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12-30-2012, 12:44 PM
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http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412474

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The league and players also spent most of Saturday in conference calls and discussions regarding the 288-page document that the NHL presented on Thursday.

According to TSN's Aaron Ward, lawyers and financial staff representing both sides met face-to-face today. They are still in the review and clarification stage.
NHLPA negotiating committee standing by to head to NYC when negotiating session scheduled.

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reporterchris 12:32pm via UberSocial for BlackBerry The NHL is waiting to hear back from NHLPA on the status of talks. There's still a chance they resume tonight.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/i...-signs-of-life

Signs of life from NHL infrastructure
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For instance, from the time the NHL made a proposal in November that would have seen a full 82-game schedule played, the league’s scheduling guru Steve Hatze Petros has been constantly working on truncated schedules based on the moving target of a potential start date.
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Regardless of when a season might start, a source told ESPN.com Sunday that none of the scheduling models at this stage involve games outside of the conferences. During the 48-game lockout-shortened 1995 season, teams likewise played only teams in their conference.

As for on-ice officials, who are among the forgotten casualties of this lockout given that they do not receive any pay and agreed at the outset of the lockout not to take jobs in other leagues, they had contact with league officials a few weeks ago when the league was hopeful of a Jan. 1 start to the regular season.

Although there hasn’t been contact since, it’s expected the officials would have a brief mini-camp, perhaps two days, as a kind of refresher to go over materials covered at the officials’ weeklong camp held in September before the lockout began.

The officials have been receiving weekly emails going over materials covered in September and they have also kept up with a regular weekly rules quiz during the lockout.
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On another front, senior vice president of hockey operations Mike Murphy and the hockey operations staff have been working with the information technology personnel at the NHL’s 30 rinks through the lockout to upgrade technology infrastructure. ... The technology upgrades will, among other things, allow better, quicker video access to the NHL’s so-called war room in Toronto of various feeds from the rinks. Had the season started on time in October, the upgrades would have been ongoing through the season. With the lockout, all upgrades should be in place for the start of a truncated season, a league source said Sunday. A memo to that effect recently went out to NHL arena technology staff.

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12-30-2012, 04:49 PM
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Lengthy conversations with several of the sharper player agents produce a consensus: Latest NHL offer has no deal-breakers for either side.

https://twitter.com/dshoalts/status/285497458828668928

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...o-meet-monday/
Plans to meet Monday; union believed to be working on counter offer


http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/l...ews+for+NHL%29
AP story on possible Monday meeting


http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...-as-suggested/
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“The last two days were informational,” Daly said. “No sense of whether we are as close as Don [Fehr] has suggested. I guess we will find out tomorrow.”
Owners not planning on attending Monday meeting.


http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL...slam!%20hockey
Garrioch on offer/meeting


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...Top+Stories%29
Allen on expected counter



http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...rs-100m-extra/
Lawless: extra $100m if players start 1/12 rather than 1/19.

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12-30-2012, 10:21 PM
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walsha 8:16pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® Jon Miller, president of programming for NBC Sports Network to the Boston Globe: “We never had any indication that this situation (1)
walsha 8:16pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
...with the NHL was going to last until January. It was always our understanding that this was going to be a tweak and a fix." (2) WOW!

(Full article behind pay wall)

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I found this Boston Globe article (12/28) online with the quote from Jon Miller:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/20...W4I/story.html

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Miller is candid in acknowledging that a big reason for the void in programming — the NHL lockout (which will have cost NBCSN 33 games by the end of December) — is a source of enormous aggravation.

“It’s been very challenging and very frustrating,’’ Miller said. “We never had any indication that this situation with the NHL was going to last until January. It was always our understanding that this was going to be a tweak and a fix.”

The CBS strategy

While NBC Sports Network is to some degree at the mercy of the NHL, its chief current counterpart as a relative cable-sports newcomer recognizes a chance to make a move in the coming months.

CBS holds the rights to Super Bowl XLVII Feb. 3, and in March will be the familiar home of the NCAA men’s basketball tournament. Adding a prolonged post-Super Bowl program on CBS Sports Network is only one way it will attempt to maximize its relationship with CBS.
Interesting article on the obstacles some of the newer cable sports network are encountering in trying to chip away at ESPN's audience. Regarding the NHL, the comment on NBCSN being at the mercy of the NHL I also find interesting along with the quote from Miller. Brings up the question of if the NHL is putting the business relationship with a national network at risk and, if so, to what degree?


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#NHL tells #NHLPA they can shave a week off timeline and add 3-4 games per club and $80-$100Mill in rev if deal is reached in next 4-5 days
https://twitter.com/andystrickland/s...75686998822912

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sn_nhl 6:08pm via dlvr.it NHL lockout: Mood more festive than usual after negotiating session http://t.co/OIiLr20g




aaronward_nhl 6:06pm via Twitter for iPhone
Expect tomorrow to have a few new players added to the NHLPA presence for the CBA meetings.Both sides still very quiet. #TSN




SportsnetSpec 5:10pm via TweetDeck
My provocative, must-read piece on all the movement made today in NYC: sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-loc…




ESPN_NHL 4:28pm via ESPN News
NHL considers NHLPA's counteroffer; sides to talk Tuesday es.pn/Wh28hO

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Steve Zipay ‏@stevezipay UPDATE: Formal bargaining on NHL CBA to resume at 5 p.m. in NYC





(So, they'll be missing the Rose Bowl, but could have caught the Winter Classic, if there was one )

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...location-fees/
NHLPA not seeking share of expansion/relocation fees (contrary to previous news).



http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=412591
NHL, NHLPA in smaller group meetings/conference calls until meeting later today

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http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2...d-at-7-p-m-et/
Small groups wrap up circa 5pm; formal talks expected at 7pm (ET)


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-uni...5727--nhl.html
AP story on talks

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KKurzCSN 5:13pm via Twitter for iPhone According to several reporters freezing in the New York cold, #NHL and #NHLPA will resume negotiating at 9 EST.


