There was no need to sign this RFA to a contract that relies on hoping the kid can somehow live up to it. This contract is short and expensive for no discernible reason. What a clusterfk this team's management is.

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I was told he's better than Erik Johnson, if he's so much better, why is he getting about 2M less than EJ?
Draft pedigree and experience.

Seriously though, Petry isn't as good as Johnson, but he is very, very good and this is a steal of a contract.

Dubs is overpaid by about a million right now, but I don't think its a big enough deal to get worked up over.

And to the guy comparing the Dubnyk deal to Wideman's...I hope you are joking. A 5 year deal, 5 million per year, and a NTC for a guy who has three teams that he has played on not want him back, versus a 2 year, 3.5 per year deal on an emerging goalie who is going to start this year, and if he stinks, is gone in two or traded in one.

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Yes, it is. To give that much money to an average RFA goalie with no leverage makes no sense whatsoever. That is money more fitting for a guaranteed 1A RFA. Dubnyk has proven nothing. He has shown he can put a decent string of games together with the team completely out of the playoff picture, i.e. no pressure. This is basically the equivalent of signing Yann Danis for $2.5m+ in 2009 because he did pretty well for the Islanders that year.

Steve Tambellini just keeps finding new ways to show me I've underestimated the depth of his cluelessness. There was no need to sign this RFA to a contract that relies on hoping the kid can somehow live up to it. This contract is short and expensive for no discernible reason. What a clusterfk this team's management is.
3.5 doesn't get you anyone better than Dubnyk.

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Dubnyk is overpaid forsure, IMO about 750k.

Wideman is overpaid by about 1 million and it's 5 year deal with a NTC.
Pretty sure the zamboni driver at the Saddledome has a NMC.

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I've watched him while being unbiased, I doubt you can say the same.
I dont think you understand what the word "unbiased" means.

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Dubnyk is overpaid forsure, IMO about 750k.

Wideman is overpaid by about 1 million and it's 5 year deal with a NTC.
Not a NTC, but a NMC.

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07-05-2012, 06:32 PM
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Is Calgary the only team in the league who has players with NTC/NMC's or what?

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Awful deal for Dubnyk but since he'll be a UFA after this, he can be dumped for someone better when the opportunity presents itself. Petry deal is reasonable, comparable to Wilson.

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Opposite end of the spectrum signings. Dubnyk's is ridiculous and Petry's is beautiful. That is all.

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Is Calgary the only team in the league who has players with NTC/NMC's or what?
The only team with nonsensical, idiotic no-trade clauses.

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Damn, and i thought widemans contract was bad.
It really is, and worse.

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I was told he's better than Erik Johnson, if he's so much better, why is he getting about 2M less than EJ?
EJ is overpaid for what he brings to the table, but I guess being drafted so high even if you don't live up to expectations has its entitlements.

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Pretty sure the zamboni driver at the Saddledome has a NMC.
That I wouldn't doubt for a minute. Feasted and Sutter handed those out like candy.

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3.5 doesn't get you anyone better than Dubnyk.
Rask disagrees.

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I've got a feeling that Dubnyk will end up in a similar situation as J.Quick.

A good young goalie who struggles at the begging of his career, but grows with a young inexperienced team in front of him. Once the team as a whole finds it's way and he has a chance to develop properly, then Dubnyk will show his true colours.

I'm not calling a Vezina worthy season or a Stanley Cup, but he will establish himself in this league.

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Is Calgary the only team in the league who has players with NTC/NMC's or what?
Literally almost half of its roster (11) have some sort of a NTC/NMC (limited or not), and 5 of which are defensemen. It's a little too much but I guess that's how they keep cost down?

In line with the Oilers thread, it will probably be the same case when all these kids get their next contract.

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Guess we'll see after this season - they're both going to be shouldering the load this year... unfortunately Rask has a little more to work with
Rask is proven and dominated the league when he was the starter in 09-10...Tim Thomas playing out of this world put him as a backup temporarily, but I have no problems saying Rask > Dubnyk.

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Here's a list of some of the goalies that re-signed this year with their GAA and SV% in 2011/2012, and their cap hits 2012-2013 forward.

Name-------GAA-------SV%-------CAP HIT

C.Price------2.43------.916--------$6.5million
O.Pavelec---2.91------.906--------$3.9million
J.Quick------1.95------.929--------$5.8million
C.Schneider--1.96-----.937--------$4.0million
P.Rinne------2.39------.923--------$7.0million
D.Dubnyk----2.67------.914--------$3.5million

Dubey's contract actually isn't that bad.

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07-05-2012, 06:50 PM
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A bit insulting for Petry. He's an homegrown talent, brought to first pairing duties last year. Then Tambellini signs a rookie defenseman to a 4 year deal at 3 million a year. Then Petry signs for half then that.

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07-05-2012, 06:51 PM
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While Petry is a steal, Dubnyk is indeed overpaid about 1M. But hey, he isn't bad, it's just two years. Considering another options, not the worst deal at all.

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Rask is proven and dominated the league when he was the starter in 09-10...Tim Thomas playing out of this world put him as a backup temporarily, but I have no problems saying Rask > Dubnyk.
Rask also has a great team in front of him, especially a Norris candidate in Chara.

Taking nothing away from Rask though, I think he's a phenomenal goalie who just had to play back up for a while.

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Over the past two seasons:

Khabibulin - W 22 L 52 (!!!!) OTL 11
Dubnyk - W 32 L 33 OTL 11
so the oilers were tanking on purpose......

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