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07-11-2012, 12:50 AM
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Any rumors on potential signings? What happened to us signing semin?
To sum up the day ....

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To sum up the day ....
i can't make out the first name on the upside-down poster behind Buscemi but the second guy Lloyd Glenn was the pianist on T-Bone Walker's Stormy Monday




edit: the second dude is blues guitarist Lowell Fulson - who wrote the song Tramp which was made famous in duet version by Otis Redding and Carla Thomas.



that i went through this effort should tell you how boring free agency has been.

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No. Howson wants too much, and the contract itself is not something I'd want to take on for a guy who isn't likely to develop any chemistry with Sid. Granted, the Olympics is a small sample size, but add in that we really don't need another lefty.
We have 2 great centers to try him with. I'm sure that he'd work out with one of them. Neal would play with the other. And would have no issues taking on the contract. We have the cap space, and with have the contracts we could ship out if needed (assuming that was an issue).

However Howson wants too much, so I don't see it happening. Somehow he will need to re-adjust his asking price. All that Nash needs to do is to refuse to play until he's traded. Kind of a douch move, however Howson's had lots of time to make a trade. At this point I'd probably do the same if I was him and wanted out.

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i can't make out the first name on the upside-down poster behind Buscemi but the second guy Lloyd Glenn was the pianist on T-Bone Walker's Stormy Monday




edit: the second dude is blues guitarist Lowell Fulson - who wrote the song Tramp which was made famous in duet version by Otis Redding and Carla Thomas.



that i went through this effort should tell you how boring free agency has been.
Nice ...
Although this now cements the mental picture I have of you as Les Claypool in my head

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Did anyone else find that video on TSN "Who’s Better?
The TH panel debates who is better? Penguins sniper James Neal or Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews." Really weird?

Why are these two players being compared? Isn't it obvious at this point?

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I agree with others about Nash. I'd really have no problem bringing him in. I know him and Sid didn't have much chemistry at the olympics, but I think he's a great forward who could bring alot to the team. While I'd like to have him, there are many other teams who'll offer much more for him than I'd be willing to.

IMO, the problem with Nash/Ryan is that the other team is looking for forwards in return. We can't do that. Not moving anyone from our roster (TK/Dupuis aren't top line guys they're looking for).

As much as people worry, the team we have right now will get us through the regular season just fine. i also believe we'll be fine in the playoffs with the addition of a defensive d-man (or two).

I don't think it'll take us much to win another cup. We have a great core, and just need to shore up the D at the deadline to move on.

I agree that Sid took a discount and we should find him a winger, but no use overpaying (whether trade or signing) to get that winger.

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Did anyone else find that video on TSN "Who’s Better?
The TH panel debates who is better? Penguins sniper James Neal or Blackhawks captain Jonathan Toews." Really weird?

Why are these two players being compared? Isn't it obvious at this point?
So whats the answer? Ones an elite defensive #1 center. The other is a 40g winger.

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So whats the answer? Ones an elite defensive #1 center. The other is a 40g winger.
The honest answer is that it's the dumbest comparison in the world. Neal is a really good winger, but JT is the face of Chicago. Even the biggest Pens homer can't sit here and say Neal is better.

The comparison makes zero sense.

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Nice ...
Although this now cements the mental picture I have of you as Les Claypool in my head
the guy who Metallica turned down because he was "too talented." i can live with that. i did physically turn my laptop upside-down to get a look.

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The honest answer is that it's the dumbest comparison in the world. Neal is a really good winger, but JT is the face of Chicago. Even the biggest Pens homer can't sit here and say Neal is better.

The comparison makes zero sense.
Who is better? Crosby or Penner? the world needs to know!

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I can't recall many times that the Pens were rumoured to be interested in any player they traded for. That's just me personally of course...
Good point here, IMO...

We are all probably way off, and I trust that Shero will bring in someone, probably someone most would not expect.

NO WAY -- NO WAY, IMO, do the Pens get rid of Staal, get Crosby to give a huge "hometown discount," take a look at the fact that they sit right in the middle of a window of time where they have a legitimate shot at another Cup or three, and then conclude that it makes sense to "sit" on that cap space and NOT pull a deal for some more offensive talent...

That would make NO sense, to me. I agree with other posters who have said that this team -- as it currently exists -- has plenty of talent to make the playoffs and perhaps win a round or two. As a GM, with a team talented enough to make at least a short playoff run, and sitting on a boatload of cap space, and with the two best centers in the world on your team, in their primes, it seems to me to be borderline NEGLIGENT to not use that cap space to at least TRY and improve the team's Cup chances to the greatest degree possible. YES, you could do the "improve the team" thing by pursuing defensemen, but -- given that it's blatantly obvious that we lack ANYTHING (aside from Bennett) in our system that appears at this time to be a legitimate top 6 forward prospect while at the same time being chock full of talented defensive prospects, not spending at least some of that cap space on significant offensive (wing) talent, THIS season...I just don't see it happening. So, to me, it is almost a given that we spend some of that cap space, NO LATER THAN at the trade deadline, AND that we do so -- at least PARTIALLY -- on the wing. I will trust Shero on this...


