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01-07-2013, 09:31 PM
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With Visnovsky ****ing over the Isles, Bergy needs to be talking with Snow non-stop because we could get them to overpay for a Weber or a Kaberle. Their defence is paper thin:

MacDonald-Hamonic
Streit-Carkner (LOL)
...and no one else aside from a bunch of kids.
Hamonic is coming back from a concussion. He just skated 2 days ago..not sure if he's healthy enough to start the season.

Travis Hamonic has been out of action since Dec. 2 because of a concussion, but he is on the mend.

Impacts: He began feeling better last week and could resume skating Monday or Tuesday. Hamonic has posted nine points and 29 penalty minutes in 19 games with Bridgeport in the AHL this season. When he's cleared to resume playing he will return to the lineup of the New York Islanders.

Hamonic (concussion) is expected to resume skating Monday, New York Newsday reports.

Spin: Hamonic has been out since December 2 with the concussion. If Hamonic's session checks out without any incidents Monday, he should be available if training camps open up at some point next week.

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01-07-2013, 09:45 PM
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So this new CBA lets you trade guys and eat up to half their salary.

So now we can do things like Kaberle to PHX for a 2nd rounder + we eat half his salary.

Or Gionta to someone for a 1st rounder and we eat half.

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01-08-2013, 08:26 AM
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Really. Those rumours from September? Okay then. Have you heard the rumours that Guy Lafleur might sign with the Quebec Nordiques?

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01-08-2013, 08:50 AM
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Im just interested in knowing what Logan Couture Means to the Habs and what we'd have to send back.

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01-08-2013, 09:07 AM
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Kaberle for Grabner ? Would that be a fair deal ?

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01-08-2013, 01:45 PM
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Kaberle for Grabner ? Would that be a fair deal ?
Not really, Grabner is injured.

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Not really, Grabner is injured.
Injured Grabner >> Kaberle in trade value.

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01-08-2013, 06:38 PM
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Can Dallas pay Jamie Benn? Do they have enough money? We should be on this case.

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Can Dallas pay Jamie Benn? Do they have enough money? We should be on this case.
A Subban- Benn swap would be awesome.

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01-08-2013, 08:01 PM
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Can Dallas pay Jamie Benn? Do they have enough money? We should be on this case.
Joe N is one of the most reckless and thoughtless GMs in the league but not even he would trade his only centre.

I can't believe he traded Ribeiro when the stars have **** for centre depth.

I hope Benn doesn't sign or hold's out - would be fun to see.

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Joe N is one of the most reckless and thoughtless GMs in the league but not even he would trade his only centre.

I can't believe he traded Ribeiro when the stars have **** for centre depth.

I hope Benn doesn't sign or hold's out - would be fun to see.
They have Roy.

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01-08-2013, 08:22 PM
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A Subban- Benn swap would be awesome.
Not really. Subban has more value and upside.

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01-08-2013, 08:24 PM
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Injured Grabner >> Kaberle in trade value.
It's not about trade value it's about winning hockey games.

If Kaberle plays to potential he will have excekllent value in 10 weeks.

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01-08-2013, 08:50 PM
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Subban Bourque for Benn Goligoski anytime

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01-08-2013, 08:55 PM
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Subban Bourque for Benn Goligoski anytime
Yeah, Stars fans would probably say no

For a minor trade with Dallas, how about getting Alex Chiasson? Some big right wing that doesn't seem to be doing anything worthwhile in the AHL atm. We don't really have big right wing prospects now do we?

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01-08-2013, 08:56 PM
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Benn for Subban? Definitely!

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01-09-2013, 12:48 AM
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Benn-Subban only works, from a Habs POV, if one is convinced that Subban isn't really a very good all-around/minute eating dman who can support the offense dynamically.

as good as Benn is/will be, Subban is arguably better right now, and there is NO DOUBT that a premier top-pairing shut down dman with puck skills is of more value than a large bodied-scoring winger with only decent offensive production.



NHL 80 23 15 38
NHL 61 22 16 38
NHL 82 27 25 52


NHL 82 22 19 41
NHL 69 22 34 56
NHL 71 26 37 63



guess which one is Benn's statline, and which one is Higgins! Benn has a LONG way to go before establishing himself as a superior asset to a minute eating, point producing, charasmatic leader like subban.

interesting stat that may only interest me:

Of the 17 Dmen who had more TOI/game than Subban, only 4 others did not make the playoffs, and all 4 had negative plus/minus... none less than -10. Subban was a +9!!!

yeah yeah, i know, +/- is a very misleading stat...but go further and you see that of the 90 dmen who averaged more than 20min/game, only 7-8 are positive in the +/-

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01-09-2013, 12:55 AM
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Never choose a 1st line winger over a 1st pairing dman.

Subban > Benn

I might consider Subban for Benn, a 1st, and a 2nd.

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01-09-2013, 12:57 AM
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Benn is a center, 63pts in 71gp is better than any forward we had last season.

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01-09-2013, 02:05 AM
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If Sub ban was the player a lot of people think he is, I.e. a top pairing off D with upside, trade him for Benn, no problem. Benn has been carrying his team since Richards left and is really more a C than LW (they used OTT at C cause he's a faceoff ace).

However, I think, and can provide supporting documentation to back up said belief, that Subban is one of the top 15-20 defenders in the game right now and likely to rise thus irreplaceable. So no dice.

The really interesting RFA is O'Reilly in Col. Fantastic young 2 way centre.

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01-09-2013, 08:54 AM
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I would ask something like Subban for Benn + Oleksiak

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Kaberle for Grabner ? Would that be a fair deal ?
Grabner: 25 yr old, 54 goals over the last 2 season, due $2m this season.

Kaberle: 34 yrs old,struggling D the last 2 yrs, due $4.2m


You've confused Snow with MM.

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Benn for Subban? Definitely!
Bad trade value wise for the Habs. Benn is a good palyer but Subban has Norris trophy/perennial all-star potential.

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It's not about trade value it's about winning hockey games.

If Kaberle plays to potential he will have excekllent value in 10 weeks.
Then shop Kaberle to some team that wants him in 10 weeks.

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Grabner: 25 yr old, 54 goals over the last 2 season, due $2m this season.

Kaberle: 34 yrs old,struggling D the last 2 yrs, due $4.2m


You've confused Snow with MM.
Not really. A terrible offer like that happens quite frequently in here. People think it's fair because any player we have is awesome.

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