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07-11-2012, 08:03 PM
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Andersen signed to 2 year deal

so much goalie depth!! lolz
http://ducks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=637721

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So much for the Canes fans saying he won't sign with us. Lololol

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After the whole Shultz debacle, I feel both empathetic towards Canes fans and slightly redeemed, in a universal balancing sort of way. Glad he signed with us, hope he's a good one in the future.

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Does anyone know where he will be playing next year?

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07-11-2012, 10:54 PM
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So much for the Canes fans saying he won't sign with us. Lololol
Did they?

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One was a former 7th round pick who likely never gets a shot at their club and greatly outperformed his original draft status. The other was a 2nd round pick and world class talent that was given every opportunity to step in from day 1.

Hugely different situations if you ask me however still unfortunate.

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Both were players who refused to play for the team that drafted them. It's bush league to not sympathize with Carolina.

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Yeah definitely feel for them on that part.

Excited to see how he does this upcoming season.

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Remember when the Ducks drafted Tim Brent after he re-entered the draft. If Carolina really wanted him, they would had redrafted him. Ducks had no chance to keep Schultz so I'd say they were different circumstances.

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Ducks are pretty good at finding goalies out of Europe. If Swedish fans aren't BSing us, Andersen could give Fasth a run for his money at training camp.

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Ducks are pretty good at finding goalies out of Europe. If Swedish fans aren't BSing us, Andersen could give Fasth a run for his money at training camp.
Ownership won't pay Fasth $1M to play in the AHL. I would think Andersen will be going back to Sweden and burning off a year of his ELC there just like Vatanen did last year in Finland.

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Ownership won't pay Fasth $1M to play in the AHL. I would think Andersen will be going back to Sweden and burning off a year of his ELC there just like Vatanen did last year in Finland.
Playing in there already burns a year off their ELC?

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Nice signing! He will take the back up spot before christmas and fasth will be heading back to sweden.

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Playing in there already burns a year off their ELC?
ELCs don't kick in until the player is in the AHL or NHL. If he returns to Sweden for a year, he only receives his signing bonus.

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ELCs don't kick in until the player is in the AHL or NHL. If he returns to Sweden for a year, he only receives his signing bonus.
Nice!
So we have at least 2 seasons of him in our system. I`m excited!

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ELCs don't kick in until the player is in the AHL or NHL. If he returns to Sweden for a year, he only receives his signing bonus.
According to capgeek that's not true as Vatanen burned off the first year of his ELC in Finland last year.

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According to capgeek that's not true as Vatanen burned off the first year of his ELC in Finland last year.
If I understand correctly you are only allowed to extend the ELC for up to 2 years of being drafted I believe. So being this was his third year naturally one year will run off.

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Players younger than 25 as of Sept. 15 in the calendar year their first NHL contract is signed are subject to the terms of Article 9 of the CBA and must sign an entry-level contract (ELC). This means the amount of salary and team-paid performance bonuses is capped, depending on his draft year or the year he signs. The length of the ELC is also specified based on the player's age.

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18-21 3 years
22-23 2 years
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If I understand correctly you are only allowed to extend the ELC for up to 2 years of being drafted I believe. So being this was his third year naturally one year will run off.



^per capgeek
Yeah I did some more digging and found that if the player is over 20, the contract can't slide.

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Depending on the contract's structure, the player's cap hit can be affected either by an increase or a decrease. Players who sign at age 18 can have their contract extended (or "slide") two seasons.
So if he goes back to Sweden it burns a year of his ELC. It will be interesting to see what happens seeing as he refused to sign in Carolina because he didn't want to play in the AHL. We certainly don't have a shortage of goalies with JDD & Bobkov likely taking the 2 AHL spots and Cousineau being the 5th guy.

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07-13-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'm far from a regular here, but he's already left Frolunda (you can look it up on the team's website). I doubt he'll be going back there. Interesting perspective on Andersen is that many in Sweden believe his backup, Magnus Hellberg (Nashville prospect) was a better goalie (a headscratcher, I know).

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I'm far from a regular here, but he's already left Frolunda (you can look it up on the team's website). I doubt he'll be going back there. Interesting perspective on Andersen is that many in Sweden believe his backup, Magnus Hellberg (Nashville prospect) was a better goalie (a headscratcher, I know).
Interesting. I believe people thought that about Rinne when he Niklas Backstrom's backup.

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So if it turns out Andersen > Fasth, we could end up playing two goalies with one-way contracts in the minors...

By the way, here is the news from Frölundas site.

The headline says he has left the club and exercised his NHL-clause to have a shot with us.

"This opportunity for me to play in the NHL is a shot I have to take."


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Ownership won't pay Fasth $1M to play in the AHL. I would think Andersen will be going back to Sweden and burning off a year of his ELC there just like Vatanen did last year in Finland.
CapGeek says Andersen has a cap hit of $1,775,000, whereas Fasth's is only $1,000,000. Could we be seeing Andersen backing up Hiller to start this season? I can't see ownership burying $1,775,000 in the minors.

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CapGeek says Andersen has a cap hit of $1,775,000, whereas Fasth's is only $1,000,000. Could we be seeing Andersen backing up Hiller to start this season? I can't see ownership burying $1,775,000 in the minors.
Andersen is on 2-way contract. Fasth is 1-way. Also 850k of Andersen's cap hit is bonuses which he may or may not get (they actually rarely earn them).

Fasth will be on the NHL team or traded.

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