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Just an aside, but why do some people feel compelled to put their name at the end of every post?

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Good point here, IMO...

We are all probably way off, and I trust that Shero will bring in someone, probably someone most would not expect.

NO WAY -- NO WAY, IMO, do the Pens get rid of Staal, get Crosby to give a huge "hometown discount," take a look at the fact that they sit right in the middle of a window of time where they have a legitimate shot at another Cup or three, and then conclude that it makes sense to "sit" on that cap space and NOT pull a deal for some more offensive talent...

That would make NO sense, to me. I agree with other posters who have said that this team -- as it currently exists -- has plenty of talent to make the playoffs and perhaps win a round or two. As a GM, with a team talented enough to make at least a short playoff run, and sitting on a boatload of cap space, and with the two best centers in the world on your team, in their primes, it seems to me to be borderline NEGLIGENT to not use that cap space to at least TRY and improve the team's Cup chances to the greatest degree possible. YES, you could do the "improve the team" thing by pursuing defensemen, but -- given that it's blatantly obvious that we lack ANYTHING (aside from Bennett) in our system that appears at this time to be a legitimate top 6 forward prospect while at the same time being chock full of talented defensive prospects, not spending at least some of that cap space on significant offensive (wing) talent, THIS season...I just don't see it happening. So, to me, it is almost a given that we spend some of that cap space, NO LATER THAN at the trade deadline, AND that we do so -- at least PARTIALLY -- on the wing. I will trust Shero on this...


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I would have thought the same way before FA. We all got hyped up that Parise is coming to town and there's no way a conservative GM like Shero makes those huge moves if he didn't already know something about Parise. It didn't turn out well.

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Just an aside, but why do some people feel compelled to put their name at the end of every post?
Yeah that annoys me

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REALLY, guys? Simply habit; I have always signed every post I make on any of the forums. Sorry if it's not "apropos" here...

Just trying to have some hockey discussion, is all.

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lol....it doesn't bother me at all. Nothing's wrong with signed on every post.

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Guess I got in the habit because of the thought that if you can't "put your name" on something you write, and "own" it, then you ought not be writing it. NOT referring to forums, per se -- but, to me it's like someone tossing out a "rumor" and then everyone asking for a "link and source." The "name" of the source is associated with a "reputation," which then either lends, or diminishes, the credibility of the information.

ANYWAY...enough "drama." Don't want to turn this into something sounding like a bunch of teenage girls!

By the way, cobraZ, I, too, was surprised by the Shero/Parise thing, since as the situation was in progress, it sure did look like the Crosby signing, and the trade of Staal, was a part of a plan to bring in Parise; maybe that was an incorrect assumption, but still -- there is to some degree the appearance that there was a plan, and it "blew up," so to speak...

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Did anyone else find that video on TSN "Who’s Better?
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Why are these two players being compared? Isn't it obvious at this point?
Very strange on their behalf. Can't work out why they would do that, but I guess that show isn't exactly a meeting of hockey's minds...

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I hope something happens soon because this is getting boring.

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Do you guys really want Nash?
Yes, we want Rick Nash. Absolutely.

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Not for the asking price no. Like I said, I have heard nothing at all about the Pens being interested. With Doan and Semin you heard Bylsma confirm interest, Semin's agent said the same, and a lot of dubious sources. Zip about Nash though.
But we might not want him enough to give up what he'll cost in assets.

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**** Rick Nash in his ******* with a 10 foot pole until he ****s blood.
Any other reason to say we don't want Nash is wrong. He would be our best winger. Sure he's a high cap hit, but he's also one of the few wingers that could carry the load on his line if we have an injury to Sid or Geno.


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Good point here, IMO...

We are all probably way off, and I trust that Shero will bring in someone, probably someone most would not expect.

NO WAY -- NO WAY, IMO, do the Pens get rid of Staal, get Crosby to give a huge "hometown discount," take a look at the fact that they sit right in the middle of a window of time where they have a legitimate shot at another Cup or three, and then conclude that it makes sense to "sit" on that cap space and NOT pull a deal for some more offensive talent...

That would make NO sense, to me. I agree with other posters who have said that this team -- as it currently exists -- has plenty of talent to make the playoffs and perhaps win a round or two. As a GM, with a team talented enough to make at least a short playoff run, and sitting on a boatload of cap space, and with the two best centers in the world on your team, in their primes, it seems to me to be borderline NEGLIGENT to not use that cap space to at least TRY and improve the team's Cup chances to the greatest degree possible. YES, you could do the "improve the team" thing by pursuing defensemen, but -- given that it's blatantly obvious that we lack ANYTHING (aside from Bennett) in our system that appears at this time to be a legitimate top 6 forward prospect while at the same time being chock full of talented defensive prospects, not spending at least some of that cap space on significant offensive (wing) talent, THIS season...I just don't see it happening. So, to me, it is almost a given that we spend some of that cap space, NO LATER THAN at the trade deadline, AND that we do so -- at least PARTIALLY -- on the wing. I will trust Shero on this...


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