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07-06-2012, 12:47 PM
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Florida gets Luongo+Colin Wilson for Weiss

Vancouver gets Weber for Luongo+Edler+Raymond+Schroeder

Nashville gets Edler+Weiss+Raymond+Schroeder for Weber+Wilson

Or something, I don't know. Tough to make it work.
Take out Schroeder and I'd do it.

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Agreed...so give us Luongo dammit!!
I'll have my guys send over the papers.

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Take out Schroeder and I'd do it.
Then it's no deal from Nashville. Wilson=Raymond+Schroeder, Weber=Weiss+Edler (UFA in a year).

Maybe switch it to your 1st instead?

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I'll have my guys send over the papers.
Perfect....shall i get Komi on the plane???

JUST KIDDING!!!

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Florida gets Luongo+Colin Wilson for Weiss

Vancouver gets Weber for Luongo+Edler+Raymond+Schroeder

Nashville gets Edler+Weiss+Raymond+Schroeder for Weber+Wilson

Or something, I don't know. Tough to make it work.
I like this idea of a three way trade getting Van Weber. Is there any way you see it working out were we don't give up Edler? It would be tough, but I salivate at a top 4 of Edler-Weber Hamhuis-Bieksa.

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I like this idea of a three way trade getting Van Weber. Is there any way you see it working out were we don't give up Edler? It would be tough, but I salivate at a top 4 of Edler-Weber Hamhuis-Bieksa.
Dont think there would enough cap space going forward to sign Weber and extend Edler. So no I dont think it is possible any way you look at it.

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Then it's no deal from Nashville. Wilson=Raymond+Schroeder, Weber=Weiss+Edler (UFA in a year).

Maybe switch it to your 1st instead?
I would switch it to our 1st. Reason being we really have no C prospects ready and we are very thin at C with Kesler injured. Gaunce isn't ready obviously, and we are expecting Schroeder to step into the 2C spot to start the year.

The rest of the deal im good with.

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If it came down to it would you do either Gardiner or Lupul straight up Luo?
Wow....IF i had to choose, Lupul i guess. With trading Schenn Gards is a nogo. JVR is in AND i guess we could make a run at Ryan if need be.

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I might be in the minority of Canucks fans, and maybe Toronto fans wouldn't want this. But could we replace Kadri with Colborne? I personally like Colborne better as a player then Kadri, especially playing under AV.
Kadri is way more ready and has changed his attitude quite a bit. Didn't I also hear he's committed to playing a complete game on both sides of the puck?

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Dont think there would enough cap space going forward to sign Weber and extend Edler. So no I dont think it is possible any way you look at it.
They would have enough cap space if they trade Luongo and Ballard.

They have more than enough to give Weber a long term deal at 7M (hometown discount) and Edler 6M while keeping most if not all of the guys who will be UFAs next year

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I would switch it to our 1st. Reason being we really have no C prospects ready and we are very thin at C with Kesler injured. Gaunce isn't ready obviously, and we are expecting Schroeder to step into the 2C spot to start the year.

The rest of the deal im good with.
Awesome. I would love Shrodes, but obviously your 1st isn't bad, and I see why you need him. Now we just need a Florida perspective....

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If it came down to it would you do either Gardiner or Lupul straight up Luo?
I would accept Gardiner straight up, or Luongo/Raymond for Lupul/2.

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Take out Schroeder and I'd do it.
Agreed. only if with a Weber long term deal though

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....

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Dont think there would enough cap space going forward to sign Weber and extend Edler. So no I dont think it is possible any way you look at it.
Meh, trade Edler to Anaheim for Ryan. Granted, I would live with that Nas/Flo/Van trade easily.

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....
Nah, we'll just sign him when he walks for nothing next season.

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....
Honestly wouldn't mind swapping Edler for Bieksa and adding a 1st. With Garrison signed he could play with Hamhuis and our top pairing could be Edler Weber.

I still say best thing to do is offersheet Weber 1 year 10M. then trade Luongo for Santorelli, Theodore and a 1st, Ballard for a 2nd, Malhotra for 2 4ths, Theodore for 2 2nds and a 3rd. 1 1st, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 2 4ths all split up over the next 4 years to replace the 4 1sts we lose.

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Then it's no deal from Nashville. Wilson=Raymond+Schroeder, Weber=Weiss+Edler (UFA in a year).

Maybe switch it to your 1st instead?
A first? I like it!

Edler, Raymond, a first and Luongo for Weber.

Weiss for Wilson and Luongo.


Weber and Wilson for Raymond, Weiss, Edler and Van's first.

And as for you Top 6 Spaling, Bieksa++ eh? What kind of ++?

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....
We can't afford to keep Edler if we are adding Weber. Bieksa, Hamhuis, and Garrison all have NTC's and aren't going anywhere. It'd be ideal to move Edler for offensive help and be able to get Weber by another mean, but the deal you proposed seems to make a lot of sense for all involved. It's a fair trade, rather than teams trying some predatory tactics to poach Weber.

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Nah, we'll just sign him when he walks for nothing next season.
*sigh*

Short version: go read the weber thread.

Long version: Weber is an RFA. Any team can talk to him now, figure out if will sign long-term, then trade for him. Weber will almost assuredly sign a huge deal this off-season, it's just a question of Nashville or somewhere else.

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....
Omg a thousand times this. You said it, no take backs.

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[QUOTE=y2kcanucks;52220971]I would accept Gardiner straight up, or Luongo/Raymond for Lupul/2.[/QUOTE]

I honestly don't think it gets to this point, but again, if my arm is being twisted the bolded gets my choice.

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A first? I like it!

Edler, Raymond, a first and Luongo for Weber.

Weiss for Wilson and Luongo.


Weber and Wilson for Raymond, Weiss, Edler and Van's first.

And as for you Top 6 Spaling, Bieksa++ eh? What kind of ++?
I'd much prefer Edler. I think the original deal is fair for all involved. Florida gets Lu and a very, very good NHL ready propsect, Nashville gets a top pairing D and a new top line center, and Vancouver gets the best D man in the game.

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if burke wont trade Gards for nash why the **** would he trade it for luongo
I doubt he would, but Lui holds more value to your team than Nash, as he would do more for you, IE get you into the playoffs.

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It's semantics really as no one believed that Gillis would run with both goalies. Just like no one believes Burke will run with Scrivens and Reimer.
I don't know, I actually think Burke is stubborn enough to do it. I think it would be stupid but he is very stubborn.

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Sure you can get him without Edler...give us a Sedin+, Kesler+, or Bieksa++.....
What about my earlier proposal of

TO
Lui

Nash
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TO 1st
Edler
Raymond or Booth

Van
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*sigh*

Short version: go read the weber thread.

Long version: Weber is an RFA. Any team can talk to him now, figure out if will sign long-term, then trade for him. Weber will almost assuredly sign a huge deal this off-season, it's just a question of Nashville or somewhere else.
Unless Weber is traded he will only sign a 1yr deal ensuring UFA status next offseason. Weber will not sign a long term deal in NSH. He would have done that already and the fact that he was waiting for Suter to make his decision should prove that. Believing anything else is just wishful thinking on NSH's part.

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