Real_ESPNLeBrun: Update: meeting now expected to start at 9 pm ET. League needed extra time to complete its response to NHLPA counter.

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Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun

Hearing NHL new counter offer it has worked on last 24 hrs is comprehensive; hence the delay this evening putting finishing touches on it

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The key issues for the players are the drop in the salary cap in 2013-14, the first full season since the lockout began, and what they will lose in salary through escrow. In their latest offer, the owners called for a pro-rated $70-million (all currency U.S.) cap for whatever length this season is, with the cap dropping to $60-million in 2013-14. Both sides have already agreed to a 50-50 share of league revenue and the $60-million cap is based on the $3.3-billion in revenue the NHL earned in 2011-12, albeit split 50-50 with the players.
However, the players want a gradual drop to a cap based on a 50-50 split while the owners want it in 2013-14. The players also want the owners to guarantee a minimum escrow hit on their pay cheques.
It is thought the players asked for a $67-million salary cap in 2013-14, which is based on their 57-per-cent share of the 2011-12 revenue, and for a cap on their escrow payments. The owners have thus far refused to consider a cap on escrow.
Sources with ties to the players have said if the owners are willing to accept a $67-million cap in 2013-14, the players would be willing to sign a new agreement for 10 years, which was demanded by the owners.
Another major issue was salary variance. The owners originally wanted no more than 5-per-cent variance in a player’s salary from year to year but raised that to 10 per cent in last week’s offer. Sources close to the players suggested this could be acceptable to them.

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EricOnSportsLaw 5:38pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® The players have authorized the #NHLPA to disclaim interest by tomorrow; however if NHLPA doesn't it can do it later - no real deadline


EricOnSportsLaw 5:39pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
NHLPA will only disclaim interest if it believes the sides are too far apart;Fehr has said they are close - so would be a surprise to see it


EricOnSportsLaw 5:41pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
A precursor to a disclaimer is union statements like "we are just too far apart" and "this just isn't going to get done"; haven't heard that

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stevezipay 6:09pm via Twitter for iPhone CBA discussions this afternoon were on revenue sharing and pensions. NHL presenting response to union counter at moment.

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Real_ESPNLeBrun 7:19pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® Bettman said they responded the NHLPA's way on some things they wanted in counter but also had to say no on other items the union wanted.


So, the question is are the "no's" too significant to derail negotiations?

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Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika To me, bottom line has been same for weeks: Too little left to gain for anyone, too much to lose for everyone. Got to get it done.


Nick Cotsonika ‏@cotsonika What is the difference now? There appears to be a deadline both sides respect as real. Neither side can afford to lose the full season.

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James Mirtle ‏@mirtle It's amazing how scarce the details leaking out of negotiations are right now. Shows how serious talks are - no one's saying much.



Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
Bettman confirmed NHL offered a comprehensive response to what it received from NHLPA on Monday. Sides plan to get back together tomorrow.



Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
A time for the meeting tomorrow still hasn't been determined and likely won't be until mid-to-late morning. Stay tuned.



Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
Asked if the gap is narrower now, without going into detail Bettman said the NHL's reponse today was threefold:



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1) Agreements to some of what the PA asked for; 2) Movement in the PA's direction in some areas; 3) No answers on some other issues.



Dan Rosen ‏@drosennhl
Bettman on how many outstanding issues there are: "We're not keeping score. We're trying to get an agreement done."

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KK wraps up Tuesday negotiations, including videos of Bettman and Fehr post meeting

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RealKyper 8:38pm via Twitter for BlackBerry® Although it hasn't been brought up in negotiations both #NHL #NHLPA have had internal discussions on 4 more teams qualifying for playoffs


JSportsnet 8:35pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
PA now gleaning NHL Counter offer. Will inform League early tomorrow of their intention to re-engage. Suspect a long day again in talks.


JSportsnet 8:29pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
NHL inches closer to a deal with PA.Still some major disagreements between the sides on core issues.Deal is still a work in progress.


jessespector 8:26pm via HootSuite
Today was the most important day of NHL negotiations yet. We're now 34 minutes to the most important day of NHL negotiations yet. Again.


SunGarrioch 8:23pm via Twitter for BlackBerry®
Okay so now we find out tomorrow if both sides are in the mood to make a deal when NHLPA responds. We know league is now.

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Arthur: both sides treating talks like defusing a bomb - carefully

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CP story on Tuesday's talks

http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey...des-meet-today
AP story on Tuesday's talks

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ious-1.4396631
Zipay blog (behind paywall)

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Ref Devorski would like to get back to work (filed for unemployment as NHLOA has no lockout fund)

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