HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Vancouver - Washington

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-09-2012, 12:43 AM
  #1
KonaRider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
Vancouver - Washington

To Washington:
Alex Edler
Mason Raymond
Conditional 2nd


To Vancouver:
Mike Green


At all enticing from Washingtons POV?

KonaRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:47 AM
  #2
kongt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 77
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaRider View Post
To Washington:
Alex Edler
Mason Raymond
Conditional 2nd


To Vancouver:
Mike Green


At all enticing from Washingtons POV?
I feel Edler is worth more than Mike Green as of this moment right now. Discuss

kongt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:51 AM
  #3
KonaRider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kongt View Post
I feel Edler is worth more than Mike Green as of this moment right now. Discuss
He might be, but the fact that Edler is UFA next summer is a big warning flag to his trade value.

KonaRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:51 AM
  #4
NeilYoung
Registered User
 
NeilYoung's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,655
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kongt View Post
I feel Edler is worth more than Mike Green as of this moment right now. Discuss
Obviously.... When you play only half of the past two seasons and on top of that getting back into the groove of things for the half the games you do play, no players going to havemuchvalue after that

NeilYoung is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:52 AM
  #5
kthsn
Registered User
 
kthsn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 2,728
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kongt View Post
I feel Edler is worth more than Mike Green as of this moment right now. Discuss
Me too.

Green has to have a healthy season first.

Edler's value was a lot lower when he had the major surgery but he came back and played 82 games and put up 49 points.

kthsn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:53 AM
  #6
Taelin
Resident Hipster
 
Taelin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,209
vCash: 500
Should be Green + for Edler, not the other way around.

Taelin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:53 AM
  #7
JawandaPuck
Moderator
Lost Art of Dynasty
 
JawandaPuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Vancouver BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,304
vCash: 500
If the intention of this is to subsequently send Mike Green+ to NSH for Shea Weber, it won't work IMO. Despite being an RFA, Green will not likely re-sign with NSH for the same reasons Weber will not likely re-sign there.

__________________
Follow JawandaPuck on Twitter and Blogspot - all revenue from Google Ads is donated to the Canucks for Kids Fund (CFKF) in support of the Canucks Autism Network (CAN).
JawandaPuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:54 AM
  #8
kongt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 77
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaRider View Post
He might be, but the fact that Edler is UFA next summer is a big warning flag to his trade value.
Same can be said about Green, no?

kongt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:55 AM
  #9
Vankiller Whale
And so it begins
 
Vankiller Whale's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 24,746
vCash: 500
I think I'd be okay with that. I don't really see the need for this. It seems like a high-risk high-reward from our point of view.

Maybe if the 2nd were conditional both ways- If Green plays more than 65 games, we give Washington a 2nd, if not, they give us a 2nd.

Something like that. Btw how physical is Green?

Vankiller Whale is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 12:58 AM
  #10
Straelofe
Om nom nom
 
Straelofe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 227
vCash: 500
Absolutely no reason for the Canucks to do this. If Weber isn't coming back, Edler's not leaving.

Straelofe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:02 AM
  #11
KonaRider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
The purpose is to get Vancouver an actual powerplay QB. Our powerplay was absolute crap in the playoffs and Green is a fantastic puck mover, much better than Edler.

The success he would have with the Sedin's would be extraordinary. And with the signing of Garrison, if he is as defensive as people say, they could make a very good pair.

KonaRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:04 AM
  #12
KonaRider
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 189
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by kongt View Post
Same can be said about Green, no?
I'm working under the assumption Green is signed longer term, not just a 1 year deal.

KonaRider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:05 AM
  #13
CASUAL KEV
Jack Adams™
 
CASUAL KEV's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sk, Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,873
vCash: 500
lol pass from the Canucks

CASUAL KEV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:06 AM
  #14
kongt
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 77
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaRider View Post
I'm working under the assumption Green is signed longer term, not just a 1 year deal.
Man you are baffling me. What makes you think that Edler, who is developed by the Canucks, won't be resigned but someone from another organization would sign with you long term...

If it's just for the purpose of discussion, fine...


Last edited by kongt: 07-09-2012 at 01:12 AM.
kongt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:15 AM
  #15
vaseline stampede
Rookie User
 
vaseline stampede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Trojan Horse
Posts: 52
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taelin View Post
Should be Green + for Edler, not the other way around.
Edler is a UFA who has never achieved the personal achievements of Green and never will.

vaseline stampede is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:19 AM
  #16
Straelofe
Om nom nom
 
Straelofe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Country: Canada
Posts: 227
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaseline stampede View Post
Edler is a UFA who has never achieved the personal achievements of Green and never will.
Then keep the all mighty Green.


Straelofe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:20 AM
  #17
Vankiller Whale
And so it begins
 
Vankiller Whale's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Toronto
Country: Canada
Posts: 24,746
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by vaseline stampede View Post
Edler is a UFA who has never achieved the personal achievements of Green and never will.
There's still a good chance Edler outperforms him from his season onwards.
As I said, Mike Green would be high-risk, high return. It all depends how much faith people have that he can make a comeback. Personally I think he will, but after some thought I don't think the difference between Edler and a prime Green is worth the risk.

Vankiller Whale is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:20 AM
  #18
Royal Canuck
Go Canucks Go!
 
Royal Canuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Victoria, BC
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,850
vCash: 500
Green is too injury prone and it's too risky for us. pass.

__________________

Twitter |HFBoards Contact | Blog
PSN - TBennz
"You're never a loser until you quit trying. " - Mike Ditka
Royal Canuck is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:30 AM
  #19
Avs44
Registered User
 
Avs44's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Country: United States
Posts: 7,776
vCash: 500
I see absolutely no reason for Vancouver to even consider this. As a fan of neither team, I would pretty easily take Edler over Green. If anyone is adding it should be WSH.

Avs44 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:35 AM
  #20
vaseline stampede
Rookie User
 
vaseline stampede's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Trojan Horse
Posts: 52
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schneids View Post
Then keep the all mighty Green.

OK? Why are you mad? I don't follow either team and the OP is a nuck fan.

vaseline stampede is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 01:50 AM
  #21
Winroba
Keep Calm, Kassi On
 
Winroba's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 10,425
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by KonaRider View Post
The purpose is to get Vancouver an actual powerplay QB. Our powerplay was absolute crap in the playoffs and Green is a fantastic puck mover, much better than Edler.

The success he would have with the Sedin's would be extraordinary. And with the signing of Garrison, if he is as defensive as people say, they could make a very good pair.
Only problem is that it's tough to be a PMD when you aren't on the ice due to injury

Winroba is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 02:03 AM
  #22
DingoAteMyBaby
Registered User
 
DingoAteMyBaby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,372
vCash: 500
No way.

DingoAteMyBaby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 02:12 AM
  #23
Komarov77
Registered User
 
Komarov77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Country: Finland
Posts: 1,137
vCash: 500
Edler>Green

Lock.

Komarov77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 02:16 AM
  #24
ProstheticConscience
Kunst
 
ProstheticConscience's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Canuck Nation
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,738
vCash: 500
Thanks, no. Edler's brutal playoffs aside, he's still our best dman, and I'd need to know Green can actually come back to be the offensive force he was before I'd even consider a straight-up swap. The fact we'd be getting rid of Raymond as well makes it tempting, but no go.

ProstheticConscience is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-09-2012, 02:20 AM
  #25
HankieDankie
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Vancouver
Posts: 632
vCash: 500
Taking into account Green's injuries, plus Edler's flashes of absolutely dominant play both physically and skill wise, I'd much rather keep Edler.

Beast mode Edler is what I live for.

HankieDankie is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:15 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.