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Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf - next contracts

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10-16-2012, 05:03 PM
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Parise wanted to go home to his family.And recruited his buddy Suter. Pittsburgh and Philly were the best teams in the sweepstakes. I think Getzlaf resigns in Anaheim and Perry signs in either Anaheim,Pittsburgh,Philadelphia or Vancouver.
My thoughts as well.

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10-16-2012, 05:05 PM
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5 year max contracts in the new CBA. Both will be Ducks. Unless someone is paying 9 mil a year each then there is no way they leave.
If he has rebounds with an 80 point season, I would be perfectly okay making Getzlaf the highest paid center in the league.

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10-16-2012, 06:02 PM
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If he has rebounds with an 80 point season, I would be perfectly okay making Getzlaf the highest paid center in the league.
Doubt anyone even gets a chance at getzlaf. I'm guessing he signs in training camp.

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10-16-2012, 06:04 PM
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If the new deal gets signed this year I have a feeling the Ducks are not going to waste any time in getting these two locked up. I think the lockout is the main reason both sides haven't really done anything. Getzlaf I'm sure will stay in Anaheim. I believe Perry will as well. Perry signing in Toronto will not happen for the fact there is too much chaos for a player to go through each season.


It is truly mind numbing why this keeps being brought up. For starters, no one suggested for sure Perry will sign in Toronto. But Perry himself proves you wrong by spending his off seasons here in Ontario, is noticed frequently, and participates in community work. If it was as bad as you suggest it is in Toronto, Perry wouldnt spend as much time here as he doesn, let alone, make himself transparent by doing as much as he does in the communities.

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10-16-2012, 06:28 PM
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Who doesn't have bad blood with Perry in the Western Conference? If he made it to FA, I'm sure Nashville would offer him a contract.
Pretty much.

I see the signings of Suter and Parise a bit like Kariya and Selanne in Colorado. You have two friends that are both chasing their first cup. In that respect it's a bit different from Getzlaf and Perry's situation.

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10-16-2012, 07:38 PM
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But Perry himself proves you wrong by spending his off seasons here in Ontario, is noticed frequently, and participates in community work. If it was as bad as you suggest it is in Toronto, Perry wouldnt spend as much time here as he doesn, let alone, make himself transparent by doing as much as he does in the communities.
That doesn't really prove anything wrong. Just because I enjoy a cold winter for months doesn't mean I'd be fine with moving somewhere where I can have that all year. It's a reasonable thought that he only likes to deal with it for a certain while, knowing that he didn't and will not have to put up with it to the same degree back in Anaheim. I'm trying to not speak in absolute terms, as there isn't going to be many people that really know how he feels about it. He's a very private person about these things - which is one of the indications that would speak against him enjoying it enough to put himself there full-time.

I think it's very fair to say that the Toronto market does scare off a fair amount of (especially star) players, who just aren't the type that can or want to deal with it. It isn't impossible, obviously, but it takes a certain mindset. I don't really think his off-season visits back home and him not shying away from the public in that span outweigh the impression Perry has left in Anaheim for a good while. I don't think it's unfair for Leafs fans to believe in a bit of a chance, though.

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If he has rebounds with an 80 point season, I would be perfectly okay making Getzlaf the highest paid center in the league.
Yeah he resigns in Anaheim.He is not on the elite center level.But he is very good.

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10-17-2012, 01:55 AM
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Yeah he resigns in Anaheim.He is not on the elite center level.But he is very good.
Not this argument again...

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10-17-2012, 02:16 AM
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Doubt anyone even gets a chance at getzlaf. I'm guessing he signs in training camp.
Hes gonna sign moment a new CBA is put in place.

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10-17-2012, 02:18 AM
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Yeah he resigns in Anaheim.He is not on the elite center level.But he is very good.
Excuse me?

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Yeah he resigns in Anaheim.He is not on the elite center level.But he is very good.
LOL. Let me guess...you've NEVER watched a Duck game? Get out of your shell. He's pretty much as good as they come other than the obvious Malkin, Crosby, Toews, etc.

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He's pretty much as good as they come other than the obvious Malkin, Crosby, Toews, etc.
Isn't that basically what he said?

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Isn't that basically what he said?
Depends on your definition of "Elite". I consider elite more than the top 3 centers. I think it's pretty obvious that Getzlaf is an elite center in the NHL.

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Depends on your definition of "Elite". I consider elite more than the top 3 centers. I think it's pretty obvious that Getzlaf is an elite center in the NHL.
I don't want to do this but...

Crosby
Malkin
Stamkos
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(Giroux/Tavares if they repeat)

Are all probably better. I'd define him as really good, but not elite. But it does depend on your definition. My own definition is top 5 at their position.

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10-17-2012, 03:03 AM
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I don't want to do this but...

Crosby
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Stamkos
Datsyuk
Sedin
Toews
Spezza
(Giroux/Tavares if they repeat)

Are all probably better. I'd define him as really good, but not elite. But it does depend on your definition. My own definition is top 5 at their position.
Getzlaf is just as good as Toews. Like, they are directly comparable.

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Getzlaf is just as good as Toews. Like, they are directly comparable.
AngelDuck said it first. I think Toews and Getzlaf are a lot closer than people think, though.

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AngelDuck said it first. I think Toews and Getzlaf are a lot closer than people think, though.
He's a player I see undervalued a lot, like the rest of the ducks squad are.

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Getzlaf is just as good as Toews. Like, they are directly comparable.
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AngelDuck said it first. I think Toews and Getzlaf are a lot closer than people think, though.
Except Getzlaf has a 90+ point season under his belt at is more physical.

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It is honestly amazing what one season will do for a players' reputation.

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He's a player I see undervalued a lot, like the rest of the ducks squad are.
People are fully aware of Perry,Getzlaf,Selanne,Ryan etc.

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People are fully aware of Perry,Getzlaf,Selanne,Ryan etc.
I mainly agree in regards to Perry and Ryan. Regarding Getzlaf, HF's classic mid- to long-term memory loss is in rather full effect, if you look at which centers were valued higher than him a year ago and how many are now by many.

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I mainly agree in regards to Perry and Ryan. Regarding Getzlaf, HF's classic mid- to long-term memory loss is in rather full effect, if you look at which centers were valued higher than him a year ago and how many are now by many.
I've been stating for years that Getzlaf is, and will be for a long time, a top 5 center in the NHL. Regardless of stats, that's what I believe. If he ever becomes a Leaf...I don't even know what I'd do.

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If they ever become leafs their value would drop to overrated according to leaf haters
I don't really see where Perry fits on the Leafs anyway. Burke won't move Kessel out of the 1st line and I doubt Perry would sign a contract with a team that would play him on the 2nd line. And no point in playing him out of position.

Getzlaf would be a good fit for obvious reasons.

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I don't really see where Perry fits on the Leafs anyway. Burke won't move Kessel out of the 1st line and I doubt Perry would sign a contract with a team that would play him on the 2nd line. And no point in playing him out of position.

Getzlaf would be a good fit for obvious reasons.
if getzlaf and perry wanted to come to toronto then i dont think it would make a difference if kessel was on the second line. if malkin can play on the second line then so can kessel. its not a reflection of the player its a reflection of depth.


jvr getzlaf perry
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if getzlaf and perry wanted to come to toronto then i dont think it would make a difference if kessel was on the second line. if malkin can play on the second line then so can kessel. its not a reflection of the player its a reflection of depth.


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It would be a reflection of Burke, who wouldn't move a guy he payed the moon for to the second line.

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